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Title: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 12, 2012, 08:28:16 pm
I just realised we don't have a dedicated thread.

Anyhoo, here's a couple of DCUC leftovers that are now in Matty's "Infernal Crisis" sub.

http://www.actionfigurepics.com/2012/10/nycc-2012-additions-to-the-mattel-dc-universe-booth-instapics?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+actionfigurepics+%28ActionFigurePics.com%29


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 12, 2012, 09:30:44 pm
Can someone tell me who that is after Marvel Jr? Looks like Red Hood, but I don't recognize the costume. I like Marvel Jr; but I am glad that I didn't get The Watchmen sub :-\


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on October 12, 2012, 09:57:47 pm
I think it is Red Hood in a one-off costume, the head looks weird. From a design point the costume doesn't look too bad.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 13, 2012, 01:06:27 am
I think it is Red Hood in a one-off costume, the head looks weird. From a design point the costume doesn't look too bad.

Yup. He wore it a couple of times in the Batman & Robin comic when Morrison was writing it. That's all it takes to get an action figure these days apparently.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 13, 2012, 09:18:16 am
Well, I think I'll be selling mine off if this is being offered in the sub. I tell you, everytime I cut them some slack they disappoint. And I'm usually the voice of reason when it comes to most toy companies [gah]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 13, 2012, 10:35:14 am
OK, thanks to someone over at AFT I found out that isn't Red Hood, but Mr. Toxic (http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Toxic). Who apparently is going to be a villain in the new 52 Universe(If not already). I'm really hoping he looks closer to the picture below by the time it is mailed out to me. If not, Matty's going to have big brass balls to ask me to take a 3rd leap of faith with another sub [cursing]

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5qdzbK5uz1qjcq1co1_500.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 13, 2012, 04:44:20 pm
Finally!   [hi5]

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f265/fishmilkshake/News/DC-Club-Infinite-Earths-Huntress.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on October 13, 2012, 04:56:02 pm
Cool, also a really good custom base!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 13, 2012, 05:15:34 pm
Thank you for posting that picture of Huntress. Really can't wait to hear the complaints about this not being peoples choice of Huntress though ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 13, 2012, 05:46:17 pm
Thank you for posting that picture of Huntress. Really can't wait to hear the complaints about this not being peoples choice of Huntress though ::)

Oh don't worry it's started. Someone elsewhere has already noted that if it's the "Hush" Huntress her belt is wrong.  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on October 13, 2012, 07:35:27 pm
Thank you for posting that picture of Huntress. Really can't wait to hear the complaints about this not being peoples choice of Huntress though ::)

Oh don't worry it's started. Someone elsewhere has already noted that if it's the "Hush" Huntress her belt is wrong.  :D

Really? ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 13, 2012, 09:55:41 pm
Thank you for posting that picture of Huntress. Really can't wait to hear the complaints about this not being peoples choice of Huntress though ::)

Oh don't worry it's started. Someone elsewhere has already noted that if it's the "Hush" Huntress her belt is wrong.  :D

Really? ::)

More like :o


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on October 13, 2012, 10:02:48 pm
That bow looks awesome.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on October 13, 2012, 10:19:09 pm
First off - that's not Mr Toxic - it's Morrison's Red Hood from Batman & Robin as per the pic on the right:

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2009/11/theredhood.jpg)

Secondly - for CM Jr and Huntress I can tolerate a bone to MA Collectors.  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 14, 2012, 03:31:24 am
Well he's had at least two appearances in that costume and was in a comic by Grant Morrison so of course he deserves an action figure.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on October 14, 2012, 04:37:38 am
It's Over-Excited Dog-man!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on October 14, 2012, 05:32:16 am
Hehehehe, lipstick man!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 14, 2012, 11:34:53 am
First off - that's not Mr Toxic - it's Morrison's Red Hood from Batman & Robin as per the pic on the right:

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2009/11/theredhood.jpg)

Secondly - for CM Jr and Huntress I can tolerate a bone to MA Collectors.  [thumbs up]

Yeah, someone else pointed that out on AFT. Sorry about that, shit happens. Lets hope that the other person was correct that this "might" be part of the upcoming Batman line? Like you, I'm digging the other two, but not as forgiving if they waste another slot.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 14, 2012, 04:42:59 pm
Yeah, someone else pointed that out on AFT. Sorry about that, shit happens. Lets hope that the other person was correct that this "might" be part of the upcoming Batman line? Like you, I'm digging the other two, but not as forgiving if they waste another slot.

Red Hood or "Penis-Head" is confirmed as being in the 2013 sub.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on October 14, 2012, 04:57:30 pm
It's Over-Excited Dog-man!

That was my joke!  [cursing]  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 14, 2012, 05:43:27 pm
Yeah, someone else pointed that out on AFT. Sorry about that, shit happens. Lets hope that the other person was correct that this "might" be part of the upcoming Batman line? Like you, I'm digging the other two, but not as forgiving if they waste another slot.

Red Hood or "Penis-Head" is confirmed as being in the 2013 sub.

Like I said, another wasted slot for me. That's 3 figures I could give two shits about so far. I'm digging The Huntress and Jr. figures, but c'mon Matty, really [cuckoo] Matty is really going to need to up their game next year if they are going to continue with the sub's.

It's Over-Excited Dog-man!

That was my joke!  [cursing]  ;)

Guess you better be quicker on the punchline next time [beer]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on October 14, 2012, 05:57:40 pm
It's Over-Excited Dog-man!

That was my joke!  [cursing]  ;)

 [whistle]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on October 14, 2012, 07:30:30 pm


That was my joke!  [cursing]  ;)
[/quote]

Guess you better be quicker on the punchline next time [beer]
[/quote]

Listen to the next episode of the AFB Podcast and you'll hear where it came from. (I'll give you a hint - IT WAS ME!!!)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 14, 2012, 08:07:03 pm
 [popcorn] I definitely need to do that. You guys are on iTunes right? Maybe I'll start at the end and work myself back to the first one.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 14, 2012, 11:32:09 pm
Like I said, another wasted slot for me. That's 3 figures I could give two shits about so far. I'm digging The Huntress and Jr. figures, but c'mon Matty, really [cuckoo] Matty is really going to need to up their game next year if they are going to continue with the sub's.

I think this is why we're all suspicious that the sub figures are just from canceled DCUC waves and Batman: Legacy lines.
There's a lot of Bat villains and the assorted rainbow lanterns certainly give the theory some weight.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 17, 2012, 09:57:39 pm
I received my Poison Ivy and Elasti-Girl yesterday yesterday, but didn't open it until today. I know it looks like Ivy has a flesh tone foot(I double checked), but it is the green and not major issues with her. Unfortunately Elasti-Girl has some issues thanks to doing a porn shoot before getting delivered to my house. She's got some nice glue splotches on her face, boob and around her waist. So now I had to give DR a call and I'm scratching my head on what good they actually do since they have no real authority on what they can do. Apparently they want me to send her back before I receive the replacement figure. Now if it was anybody but them and Matty I might let it slide, but EG is already showing almost gone on the site and who knows when I'll hear from the expedite team via e-mail. This shouldn't be a big deal. "Yes sir, we'll send out your replacement figure. Along with a shipping label to send out the defective product.", BAM!! Done. I don't know, I'm definitely getting a "Shame on me" vibe lately when it comes to the sub.


(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul20.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul21.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul23.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul25.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul24.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 19, 2012, 04:27:23 pm
Ahhh....jeez. That's pretty poor Don. I think this will be a test of the return system for more than just you. As an international it's worry that something like this will happen to me.

Then again, I'm still waiting on Black Mask.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 20, 2012, 12:56:22 pm
I've heard that from the UK members too. They still haven't gotten theirs either. Here's my experience so far. Called and spoke to DR rep and was told that I needed to return item before they would issue a replacement. Ask to speak to supervisor, told them I didn't have a problem with returning once I received replacement. I told them this was especially important since they weren't guaranteeing that I'd actually getting the product. A little back and forth and they forwarded information to escalation dept. Before I hung up I did ask what was the point of having a customer service number if they can't actually help me directly. I received a e-mail from the ED and they are preparing my figure for shipping and in a separate e-mail a return label to return the defective figure. Honestly, I didn't expect to hear from anyone and it is basically a automated one. Once I receive the item I will return the defective one. Wish me luck that this one doesn't have an issue.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 20, 2012, 05:09:43 pm
I've heard that from the UK members too. They still haven't gotten theirs either. Here's my experience so far. Called and spoke to DR rep and was told that I needed to return item before they would issue a replacement. Ask to speak to supervisor, told them I didn't have a problem with returning once I received replacement. I told them this was especially important since they weren't guaranteeing that I'd actually getting the product. A little back and forth and they forwarded information to escalation dept. Before I hung up I did ask what was the point of having a customer service number if they can't actually help me directly. I received a e-mail from the ED and they are preparing my figure for shipping and in a separate e-mail a return label to return the defective figure. Honestly, I didn't expect to hear from anyone and it is basically a automated one. Once I receive the item I will return the defective one. Wish me luck that this one doesn't have an issue.

...at least you don't have to pay for return shipping either.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 23, 2012, 01:02:12 pm
I hear you on the shipping and agree. I think if they had ask me to send it on my dime I might have gone sideways. What do you guys do when this type of thing happens? It has to suck. Wish me luck. My replacement figure went out today.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on October 30, 2012, 02:06:34 pm
Received my replacement today. She's not perfect, but she's better than the first one. Overall pretty happy, as I think she's a great looking figure. Here's the pics of her. Debating on when I'm going to mail off the replacement. Weather has been a little funky and trying to set up a pick up is a bitch for some reason.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul28.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul27.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 30, 2012, 02:55:34 pm
Nice one Don!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on January 15, 2013, 03:20:25 am
Hey Guys,

     What's the holy grails of DCUC?



    Since I am new to it but getting them quickly not going to collect them all. An example would be like in the ML Dragon Man, F4 classics kang, F4 Classics Sue both version, F4 movie Annilhus (saw this at k-mart at one point said to myself WTF not in the movie so I passed on him).

Thanks





Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on January 15, 2013, 11:38:56 pm
Wonder Twins with an Authentic Gleek (apparantly there are bootleg blue monkeys out there  :-\ )
lol I thought it was Giganta ,I am starting completed from series 1 to 4 nearly 5 and 6 with the c&c


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 16, 2013, 02:05:55 am
Wonder Twins with an Authentic Gleek (apparantly there are bootleg blue monkeys out there  :-\ )
lol I thought it was Giganta ,I am starting completed from series 1 to 4 nearly 5 and 6 with the c&c

A few of the C&Cs are big bucks like Grundy.

I think that a lot of the unique figures from the 2-packs like Lightray are some of the expensive ones.

B'wanna Beast & Animal Man.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on January 16, 2013, 06:01:07 pm
Do you need an OMAC or a SP Steppenwolf?  Those two are still available in my neck of the woods.

I could take it in loose as I do not have much space but pm me for prices and does anyone have the left arm of kalibak I just need that to complete him?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on February 18, 2013, 04:08:20 am
Got my Planet X (or Zen en arrgh ) and he is amazing. straight out of the pages of RIP which i loved. Quite impressed with the amount of tooling thats gone into him (THERE is a BAT-RADIA on his belt!. Batmight is great and baseball bat is a nice add in. a must for any modern batman fan!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on February 18, 2013, 04:15:14 am
Got my Planet X (or Zen en arrgh ) and he is amazing. straight out of the pages of RIP which i loved. Quite impressed with the amount of tooling thats gone into him (THERE is a BAT-RADIA on his belt!. Batmight is great and baseball bat is a nice add in. a must for any modern batman fan!

Which one is this? Any pics? Sounds fun! Never got a Bat-Mite....


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on February 18, 2013, 06:21:06 am
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=planet+x+batman+figure&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&tbo=d&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=bhwiUc2tB4fylAXX9IGQBQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1111&bih=639#imgrc=_

No luck putting a pic up so heres a link instead!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on February 25, 2013, 02:37:27 am
I am a loose collector now so i take them out of the box as having no space. Does anyone think that Rocket Red comes apart quickly?

I feel like its a c&c my parts keep coming out.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Westy on February 25, 2013, 05:53:51 am
If you don't wear pants, there's nothing for your parts to fall out of though...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Polarboy on February 25, 2013, 06:21:28 am
I hate stupid pants


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: The_Donster on February 25, 2013, 02:01:58 pm
Received my Phantom Stranger the other day. Pretty happy with this figure at a glance. I can take pictures of him if you'd like. Kind of regretting not picking up Jitsu and Ram from the MOTU line, but the price is once again a factor for me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 01, 2013, 08:09:24 pm
I'm really hoping they do another run of Ram Man.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 02, 2013, 03:01:27 am
I'm really hoping they do another run of Ram Man.
Fish do you have a DC sub ? cause if he turns up he will be early access only, if not i'll happly try to get him for people here and ship him out at cost.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 02, 2013, 04:10:59 am
I'm really hoping they do another run of Ram Man.
Fish do you have a DC sub ? cause if he turns up he will be early access only, if not i'll happly try to get him for people here and ship him out at cost.

Yeah I do, thanks. I was gonna get up on the day of release but it equates to 3am here in Oz and I just couldn't be arsed.....and missed out.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 05, 2013, 04:31:21 pm
Got my Wally West flash today, got me thinking how close we are to a JLA by morrison team (and yet not close...

Superman Long haired / electric blue we got. Wally West flash we are getting got, Batman black with yellow symbol we got, basic wonder woman works fine (although new corset would work better i doubt matty would risk the release just for that) basic Martain manhunter works fine.

Needed
First appearance Kyle Rayner (considering they do every other possible lantern character this aint a stretch )

Peter David style Aquaman ( Aquaman is hot right now, plus its a different enough variant from the already over used orange look in this line )

Done! (for the original team)
expanded roster we have Plastic man and Orioin

Needed
Aztek ( obscure but great character, easy to make with simple buck
Zurial (obscure character once again but can be done with buck reuse for the most part)
Connor Hawke Green Arrow ( easy buck reuse plus green arrow in public eye right now)

Plus now that Super powers line up is nearly all made this could be the start of doing a Total Justice Wave!!!

Hope Matty nocitces this to


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on March 05, 2013, 06:28:36 pm
Can anyone link me where you can get the subscription for the figures?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 05, 2013, 06:43:51 pm
GABS1977 there is only a two week window in which you can sub to the DC subscription over a matty, its around the same time as san diego for the next year. you can still buy most of the figures though,

1) monthly figures are mostly released DOS at matty , minus the subscription exclusive figure (Metron, Mallah )

2) you can find them cheap from factory workers selling them on ebay,

hope that helps !


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 05, 2013, 07:42:37 pm
Got my Wally West flash today, got me thinking how close we are to a JLA by morrison team (and yet not close...

Superman Long haired / electric blue we got. Wally West flash we are getting got, Batman black with yellow symbol we got, basic wonder woman works fine (although new corset would work better i doubt matty would risk the release just for that) basic Martain manhunter works fine.

Needed
First appearance Kyle Rayner (considering they do every other possible lantern character this aint a stretch )

Peter David style Aquaman ( Aquaman is hot right now, plus its a different enough variant from the already over used orange look in this line )

Done! (for the original team)
expanded roster we have Plastic man and Orioin

Needed
Aztek ( obscure but great character, easy to make with simple buck
Zurial (obscure character once again but can be done with buck reuse for the most part)
Connor Hawke Green Arrow ( easy buck reuse plus green arrow in public eye right now)

Plus now that Super powers line up is nearly all made this could be the start of doing a Total Justice Wave!!!

Hope Matty nocitces this to

I'm not an 'era' guy so don't really need to build Morrison's JLA, I just want Zauriel and Aztek because they're cool characters.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 10, 2013, 05:26:05 am
Got my Wally West flash today, got me thinking how close we are to a JLA by morrison team (and yet not close...

Superman Long haired / electric blue we got. Wally West flash we are getting got, Batman black with yellow symbol we got, basic wonder woman works fine (although new corset would work better i doubt matty would risk the release just for that) basic Martain manhunter works fine.

Needed
First appearance Kyle Rayner (considering they do every other possible lantern character this aint a stretch )

Peter David style Aquaman ( Aquaman is hot right now, plus its a different enough variant from the already over used orange look in this line )

Done! (for the original team)
expanded roster we have Plastic man and Orioin

Needed
Aztek ( obscure but great character, easy to make with simple buck
Zurial (obscure character once again but can be done with buck reuse for the most part)
Connor Hawke Green Arrow ( easy buck reuse plus green arrow in public eye right now)

Plus now that Super powers line up is nearly all made this could be the start of doing a Total Justice Wave!!!

Hope Matty nocitces this to

I'm not an 'era' guy so don't really need to build Morrison's JLA, I just want Zauriel and Aztek because they're cool characters.

No love for connor hawke  :'(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 11, 2013, 04:33:57 am
Got New 52 hawkman and flash from melbourne shopping the other day

also got metron super cheap from a factory seller in china, i didn't really need the chair (even less for the extra $80 it would cost)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on March 11, 2013, 06:08:37 am
Got New 52 hawkman and flash from melbourne shopping the other day

also got metron super cheap from a factory seller in china, i didn't really need the chair (even less for the extra $80 it would cost)

or you can get the dc direct metron which I think has a better scuplt.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 11, 2013, 04:44:32 pm
Got New 52 hawkman and flash from melbourne shopping the other day

also got metron super cheap from a factory seller in china, i didn't really need the chair (even less for the extra $80 it would cost)

or you can get the dc direct metron which I think has a better scuplt.
Already got that one too :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 11, 2013, 05:36:12 pm
No love for connor hawke  :'(

Oh yeah, Connor is cool too  ;D

I'm just not an 'era' builder. I quite like the DCUC Zatanna so I have no need for a Satellite era Zatanna, etc.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 18, 2013, 12:48:36 am
So the Batman Unlimited line is getting a 6" beware the batman figure? think mattel can do other media? maybe a "Arrow " hood figure?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 18, 2013, 02:14:26 am
So the Batman Unlimited line is getting a 6" beware the batman figure? think mattel can do other media? maybe a "Arrow " hood figure?

We got Smallville figures, so they may not be Mattel, but someone might do them. Thought the lack of any kind of costumes (or lame ones that we do get) might be toy restrictive.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 19, 2013, 01:50:18 am
So the Batman Unlimited line is getting a 6" beware the batman figure? think mattel can do other media? maybe a "Arrow " hood figure?

We got Smallville figures, so they may not be Mattel, but someone might do them. Thought the lack of any kind of costumes (or lame ones that we do get) might be toy restrictive.
true but i wouldn't mind a Hood or Dead shot

Speaking of mixed media in this line I also just ordered an injustice Batman, one cause i am a sucker for batman variants. two cause while i am not a fan i get the feeling these might be better in hand. going to wait till i see bats before i commit to the rest


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 19, 2013, 05:09:27 pm
So the Batman Unlimited line is getting a 6" beware the batman figure? think mattel can do other media? maybe a "Arrow " hood figure?

We got Smallville figures, so they may not be Mattel, but someone might do them. Thought the lack of any kind of costumes (or lame ones that we do get) might be toy restrictive.
true but i wouldn't mind a Hood or Dead shot

Speaking of mixed media in this line I also just ordered an injustice Batman, one cause i am a sucker for batman variants. two cause while i am not a fan i get the feeling these might be better in hand. going to wait till i see bats before i commit to the rest

It's interesting the way people collect so differently. I have the original DCSH Batman in my DCUC display and have absolutely no further need for another Batman figure.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Old Git on March 19, 2013, 06:07:38 pm
So the Batman Unlimited line is getting a 6" beware the batman figure? think mattel can do other media? maybe a "Arrow " hood figure?

We got Smallville figures, so they may not be Mattel, but someone might do them. Thought the lack of any kind of costumes (or lame ones that we do get) might be toy restrictive.
true but i wouldn't mind a Hood or Dead shot

Speaking of mixed media in this line I also just ordered an injustice Batman, one cause i am a sucker for batman variants. two cause while i am not a fan i get the feeling these might be better in hand. going to wait till i see bats before i commit to the rest

It's interesting the way people collect so differently. I have the original DCSH Batman in my DCUC display and have absolutely no further need for another Batman figure.

Although not a great lover of the variant figures, If there is a significant costume change then I will consider purchasing a variant as such I have no "Film" Batman costumes only comic variations.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 22, 2013, 10:40:33 pm
Got myself a few figures today, knocking off some of my most wanted for the line for $20 at a comic store today

Deadshot (chemo wave)
Atom (Metallo WV)
and Captain Atom (Kingdom Come/WIldstorm varient Despero Wave) 

Also nearly completed Despero just need the leg that came with ares (though i brought him loose early on, hope i can find another )


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 22, 2013, 11:06:35 pm
Got myself a few figures today, knocking off some of my most wanted for the line for $20 at a comic store today

Deadshot (chemo wave)
Atom (Metallo WV)
and Captain Atom (Kingdom Come/WIldstorm varient Despero Wave) 

Also nearly completed Despero just need the leg that came with ares (though i brought him loose early on, hope i can find another )

Nice pick-up. Don't forget to start/update your want list

I must do an overhaul of my list too. I must be down to just 3-4 DCUC figs now.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on April 02, 2013, 04:27:48 am
Got my injustice batman today, its actually a nice figure, more in common with the movie masters, there is some really nice paint work on it, mix of metal greys and blues that are well shown in promo shots, articulation is weird, no bicept joint but two knee cuts, ...not horrible just different ...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 02, 2013, 04:58:16 am
Got my injustice batman today, its actually a nice figure, more in common with the movie masters, there is some really nice paint work on it, mix of metal greys and blues that are well shown in promo shots, articulation is weird, no bicept joint but two knee cuts, ...not horrible just different ...

Heh! I laughed at that last comment.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on April 02, 2013, 06:14:32 am
yeah felt weird to type, the batman is not bad figure to own (accept for you shake since he is a variant of a character i will just assume you have  ;) )

but i will still be catious going forward with more of these ...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: MikeS on April 04, 2013, 07:44:28 pm
Not sure if this is bad news for the Mattel subscriptions -

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2013/04/04/2013-subscriptions-re-openingavailable-from-415-430/

You can jump on board and get the rest of the year subscriptions later this month.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 04, 2013, 08:15:36 pm
yeah felt weird to type, the batman is not bad figure to own (accept for you shake since he is a variant of a character i will just assume you have  ;) )

but i will still be catious going forward with more of these ...

Not so much the variant....but that it's a reminder of the incomprehensible Batman stories that Morrison wrote.

Not sure if this is bad news for the Mattel subscriptions -

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2013/04/04/2013-subscriptions-re-openingavailable-from-415-430/

You can jump on board and get the rest of the year subscriptions later this month.

I'd be interested to see how many takers they get. The Black Freighter one is tempting...though I think I like the idea of having the figures more than I actually like Watchmen.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on April 06, 2013, 08:02:40 pm
Not sure if this is bad news for the Mattel subscriptions -

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2013/04/04/2013-subscriptions-re-openingavailable-from-415-430/

You can jump on board and get the rest of the year subscriptions later this month.
Oh i missed this when i posted in other thread.

1) its great news for anyone who didn't sub but now can/wants too

but

2) its bad news for "Day of sale" (DOS) customers, Toy guru came out today on the COuncil of the first ones he-man podcast and said the stock for these subs is coming out of the day of sale quoter. ie fast sell outs the more of these subs sold, the subs have a limit of the lowest produced item (i am guessing FFM for motu)

Big rumour (from a guy i know who is conected to a guy who knows the horsemen)* is that 2014 will basically be "Sub only", to me this move is cutting back on as much day of sale stock as possible so people are "inspired" to sub for 14.

Toyguru also stated in the same podcast the DCIC will have figures later this year with no DOS stock


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 07, 2013, 01:04:40 am
So now DC fans will absolutely have no choice but to subscribe to products sight unseen in order to get them?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on April 07, 2013, 03:46:17 am
So now DC fans will absolutely have no choice but to subscribe to products sight unseen in order to get them?

Sounds like a great idea for a business model*cough netossa cough cough f#*king cough*


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on April 08, 2013, 01:58:04 am
So now DC fans will absolutely have no choice but to subscribe to products sight unseen in order to get them?

Sounds like a great idea for a business model*cough netossa cough cough f#*king cough*

Shake: yes, or go through factory friends like i tend to with this line.

Niteowl: in all fairness Netossa was revealed before the sub went on sale for MOTU , but i know what your saying.

I Like it for the Motu line cause i am 99% down with everything in the line and there is only a limited stick of characters so you have a good idea of whats coming, dc is diffrerent and i imagine has more cherry pickers and could be infinte character possiblities and more like to be given characters you don't wont or don't know then a motu would,

to be honest the rumour of sub only i got from my mate is more in relation to Motu, dc has diffrent contracts and needs to meet different targets (its how the DC sub moves through because they know different people buy different DC figures day of sale, where as Motu its the same people buying figures just in different numbers depending on said figure, hence why dc can survive with lower sub but motu won't )


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 08, 2013, 05:00:18 am
I was fine with the first DC sub because I considered it a reasonable cost per figure. Now that the price has gone up (both per figure and shipping) I'm not as thrilled at the idea of Saint Walker, etc. SDCC '13 will be interesting.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on June 12, 2013, 06:39:48 am
when is 60's batmobile meant to hit?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on June 12, 2013, 10:56:33 pm
when is 60's batmobile meant to hit?

August was a date I have in my head but I could be wrong.....its happened once before.

Remember it's a TRU exclusive too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on June 13, 2013, 03:36:06 am
when is 60's batmobile meant to hit?

August was a date I have in my head but I could be wrong.....its happened once before.

Remember it's a TRU exclusive too.

Sweet i hope so, as i mentioned in other thread i am hitting up the states and don't trust aussie T,R,US . hoping i can grab some over there


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 06, 2013, 04:57:19 pm
Huh...

Quote
Early Access: Weds 8/14 at 8am PT thru Thurs 8/15 at 8am PT (subscribers only)
 •Products Available: Ghostbusters™ Ecto Goggles, MOTUC Rattlor™, MOTUC Man-E-Faces®, DCU Uncle Sam with Doll Man, DCU Platinum and Tin

Obviously they produced the figure before they knew how many sub take-ups they'd have  ;)

I've wondered about Matty's reluctance to go "back to press" on some items they know will sell. Ram Man and the Legion set come to mind.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on August 06, 2013, 09:18:58 pm
OK, so if this was actually the line-up I'm not interested in anyone besides Ice, Doc Magnus and possibly Weather Wizard... Happy for the guys that are putting together a JSA display though.

I'm still holding up for a Ray action figure... But that is not going to happen any time soon I think...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 06, 2013, 10:08:59 pm
Nicely done Hyp.

Does Doc Magnus fulfill both the suit and the civilian?

If Doc were not a choice, I think the civilian will be Comm Gordon using the Constantine buck, and the suit will be President Luthor.

Weather Wizard, Terry and Rick are great additions.

Aqualad, Mon-El and Miss Martian are fine.

Vice can fuck off.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Polarboy on August 07, 2013, 03:45:26 am

Vice can fuck off.


Well it looks like he has a face designed specifically for that very purpose.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 07, 2013, 04:52:05 am

Vice can fuck off.


Well it looks like he has a face designed specifically for that very purpose.

Guarantee me a Doomsady unleashed and I'm in.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 11, 2013, 08:43:43 pm
Fine. I'm in.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 17, 2013, 03:53:11 am
http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2013/08/16/2014-club-infinite-earths-dcu-damian-wayne-is-coming/


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Polarboy on August 18, 2013, 05:47:56 am
I wonder what logistics had to be worked out to include a figure that was already tooled and ready to go  [think]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 20, 2013, 04:37:41 pm
I wonder what logistics had to be worked out to include a figure that was already tooled and ready to go  [think]

All moot now as it looks like it's officially dead.

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2013/08/20/update-final-count-for-2014-subscriptions-and-ecto-1-pre-order/



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on August 20, 2013, 08:38:43 pm
Bummer for some.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 20, 2013, 11:35:09 pm
I kind of wish it was a clean kill. Instead, there's stuff like this:

Quote
Every super hero knows you can’t win ‘em all and we’re sorry to say we did not reach our goal for the DCU 2014 Club Infinite Earths subscription. We also did not reach our goal for the Ecto-1 pre-order. We’d like to say a HUGE thank you to all the fans for waging such a good, strong fight. It will take us a while to figure out where we can go from here. It may be possible to release a few DCU figures quarterly, or to release 12 figures at higher non-subscription prices. Or, we may have to say a final goodbye to this line at the end of this year. Without the sub, we just don’t know what’s possible at this point. Over the next few months we’ll be meeting internally and with all of our partners at Warner Bros., DC Comics, and Sony, and we’ll let you know as soon as we can what our options are.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 21, 2013, 02:35:19 am
I kind of wish it was a clean kill. Instead, there's stuff like this:

Quote
Every super hero knows you can’t win ‘em all and we’re sorry to say we did not reach our goal for the DCU 2014 Club Infinite Earths subscription. We also did not reach our goal for the Ecto-1 pre-order. We’d like to say a HUGE thank you to all the fans for waging such a good, strong fight. It will take us a while to figure out where we can go from here. It may be possible to release a few DCU figures quarterly, or to release 12 figures at higher non-subscription prices. Or, we may have to say a final goodbye to this line at the end of this year. Without the sub, we just don’t know what’s possible at this point. Over the next few months we’ll be meeting internally and with all of our partners at Warner Bros., DC Comics, and Sony, and we’ll let you know as soon as we can what our options are.

If anyone is throwing a hissy fit over uncompleted teams and the like and selling their collections in a huff, let me know as there's still a couple of figs I need.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 21, 2013, 03:54:39 am
I kind of wish it was a clean kill. Instead, there's stuff like this:

Quote
Every super hero knows you can’t win ‘em all and we’re sorry to say we did not reach our goal for the DCU 2014 Club Infinite Earths subscription. We also did not reach our goal for the Ecto-1 pre-order. We’d like to say a HUGE thank you to all the fans for waging such a good, strong fight. It will take us a while to figure out where we can go from here. It may be possible to release a few DCU figures quarterly, or to release 12 figures at higher non-subscription prices. Or, we may have to say a final goodbye to this line at the end of this year. Without the sub, we just don’t know what’s possible at this point. Over the next few months we’ll be meeting internally and with all of our partners at Warner Bros., DC Comics, and Sony, and we’ll let you know as soon as we can what our options are.

If anyone is throwing a hissy fit over uncompleted teams and the like and selling their collections in a huff, let me know as there's still a couple of figs I need.

Who are you looking for?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on August 21, 2013, 07:12:25 am
Got the DC unlimited vampire batman at mid town comics today


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 21, 2013, 06:42:23 pm
Who are you looking for?

Just the hassle figures like Lobo, Gleek, Non-armoured Lex and Steel.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 21, 2013, 06:57:44 pm
Who are you looking for?

Just the hassle figures like Lobo, Gleek, Non-armoured Lex and Steel.

No doubles of those, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Interesting. I suppose Lobo was a hassle for me, but my bigger hassles were Black cowled DCSH Batman, nekkid Cheetah and the Lightray/Orion 2 pack.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 21, 2013, 10:59:10 pm
Lobo is around, but for an unnecessarily oversized figure I don't feel the need to pay a lot for him. More the completist in me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 21, 2013, 11:13:19 pm
Lobo is around, but for an unnecessarily oversized figure I don't feel the need to pay a lot for him. More the completist in me.

He was at a local Comic Shop for a long while, but those guys also gouge people. So I felt accomplished when I got him for $20 less on ebay.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on August 21, 2013, 11:14:04 pm
the figure Gold for me...the rest above got Steel for $4 and Lobo for $30...from a friend that does not want them anymore.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 22, 2013, 12:11:05 pm
FYI for all those who did sub:
Quote
Club Infinite Earths customers, look for refunds early next week. Ecto-1 customers, no refunds as cards were only pre-auth, not charged.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 22, 2013, 07:39:21 pm
FYI for all those who did sub:
Quote
Club Infinite Earths customers, look for refunds early next week. Ecto-1 customers, no refunds as cards were only pre-auth, not charged.

Bummer.

Makes me wonder how Domsday would go just sold on the Matty website?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Polarboy on August 23, 2013, 12:22:53 am
Kind of a shame they are gone but I didn't sub so it's my fault really.

So would you like to know what the complete 2014 sub would have been or would you rather not know?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 23, 2013, 12:57:55 am
Well since the sub is dead, I'd rather they be up front about shoe horning in BatZarro
and Shizzy-Fo-Nizzle-Zam from dead retail lines.

To be honest, I wish they could swap out Ice and Hookquaman for Batzarro and Ra's in 2013.

Ra's looks ugly and I could always grab the Trinity version.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 23, 2013, 04:50:14 am
To be honest, I wish they could swap out Ice and Hookquaman for Batzarro and Ra's in 2013.

Ra's looks ugly and I could always grab the Trinity version.

I still want Ice, but my DCD version is fine. Same with the Hush Ra's.

So would you like to know what the complete 2014 sub would have been or would you rather not know?

I'm happy to know what could have been.

Means I'll stay away from them when doing customs in case they do come out.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on September 01, 2013, 08:57:08 pm
FYI I got an official refund email for the whole amount today. Not sure if it's reflected in my statement yet though.

It looks like the people who got 400 different "authorization failed" emails are getting as many refunds though. I got one of those and a single refund amount.

Others have been saying they are getting the refund in "installments." Pretty stupid.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 01, 2013, 10:27:11 pm
FYI I got an official refund email for the whole amount today. Not sure if it's reflected in my statement yet though.

It looks like the people who got 400 different "authorization failed" emails are getting as many refunds though. I got one of those and a single refund amount.

Others have been saying they are getting the refund in "installments." Pretty stupid.

Yah, I got two as well. Not sure if that means I'll get $35 or $70?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on September 04, 2013, 03:58:10 pm
I got 6 emails for varying amounts. Came to $45 even in the end. Weird.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on September 06, 2013, 06:47:34 am
anyone see DC collectibles is stepping up to fill the void left by DCUC with articulated figures

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=21020


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 06, 2013, 07:03:04 am
Too bad it's the wrong scale.  ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: rodkeith on September 06, 2013, 09:42:09 am
It's the right scale if you're starting a whole new DC collection! O0


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 07, 2013, 06:29:47 pm
anyone see DC collectibles is stepping up to fill the void left by DCUC with articulated figures

I thought exactly the same thing when I saw those. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 08, 2013, 05:51:41 am
$25 a pop.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 10, 2013, 02:02:00 am
The price is fine with me, I just hate that they're about an inch too big.

And I'd rather not know what we are missing in not getting the sub. KNowing the few we know already sucks.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on September 10, 2013, 02:02:51 pm
http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/9231079938

FUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK YYYYYYOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! 

Its classic Matty folks.  ALL our fault.  Not enough people collect DC.  Not people don't want any more suit bucks and boring sculpts of the blandest possible characters.  Its that not enough people collect DC. 

Sean is a little bitch, just like TG......who's answer to everything  is "check out our awesome Total Heroes line".   ::)  What a fucking joke they've become. 


http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/3541022048

Great example.  Avoid the topic, deny that Hydron gets fully tooled while we couldn't get a DC figure that had more than 3 colors on it, and plug the bullshit of Total Heroes.  Great job!   [moon]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 10, 2013, 02:22:28 pm
I love and hate DC equally.  [banghead]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 10, 2013, 05:00:16 pm
I wonder if there will be Total Heroes rainbow lanterns and super powers figures?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 10, 2013, 08:08:11 pm
http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/9231079938

FUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK YYYYYYOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! 

Its classic Matty folks.  ALL our fault.  Not enough people collect DC.  Not people don't want any more suit bucks and boring sculpts of the blandest possible characters.  Its that not enough people collect DC. 

Sean is a little bitch, just like TG......who's answer to everything  is "check out our awesome Total Heroes line".   ::)  What a fucking joke they've become. 


http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/3541022048

Great example.  Avoid the topic, deny that Hydron gets fully tooled while we couldn't get a DC figure that had more than 3 colors on it, and plug the bullshit of Total Heroes.  Great job!   [moon]

I know you're not super familiar with this but that's called "reality". It's not super hard to understand that the line underperformed and got axed. To think that a line that was dedicated to covering the entire DCU as comprehensively as possible would come close to comparing to Star Wars levels of potential is crazy.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on September 10, 2013, 08:13:43 pm
Good words Gad - and also, we have to face facts that there isn't the same pool of collectors as there are for some of these larger brands.

Comparing MOTUC or Star Wars to DCUC and expecting the same level of tooling, etc, is ignoring facts. Plain and simple.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 10, 2013, 08:43:15 pm
I disagree that there are more MotU fans than there are DCU fans.  They are simply more fanatical, devoted and somewhat more unified than we DC are.  They will spend money on characters they don't want to get the ones they do.  There are also several other venues for DC merch.  MotU basically has one option.

I'm fairly sure MotUC would have failed at big box retail.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 10, 2013, 08:45:38 pm
Yeah, there's a finite amount of figures that can be made with those brands. People are ravenous for more. They'll buy the band. They'll buy an alien that had no lines and 20 seconds of screen time. They'll buy three versions of Boba Fett who was actually a relatively small character. But imagine if Star Wars did Boba Fetts grand daughter from the books. Imagine if they had done Talon Karde (comparable to say, Vigilante) while still waiting on Ben Kenobi (Martian Manhunter).

Whereas in the DCUC line, it's totally different. There are people who love Batman but barely know who Green Lantern is. Let alone the four or five earth Green Lanterns and the Golden Age original.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on September 10, 2013, 09:02:25 pm
I disagree that there are more MotU fans than there are DCU fans.  They are simply more fanatical, devoted and somewhat more unified than we DC are.  They will spend money on characters they don't want to get the ones they do.  There are also several other venues for DC merch.  MotU basically has one option.

I'm fairly sure MotUC would have failed at big box retail.

The distinction I made is "collectors", not "fans". To work, DCUC needed all-in collectors and there aren't the same number of people who will buy "anything".


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 10, 2013, 09:17:30 pm
An important distinction.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on September 10, 2013, 09:20:37 pm
Do you guys think Marvel Legends collectors are less divided then DCUC collectors?

Or is that an unfair comparison as the line is technically still at retail in various forms?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on September 10, 2013, 09:26:14 pm
When Hasbro made the late 2012 and releases of 2013.I went to Dcuc then Motuc, its dead to me and I am only after a couple of new releases.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 10, 2013, 09:29:03 pm
Do you guys think Marvel Legends collectors are less divided then DCUC collectors?

It's possible.  Marvel didn't really take off until the 60's whereas DC fans were clamoring for variations back to the 30's.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on September 10, 2013, 09:31:44 pm
http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/9231079938

FUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK YYYYYYOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! 

Its classic Matty folks.  ALL our fault.  Not enough people collect DC.  Not people don't want any more suit bucks and boring sculpts of the blandest possible characters.  Its that not enough people collect DC. 

Sean is a little bitch, just like TG......who's answer to everything  is "check out our awesome Total Heroes line".   ::)  What a fucking joke they've become. 


http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/3541022048

Great example.  Avoid the topic, deny that Hydron gets fully tooled while we couldn't get a DC figure that had more than 3 colors on it, and plug the bullshit of Total Heroes.  Great job!   [moon]

I know you're not super familiar with this but that's called "reality". It's not super hard to understand that the line underperformed and got axed. To think that a line that was dedicated to covering the entire DCU as comprehensively as possible would come close to comparing to Star Wars levels of potential is crazy.

That's not the point.  Your telling me that the line died because collectors just decided to stop buying them for no reason?  They started to give us lower quality product at higher price.  THATS THE POINT!  It is not the fans fault, its Mattys.  That too, is reality.  


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on September 10, 2013, 09:39:02 pm
I think at least in terms of price point and quality the two lines are equitable. This is why I would groan everytime Toyguru compared the $22-$25 price point of the "Infernal Crisis" figures as being about the same as retail. Sure the Hasbro Star Wars line has a SRP of $19.99, but I can get a Batman Unlimited SRP for $15.99 and a Marvel Legends for SRP of $14.99. And then thinking about accessories, BAF parts, etc you are paying a dollar less for MORE content at retail. $7 to $10 more at Club prices. I think it's more than a mere all-in customer that Mattel needed.

Matty's perfect customer for DCUC!
(http://preparingyourfamily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Hear-No-Evil-See-No-Evil-Speak-No-Evil.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 10, 2013, 09:48:12 pm
His tantrums are irregular.  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 10, 2013, 10:01:24 pm
Do you guys think Marvel Legends collectors are less divided then DCUC collectors?

Or is that an unfair comparison as the line is technically still at retail in various forms?

Remember that Marvel Legends were cancelled once before. The strength of its' return was twofold, the first was that fans bitched they wanted them back and then had to put up or shut up, the second is leading with two superb B.A.F that almost everybody wanted. There were enough figs in those waves to get a collector like me to buy them all, and enough IronSpiderCapVerines to make it work at retail.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 11, 2013, 02:36:14 am
http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/9231079938

FUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK YYYYYYOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! 

Its classic Matty folks.  ALL our fault.  Not enough people collect DC.  Not people don't want any more suit bucks and boring sculpts of the blandest possible characters.  Its that not enough people collect DC. 

Sean is a little bitch, just like TG......who's answer to everything  is "check out our awesome Total Heroes line".   ::)  What a fucking joke they've become. 


http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/3541022048

Great example.  Avoid the topic, deny that Hydron gets fully tooled while we couldn't get a DC figure that had more than 3 colors on it, and plug the bullshit of Total Heroes.  Great job!   [moon]

I know you're not super familiar with this but that's called "reality". It's not super hard to understand that the line underperformed and got axed. To think that a line that was dedicated to covering the entire DCU as comprehensively as possible would come close to comparing to Star Wars levels of potential is crazy.

That's not the point.  Your telling me that the line died because collectors just decided to stop buying them for no reason?  They started to give us lower quality product at higher price.  THATS THE POINT!  It is not the fans fault, its Mattys.  That too, is reality.  

I have noticed no quality difference since the earliest of DCUC figures.. DCSH had great original sculpts, and a few DCUC figures were in that catagory like Ares and Demon hit that level but for the most part we saw consistency.

I do agree that price was probably the main factor in the line dying, but that's not "Mattel's fault". They are a business with a profit margin. As forwhy we got higher prices? Well, that's sort of been the case with everything. Star Wars figures were, what? Six bucks back when DCUC hit? And then you'd see them on sale for much lower. They're almost double that now.

And Marvel's small scale sells for what DCSH figures went for.

Chinese labor and petroleum based material has all gotten more expensive.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on September 11, 2013, 04:08:04 am
Got my 66 batman case 1 today. Some great stuff , so hope this line has a future ...

Also got some of the last dcuc figs
Beware the batman and injustice green lantern

Reduced articulation but enjoyable figures none the less


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 11, 2013, 05:18:42 am
I do agree that price was probably the main factor in the line dying, but that's not "Mattel's fault". They are a business with a profit margin. As forwhy we got higher prices? Well, that's sort of been the case with everything. Star Wars figures were, what? Six bucks back when DCUC hit? And then you'd see them on sale for much lower. They're almost double that now.

I'm curious just how many collectors consider price to be the main issue? For me, I wasn't thrilled at the costs rising, but I would have happily paid if the character selection was there.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on September 11, 2013, 05:47:38 am
I do agree that price was probably the main factor in the line dying, but that's not "Mattel's fault". They are a business with a profit margin. As forwhy we got higher prices? Well, that's sort of been the case with everything. Star Wars figures were, what? Six bucks back when DCUC hit? And then you'd see them on sale for much lower. They're almost double that now.

I'm curious just how many collectors consider price to be the main issue? For me, I wasn't thrilled at the costs rising, but I would have happily paid if the character selection was there.

Character selection is the problem. But it's a tricky one to solve . Everyone has a different opinion on who should be made and despite what us fans think they can't just make anyone , the amount of sculpting and which version play a factor. I know people say we should poll which characters get made but that is also flawed , figure budgeting comes in to play , this character needs less sculpting so this one can has a little more and so on.

With motu folks are less picky as they have a rougher idea of who is coming and what version . DC is so big and so generational it's impossible to please everyone


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 11, 2013, 05:51:52 am
I'm curious just how many collectors consider price to be the main issue? For me, I wasn't thrilled at the costs rising, but I would have happily paid if the character selection was there.

Character selection is the problem. But it's a tricky one to solve . Everyone has a different opinion on who should be made and despite what us fans think they can't just make anyone , the amount of sculpting and which version play a factor. I know people say we should poll which characters get made but that is also flawed , figure budgeting comes in to play , this character needs less sculpting so this one can has a little more and so on.

With motu folks are less picky as they have a rougher idea of who is coming and what version . DC is so big and so generational it's impossible to please everyone

This is why I think a poll was necessary. Mattel didn't need to list every character, but they could have put together a pretty good list of 60 or so characters that required basic tooling to assess where fan wants lie.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 11, 2013, 06:27:23 am
Yep.  Captain Atom could be repainted to Johnny Quick.  No real need for a new head either.  Lots of stuff like that.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 11, 2013, 09:38:19 am
FMS, I think price made the selection more critical. People would have had less problem buying figures that may not have been perfect (Rocket Red) or that they did not necessarily want (Batzarro) or that were not the exact version that made the most sense (Red Hood) had they been cheaper. But at 30+ bucks a figure with shipping, it's tough to justify that cost even with great figures of characters you love for a lot of people.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on September 11, 2013, 11:39:33 am
I think it is possible that Mattel will revisit 6-inch DC figures eventually.

I wouldn't mind seeing something called an Essentials line to fill in the gaps with iconic representations of characters. As much as I love my blue camo Aquaman, he is definitely not an essential. Neither is Batzarro, Morrison's Red Hood or Johns' Rocket Red -- or any of the Justice League dressed up as Green Lanterns.

I have a feeling DC creators (especially Johns) pushed that direction -- and we paid the price.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 11, 2013, 04:24:48 pm
I got the 66 Batmobile today. I am not going to lie. For all the crap I have given Mattel about the Super Powers minority guys they did in wave 18, this thing makes me want the Super Friends Batmobile worse than pretty much any toy out there right now. I'd happily pay them a hundred bucks for a re-release of Batman and Robin with cloth capes and a car as well done as this 66 one.

Sadly, I really feel like the Batman figure turned out horrible for the 66 line, so I won't be getting B&R to go with the car.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 11, 2013, 05:10:23 pm
I think it is possible that Mattel will revisit 6-inch DC figures eventually.

I wouldn't mind seeing something called an Essentials line to fill in the gaps with iconic representations of characters.

I hope you are right about that.  [innocent]

And personally, I think it was both character selection and rising prices that put the axe to the line.  Like you guys have said...there are simply too many characters to figure out who gets made.  Total no-win situation.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 11, 2013, 05:11:16 pm
I got the 66 Batmobile today. I am not going to lie. For all the crap I have given Mattel about the Super Powers minority guys they did in wave 18, this thing makes me want the Super Friends Batmobile worse than pretty much any toy out there right now. I'd happily pay them a hundred bucks for a re-release of Batman and Robin with cloth capes and a car as well done as this 66 one.

Sadly, I really feel like the Batman figure turned out horrible for the 66 line, so I won't be getting B&R to go with the car.

That's great to hear (the car not the figs). Still waiting to see if it turns up locally.

FMS, I think price made the selection more critical. People would have had less problem buying figures that may not have been perfect (Rocket Red) or that they did not necessarily want (Batzarro) or that were not the exact version that made the most sense (Red Hood) had they been cheaper. But at 30+ bucks a figure with shipping, it's tough to justify that cost even with great figures of characters you love for a lot of people.

I would have been fine with cheap turd figures or paying more for figures I really want like well done Rogues. But not the combination of expensive turds.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 11, 2013, 05:15:07 pm
... MotU fans ...are simply more fanatical, devoted and somewhat more unified than we DC are.  They will spend money on characters they don't want to get the ones they do.

 [exactly]

You have MOTU fans that buy multiple versions of every single character, if you can believe what people say on the ORG.  Many of those guys are total fanatics/completionists that will not even sell figures that they HATE because they want a complete collection.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 11, 2013, 06:41:07 pm
I would recommend going here http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=20500956&csm=476672511&csc=2908242&csa=478757601&csu=2908244 and having them email you when it's back in stock. That's what I did last time it sold out.

It was going to be 13 bucks for shipping or free with a purchase over 80 so I added a Star Wars Black figure effectively meaning I got R2D2 for 7 bucks. (This is how you logicafy the R2D2  to your significant other. Or house plant. Because apparently some of you here are super close to your plants.)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on September 11, 2013, 09:49:08 pm
Overall, for how many years have we had DCSH/DCUC/etc, and how many figures were made? And what beats it?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 11, 2013, 10:02:20 pm
Overall, for how many years have we had DCSH/DCUC/etc, and how many figures were made? And what beats it?

2006-2013
200+
Marvel Legends


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 11, 2013, 10:32:09 pm
You think Marvel Legends has made more individual characters? know they have put shit tons of figures out, but half of them seem like they were Iron Man. Lol


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 11, 2013, 10:48:31 pm
You think Marvel Legends has made more individual characters? know they have put shit tons of figures out, but half of them seem like they were Iron Man. Lol

I wasn't sure what the conditions were?  ;D

But for me, Marvel Legends is my line simply because of my greater affinity for the Marvel Universe.

As for numbers, if you include multiple Iron Mans, spin off series like the FF (Ronan) series, recent Iron Man legends and boxed sets, etc, then I have roughly 280+ figs.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on September 11, 2013, 10:59:03 pm
There's no 2014 sub because the 2013 sub was like paying a scalper to get front row tickets for INXS and then finding out you're seeing Air Supply instead. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 12, 2013, 12:23:42 am
You think Marvel Legends has made more individual characters? know they have put shit tons of figures out, but half of them seem like they were Iron Man. Lol

I wasn't sure what the conditions were?  ;D

But for me, Marvel Legends is my line simply because of my greater affinity for the Marvel Universe.

As for numbers, if you include multiple Iron Mans, spin off series like the FF (Ronan) series, recent Iron Man legends and boxed sets, etc, then I have roughly 280+ figs.

It sounded like I was arguing the point when I was truley asking out of ignorance. I never followed Marvel or their figures too much so I was sincerely asking. The Iron Man comment was an add on because it seems like that one character has been half the toy isle for five years.

DCUC did do a great job of making a lot of individual characters. Sure, we got plenty of Batmen and a few Supermen, and an odd amount of Hal Jordan's for a guy who's costume has bareley changed since introduction, but it doesn't seem as prevalent as Captain America, Wolverine, and Ironman redos.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on September 12, 2013, 12:49:40 am
But, you have to incorporate that Marvel made a lot of movies, so eventually they have spin-off lines and so more figures. DC we got only Superman,GL, Batman + others like Watchmen live action movies.I am going include He-man as DCUC as the comics are DC.

Successful spin-off line Arkham Asylum ...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 12, 2013, 08:19:11 pm
Let's face it guys: DCUC had a fantastic run and we got a ton of great, mostly consistent figures.  But MARVEL fans have it much, much better than us.  Ten years from now, HASBRO ( or whoever ) will still be pumping out figures.  It doesn't mean many of them will be Classic, or that any of us would even want them, but between movie deals and being backed by Disney, MARVEL figures aren't disappearing anytime soon.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 12, 2013, 08:37:42 pm
But MARVEL fans have it much, much better than us. 

Well that's it isn't it? Marvel fans will get more figures while DC fans will get nothing  :(

DC will be lurking and hoping for any kind of scraps, while Marvel fans await truly classic characters like Batroc, Blizzard and Radioactive Man.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 12, 2013, 09:01:05 pm
The nice thing about Marvel as far as I can tell is that the various movies, classic, and modern are all the same scale. Whereas Mattel made movie stuff smaller and the Arkham stuff larger.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 12, 2013, 09:07:52 pm
They would have been so much smarter to work Young Justice characters into the DCUC in comic book styling while having a Young Justice line in the smaller scale. Speedy, Blaqualad, Tee shirt Superboy, Miss Martian, Impulse, and so many others would have been popular amongst many fans and they may have gotten past the half dozen mark.

Oh yeah, and I would have happily bought Major Force, Banshee, Brimstone, a bulkier Superman, and Classic Black Lightning in DCUC style.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on September 13, 2013, 12:12:12 pm
Putting aside the usual downfalls of Marvel Legends, articulation translating into fugly sculpts, infamously fugly females, figures can't stand/fall like dominos,
I never see any DCUC threads/folks constantly clamoring for an updated version of character XYZ. If Marvel Legends is so great, shouldn't they be happy with the 400+ figures they have?  Not trying to start crap, as I collect both lines now...but it seems more common for Marvel Legends fans to ask for newer versions of characters b/c they either feel the Toy Biz version doesn't hold up or they have some glaring issue with the Hasbro one.

I know you guys mention the scale of the Wreckers on the podcast, and there are seriously people out there asking for re-do's (like that'll ever happen).

For me personally now, DCUC figures have had way less QC issues in terms of breakage, paint and hopeless warping. Yes, most have the same buck, but I never hear the DCUC guys saying, "Man so and so's buck/figure is awful can we get a new Quicksilver, Captain America, Skarr, Hulk, Spider-Man, Daredevil, etc" To be fair I've left out infamous ones like Scarlett Witch, Toad or Magneto. And to be clear, this isn't people asking for a new costume, they seriously want an upgrade on an existing costumed figure. Usually with the "hot" buck of the week. "I want Daredevil on the new Panther buck!" "I want Quicksilver on the Archangel buck!"

DCUC figures can stand up properly. DCUC guys don't fall over and knock over every other figure on the shelf. You can adjust their poses while they are standing (I now realize this is a huge thing with me) versus having to pick them up and snap whatever POA is refusing to budge because of snap-ticulation.

The main benefit from the increased articulation that I have come to appreciate is the neck-tilting and double knee joints. While I still think they make the aesthetic of the figure unappealing, they help with flying poses that can certainly look better than any DCUC figure. Of course, I see folks yelling about the aesthetic of the round pegs on the arms and legs of DCUC which has never bothered me, so to each their own of course. I ended up being a completest for DCUC, but I really can't see myself ever buying Stevie Wonder Daredevil (this is what I call the maskless Face-Off version).   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 13, 2013, 03:17:51 pm
I know you guys mention the scale of the Wreckers on the podcast, and there are seriously people out there asking for re-do's (like that'll ever happen).

I've really no dog in this fight as I don't collect MLs and have bought very few over the years.  But I was a huge BA Marvel fan.  This whole thing with the Wrecking Crew scale bugs the shit out of me.  This version is based on their appearance in Iron Fist #15 in the late 70's.  It's an absolutely acceptable version and would be my preferred version if I collected this line.  [cursing]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on September 13, 2013, 11:26:40 pm
I find my Marvel Legends collection to be very unsatisfying as a whole.  It's the same problem I had with DCD figures.  Some are gems, some are "meh", and some are crap.  I can't even put a Fantastic Four together that I'm truly happy with, much less the Avengers or the X-Men.

I am enjoying the RoML though.  Even though there's some crossover, I now look at it as a separate line for building the contemporary Marvel Universe.  Although the scale is all over the place, the overall quality is pretty consistent, so they make for a much more cohesive display.

I had the same issue with DCD that I do with ML.  DCUC is what I'm looking for in a comic accurate line.  When I put a DCUC display together of the Satellite Era JLA, they actually look like they came from the same line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on September 14, 2013, 06:44:42 pm
I'm with Xavion. Truth be told, my want list includes more Marvel than DC. Legion evens it out a bit -- unless you include Marvel's version of the Legion -- the Imperial Guard -- and I actually would buy that entire team -- if they were down 70s style.

But I've largely been disappointed with Marvel Legends from way. Often when they do a 2nd or 3rd tier character, they fuck it up -- choosing to invest all of the time and energy into the umpteenth version of an A-list character. An example is the beatiful blue-flamed Ghost Rider and  modern Thor -- and the crappy versions of Klaw and Constrictor.

Diversity aint' that great. All of these years later, and I still can't assemble the full X-Men team that appeared in G.S. X-Men #1.

Marvel Legends is a line with tremendous potential, and every once in a while they actually produced a top-notch figure or two. But there has been more disappointment than satisfaction in the line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 14, 2013, 07:27:04 pm
Thing is, Marvel isn't really broken up by eras.  Most of it flows from FF #1 to last weeks releases.  Although Marvel does have a sliding timeline and a couple of glitchess (No more Mutants/One more Day), it is a more unified, organic feel.  DC is defined by it's eras.  Or errors.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: rodkeith on September 14, 2013, 08:10:00 pm
Overall, for how many years have we had DCSH/DCUC/etc, and how many figures were made? And what beats it?


Actually, the number is closer to 340-360ish, if you add in everything-- DCSH, DCUC, DCIE, Young Justice, Public Enemies, Green Lantern Classics, DC & Bats Unlimited, Batman Legacy, and the Watchmen sub. Even if you don't count the 2 toon-related lines (and who isn't displaying the PE Brimstone, hmm?) the total is still well over 300.

The reason for the variance in the potential number is how closely you want to count repaints (e.g. Alex Ross-style All-Star shiny Flash vs. original wave 7 release) or pack-in characters (such as Doll Man, Brain, Bat-Mite). Pretty impressive no matter how you slice it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: rodkeith on September 14, 2013, 08:13:21 pm
Also, you know what else is a DCUC figure, though hasn't been acknowledged is such? Last year's DKR Movie Masters Catwoman. She's a standard DCUC buck.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 14, 2013, 08:52:10 pm
All the Movie Masters figures should have been in scale with DCUC.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 15, 2013, 02:42:19 am
I'm getting Batroc. That is all.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 15, 2013, 07:46:01 pm
So I messed up when I moved and put an extra zero in my zip code when updating my address with Matty.  I had to go through a bunch of rigmarole, multiple phone calls, emails, and website updates with Matty/DR to get my stuff last month.  This month?  They updated my billing address, but not my shipping address.  Sigh.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 15, 2013, 10:51:10 pm
Sounds about right. I'm kind of glad they're dumb. I'm thinking I'll cancel my card so Batzarro isn't the final figure I get from them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 16, 2013, 05:53:38 am
Sounds about right. I'm kind of glad they're dumb. I'm thinking I'll cancel my card so Batzarro isn't the final figure I get from them.

 :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 16, 2013, 08:12:22 pm
And now I've had 9 hours of "Payment Authorization Failed" when trying to get the non-subscriber item.  I tried multiple cards, multiple addresses, multiple computers, multiple browsers, multiple messages to Matty and still nothing.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 16, 2013, 08:24:43 pm
And now I've had 9 hours of "Payment Authorization Failed" when trying to get the non-subscriber item.  I tried multiple cards, multiple addresses, multiple computers, multiple browsers, multiple messages to Matty and still nothing.

It seems that several people had a lot of trouble today with that same issue. I got lucky and placed and order for Huntress and Batros with no problems.  [runaway]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 16, 2013, 09:34:04 pm
I'm glad you did!  I know I've been a wet blanket about this, I just needed to vent to folks that would understand.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 16, 2013, 09:41:08 pm
Wow, whilst I was bitching I got an email from Matty.  They gave me directions on how to complete the order (because I clearly hadn't filled everything out correctly), but the prompt they said I would get didn't happen.  Imagine that.  I do have a status of REQUISITION_HOLD_FRAUD_ERROR though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on September 16, 2013, 09:56:52 pm
Oh dear.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 16, 2013, 10:53:07 pm
Wow, whilst I was bitching I got an email from Matty.  They gave me directions on how to complete the order (because I clearly hadn't filled everything out correctly), but the prompt they said I would get didn't happen.  Imagine that.  I do have a status of REQUISITION_HOLD_FRAUD_ERROR though.

 [gah]

As of now, there are 27 Huntress and 2104 Batros figures remaining in stock.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 16, 2013, 10:58:59 pm
Wow, whilst I was bitching I got an email from Matty.  They gave me directions on how to complete the order (because I clearly hadn't filled everything out correctly), but the prompt they said I would get didn't happen.  Imagine that.  I do have a status of REQUISITION_HOLD_FRAUD_ERROR though.

 [gah]

As of now, there are 27 Huntress and 2104 Batros figures remaining in stock.


That emoticon is spectacular.

Also, how do you know this?  Magic?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 16, 2013, 11:01:51 pm
Wow, whilst I was bitching I got an email from Matty.  They gave me directions on how to complete the order (because I clearly hadn't filled everything out correctly), but the prompt they said I would get didn't happen.  Imagine that.  I do have a status of REQUISITION_HOLD_FRAUD_ERROR though.


 [gah]

As of now, there are 27 Huntress and 2104 Batros figures remaining in stock.


That emoticon is spectacular.

Also, how do you know this?  Magic?

It's the cart trick. From JediJones @ Fwoosh:

Quote
Step 1: Empty your cart.
Step 2: Go to the specific item page.
Step 3: Add a quantity of it to your cart.
Step 4: If your cart stays empty, you tried to order more than they have in stock. If your cart adjusts down to the max (10 in this case), they have in stock the amount you tried to order.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 16, 2013, 11:07:26 pm
That's voodoo.  Also, several more email exchanges with Matty later where they gave me a bunch of ways of fulfilling my original order, I was able to put in a whole new one.  That only took 12 hours!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 16, 2013, 11:12:13 pm
That's voodoo.  Also, several more email exchanges with Matty later where they gave me a bunch of ways of fulfilling my original order, I was able to put in a whole new one.  That only took 12 hours!

Glad you got one through before they sold out!  [yess]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 16, 2013, 11:50:00 pm
Thanks for the pep talk throughout Jase.   [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on September 17, 2013, 12:13:28 pm
Diversity aint' that great. All of these years later, and I still can't assemble the full X-Men team that appeared in G.S. X-Men #1.

This here is what trips me up when talking to most collectors.  Are the characters actually missing, or have they not been done in the costumes you want?

A little of both.

For characters, I'm missing Polaris and Thunderbird. For versions, I need classic Sunfire (seems more likely as that version is appearing in Uncanny Avengers) and FA Storm. Wouldn't say no to a GOOD Banshee to replace the earlier suckass version.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 17, 2013, 01:39:01 pm
That is pretty crazy, KC.  I didn't realize that.

That's why I love the 90s GIANT SIZED X-MEN box set, but of course, that's no help when you want the figs in 6" scale.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on September 17, 2013, 06:03:34 pm
Got Huntress today.  I give it a D.  It just looks cheap.  I hate all of you who voted for the stupid fucking Question back when we would have gotten a GOOD Huntress!   [runaway]

And no post is complete without...... [moon]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on September 17, 2013, 06:06:32 pm
One more thing.  I think its hilarious that Huntress sold out first this month.  Just goes to show that their is PLENTY of customers for mediocre figures of good DC characters. 

and  [moon]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 17, 2013, 07:12:45 pm
One more thing.  I think its hilarious that Huntress sold out first this month.  Just goes to show that their is PLENTY of customers for mediocre figures of good DC characters. 

and  [moon]

Selling out first means nothing unless you know what the production numbers are.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 18, 2013, 04:20:55 am
What's bad about her? (I don't get mine for about 2 weeks depending on the ocean currents)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on September 18, 2013, 08:14:20 am
One more thing.  I think its hilarious that Huntress sold out first this month.  Just goes to show that their is PLENTY of customers for mediocre figures of good DC characters. 

and  [moon]

Selling out first means nothing unless you know what the production numbers are.


Sure, but you're a damn fool if you think the numbers differ from figure to figure.  Example, you explain to me how it makes any sense whatsoever for Matty to make less Two Bads.  Putting him up for day of sale is one thing, but to make LESS of a desirable character they are sure to sell?  Uh huh....I buy that.   ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on September 18, 2013, 08:16:18 am
What's bad about her? (I don't get mine for about 2 weeks depending on the ocean currents)

She just looks cheap.  The plastic looks cheap, her blank facial expression is cheap, she has no neck, her crossbow is pathetic.  It cheap, plain and simple.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 18, 2013, 09:47:25 am
One more thing.  I think its hilarious that Huntress sold out first this month.  Just goes to show that their is PLENTY of customers for mediocre figures of good DC characters. 

and  [moon]

Selling out first means nothing unless you know what the production numbers are.


Sure, but you're a damn fool if you think the numbers differ from figure to figure.  Example, you explain to me how it makes any sense whatsoever for Matty to make less Two Bads.  Putting him up for day of sale is one thing, but to make LESS of a desirable character they are sure to sell?  Uh huh....I buy that.   ::)

Of course the production numbers differ from figure to figure.  Common sense man.  [cuckoo]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 18, 2013, 09:49:01 am
What's bad about her? (I don't get mine for about 2 weeks depending on the ocean currents)

She just looks cheap.  The plastic looks cheap, her blank facial expression is cheap, she has no neck, her crossbow is pathetic.  It cheap, plain and simple.

Just curious - do you piss in your own Cheerios every morning?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 18, 2013, 04:51:15 pm
Nice write-up Hyp.

I've got the Hush version in my display at the moment and since she's not prominantly visible on the shelves I'll have the luxury of choosing which I prefer.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on September 18, 2013, 08:15:22 pm
Got Huntress today.  I give it a D.  It just looks cheap.  I hate all of you who voted for the stupid fucking Question back when we would have gotten a GOOD Huntress!   [runaway]


If you can, I'd recommend hunting down the Hush Huntress from DCD. What the figure lacks in articulation, it makes up for in sculpt and over all aesthetics. I see they are releasing a Hush 3-pack with Nightwing, Ivy and anothe figure. So maybe they'll release another 3-pack that includes Huntress.

Oh, and DCD's Ivy was nicer than DCUC's. Shame they couldn't do something original and produced a regular skinned Ivy.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on September 18, 2013, 09:16:19 pm
I wish I could do that.  The DCD scale is just a little to off for me to display the regular sized figs with DCUC.  I currently have a DCD Despero, Arkham Croc, and Arkham Freeze displayed with the, and it looks alright. 

You're right though....those 2 figs are pretty awesome.


Quote
Of course the production numbers differ from figure to figure.  Common sense man.  [cuckoo]

Can't tell if you're being serious. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on September 18, 2013, 09:49:35 pm
the only real issue i have with the huntress figure is i don't like the eyes


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on September 20, 2013, 12:35:42 pm
I wish I could do that.  The DCD scale is just a little to off for me to display the regular sized figs with DCUC.  I currently have a DCD Despero, Arkham Croc, and Arkham Freeze displayed with the, and it looks alright. 


I don't think the Hush figures are off-scale as much as the waves that followed. Maybe someone has done a comparison between the DCUC and DCD versions online?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 22, 2013, 12:20:47 pm
eBay pics of Ocean Master:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290979455052

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/jasetraber/OM1_zps70407c2d.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/jasetraber/OM2_zpsa52b2fe2.jpg)



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 22, 2013, 04:41:27 pm
That cape is sensational  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 22, 2013, 06:08:09 pm
That cape is sensational  :D

If the top of that cape was folded down, it would be just like a 70's collar!  O0


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on September 24, 2013, 09:08:08 pm
It's a cool looking figure, but I just can't wrap myself around that color scheme.  I'm usually pretty flexible on classic vs modern when modern has become just as iconic, but I don't think I've ever seen him without the purple color scheme (like the DCD version).


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on September 24, 2013, 09:34:12 pm
Hmmm..... That cape gives me an idea. I might need 2 now.  [thumbs up]

Also, I received Huntress today.  I'm as disappointed with her headsculpt as I was with Cap Jr. Very soft for a Horsemen sculpt. I think they might've been going for a smirk on Jr, but it was a miss. Huntress makes it 2 straight imho.  :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 24, 2013, 11:07:19 pm
I think that I'm going to just display Ocean Master battling with the camo blue Aquaman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 25, 2013, 03:36:35 pm
Not bad at all, but if I ever buy OCEAN MASTER, I will probably buy the HISTORY OF THE DC UNIVERSE version.

Who would have ever thought there would be two OCEAN MASTERS??  [yess]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 25, 2013, 03:43:50 pm
Not bad at all, but if I ever buy OCEAN MASTER, I will probably buy the HISTORY OF THE DC UNIVERSE version.

Who would have ever thought there would be two OCEAN MASTERS??  [yess]

True, but isn't the HOTDCU one gigantic comparatively in scale?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 25, 2013, 03:54:53 pm
True, but isn't the HOTDCU one gigantic comparatively in scale?

You are correct, but I do like that particular buck.  For the most part, I guess I've given up on scale, and am just happy if a particular character actually gets made, period.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 28, 2013, 11:24:52 pm
I would be happy to sell you mine if you're in the US. Wish that one was this scale but I'll take the proper size over the slightly better version.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on September 29, 2013, 01:54:33 am
Ocean Master has had several costumes with slight differences and I'm perfectly happy with this one. It is a weird color but I like how the purple stands out.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on September 30, 2013, 09:44:37 am
True, but isn't the HOTDCU one gigantic comparatively in scale?

You are correct, but I do like that particular buck.  For the most part, I guess I've given up on scale, and am just happy if a particular character actually gets made, period.

That's me as well -- mostly because I don't display figures -- and if I even do, it won't be a massive display. Despite the bulk, I like the DCD Ocean Master -- and much prefer that color scheme over the shitty version Mattel selected.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 01, 2013, 02:18:11 pm
Maybe we'll hear something new next week?

Quote
On the MattyCollector forums, and responding to a question about how far along the Ice figure was/is, Toy Guru provided some interesting info. It seems that a few DC Universe figures may (or may not) be released next year after all. Here’s what he said:

Xavion2004 Asked:
I know you don’t have any information to share at the moment in terms of possible 2014 releases, but can you at least tell us whether or not Ice made it through the tooling stage?

Toy Guru Responded:
This is what we are reviewing. How many figures are far enough along to make some type of 2014 program. Do we have one figure and just make it a Sdcc item? Four items and we can do quarterly releases? Six skus and we can do bi-monthly?

This is what we are working on and will make an announcement at NYCC at our fan panel!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 01, 2013, 02:29:03 pm
So tired of him talking out his ass.  There are supposedly several completed prototypes scattered between the 4H studios and Mattel HQ.  That of course doesn't mean they've been tooled, but that could be the next step.  Offer the stuff online like you did with JLU you tools.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on October 01, 2013, 07:25:30 pm
Carded/boxed hook Aquaman:


http://youtu.be/kqz3Yug36VA (http://youtu.be/kqz3Yug36VA)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on October 01, 2013, 11:52:04 pm
I'm gonna ask about the blank DCUC buck idea again.  I wonder if it's been floating around the Mattel offices at all of late?


I still can't get them over putting out a Blank Buck for Total Heroes as a Fan's Choice Possibility.....


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 02, 2013, 02:24:50 am
I'm gonna ask about the blank DCUC buck idea again.  I wonder if it's been floating around the Mattel offices at all of late?


I still can't get them over putting out a Blank Buck for Total Heroes as a Fan's Choice Possibility.....

It's a totally different market and was fan demanded by a core group of eight year old collectors discussing their DC action figure collections around the sandpit.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 02, 2013, 02:10:56 pm
Factory versions of Aquaman are showing up on ebay.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mattle-DC-universe-DCU-Signature-Collection-AQUAMAN-Figure-PROTOTYPE-free-shippi-/00/s/NTAwWDM3NQ==/z/NRMAAOxyFjNSSjfq/$T2eC16R,!%294FIZ+!4gc6BSSjfptMFg~~60_12.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mattle-DC-universe-DCU-Signature-Collection-AQUAMAN-Figure-PROTOTYPE-free-shippi-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/stAAAOxyAs9STDrb/$T2eC16RHJHkFFlob+K-RBSTDr,%29f,Q~~60_57.JPG)

I'm not sure if I should be hunting a listing down or expecting a proper release announcement at NY.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 02, 2013, 04:50:53 pm
Hmmm.....


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 02, 2013, 05:54:18 pm
What did you search? I need one of these now.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 02, 2013, 06:18:05 pm
Our old buddy JSay just wet himself.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on October 03, 2013, 07:32:41 am
Oh boy.

As pleased as I am to see Aquaman - the OCD part of me REALLY wants to see Ice.

The DCD Aquaman would have served me in this one's absence.

But still - it gives me hope.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 03, 2013, 04:20:42 pm
I'm actualy thinking of getting one of these just to mod him into a CSA Sea-King.

Good thinking.  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 05, 2013, 12:49:49 am
Are you guys still finding it? I am not seeing any.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 05, 2013, 01:14:03 am
Somebody on Fwoosh said they bought the "last one" for $105. But I imagine there could be more factory escapees.

Also, I'm hoping maybe they'll will say something at NYCC next weekend.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 05, 2013, 01:25:01 am
Somebody on Fwoosh said they bought the "last one" for $105. But I imagine there could be more factory escapees.

Also, I'm hoping maybe they'll will say something at NYCC next weekend.

$105??

Wonder if he subbed?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 05, 2013, 02:08:21 am
Somebody on Fwoosh said they bought the "last one" for $105. But I imagine there could be more factory escapees.

Also, I'm hoping maybe they'll will say something at NYCC next weekend.

$105??

Wonder if he subbed?

Pretty sure he did. He admitted it was foolish, but I guess he really wanted to be sure he got it.

To complete my DCUC collection I spent some "foolish" money on nekkid Cheetah and some of the early DCSH like "no teeth" Batman, Two-Face and Catwoman.

Only thing I got a little sick from spending on was the Soul of Chokogin Raideen. I got the GX-41S from Mandrake Japan. For the size of the item (not all the extra crap it comes with, just the robot) it made me feel a little silly.

Though it feels like all the Marvel Legends stuff I buy have been "foolish" prices compare to what the SRP was 5 to 8 years ago when they were actually released. But compared to $20 Toys R Us Legends prices, some of my buys have been better than or about the same as.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on October 05, 2013, 08:22:42 pm
$105??

Wonder if he subbed?

I believe this was rodkeith, actually.  He had multiple subs.  :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 05, 2013, 08:24:10 pm
He's a keenster.

I think the most I've paid for a DCUC figure is about $70 for Brimstone as a part of an eight figure buy.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 06, 2013, 01:38:27 am
Holy shit. That's some serious dough.

I'll just keep hoping Ice, Aquaman, and Robin make it some way, somehow.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: AlwaysOptimistic on October 06, 2013, 02:11:37 am
At Power-Con, in the 4H panel, they seemed fairly confident that the '14 figs already shown will make it out.  Not that the 4H are the final word or anything, but I came away feeling relatively hopeful. 

Which was especially needed after hearing one idiot ask them if they were "relieved" that DCIE was cancelled.  It was like a ten sentence question where in the middle it seemed like maybe he was figuring out that none of them were liking the question and 2-3 of the Horsemen were actively hostile, but then somehow he wound up back at "relieved" by the end of it.  Good god. 

Other info that may be of interest.  I spoke briefly with Cornboy after the panel and he said several times that Legionnares were on the Sub schedule but fell out.  And that Dawnstar wouldn't be too tough to make.  I asked about a lot of new tooling and he said something like "not really".  So that was nice to hear, at least if they ever make more of these. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 06, 2013, 03:24:48 am
That's pretty cool. Thanks for the info  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 06, 2013, 11:20:17 pm
Since I'm new here, I'll say it again...

I would have gladly paid Watchmen sub prices for a Legion sub. Frankly, with the morts I needed to buy in the main sub, my "per figure" price would probably have been cheaper.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on October 06, 2013, 11:24:48 pm
Since I'm new here, I'll say it again...

I would have gladly paid Watchmen sub prices for a Legion sub. Frankly, with the morts I needed to buy in the main sub, my "per figure" price would probably have been cheaper.

Amen, amen, amen.....


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 06, 2013, 11:34:20 pm
You guys are making me sad. No Mon-El.  [violin]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 06, 2013, 11:46:30 pm
Nice one Zeek.

I agree on the Legion sub, but then again, it was never about the cost for me. Give me unique, well done figures I can add to my universe and I'm sold.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: AlwaysOptimistic on October 07, 2013, 01:53:17 am
That's pretty cool. Thanks for the info  [thumbs up]

You're welcome, glad I could be of help. 

Meanwhile, I did mention to Cornboy that I wish Mattel had tried a Legion sub in the same way as Motuc, but was very clear I knew he had no hand in that decision and then left after a quick thanks.  I'm sure they get bothered or asked questions by tons of people and didn't want to give a bad impression.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 07, 2013, 10:14:46 pm
He's a keenster.

I think the most I've paid for a DCUC figure is about $70 for Brimstone as a part of an eight figure buy.

Rod is definitely keen.

As for how much we've spent on figs, I joined the mess just before wave 10 hit. I spent almost $60 on ebay for a Robotman, as I live in Canada and thought the odds were slim of me driving over the border and finding one. Within 4 weeks of my doing that, every single mess member had one purchased for them by someone. It's good to be back on a board again, as experiences like that made collecting more fun.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 07, 2013, 10:16:41 pm
Nice one Zeek.

I agree on the Legion sub, but then again, it was never about the cost for me. Give me unique, well done figures I can add to my universe and I'm sold.

Me neither, but we're the lucky ones. Hell I even subbed for 2014, even though I didn't want any of the 4 figs shown. (At least not badly. They were all valid, just not my cup of tea)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 08, 2013, 05:13:43 am
Nice one Zeek.

I agree on the Legion sub, but then again, it was never about the cost for me. Give me unique, well done figures I can add to my universe and I'm sold.

Me neither, but we're the lucky ones. Hell I even subbed for 2014, even though I didn't want any of the 4 figs shown. (At least not badly. They were all valid, just not my cup of tea)

Yeah, I was in for Ice.....but it was really Doomsday that I wanted  :'(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on October 08, 2013, 07:13:03 am
Other info that may be of interest.  I spoke briefly with Cornboy after the panel and he said several times that Legionnares were on the Sub schedule but fell out.  And that Dawnstar wouldn't be too tough to make.  I asked about a lot of new tooling and he said something like "not really".  So that was nice to hear, at least if they ever make more of these. 

And Legion fans get left out again.  Just showing that sub wasn't going to keep being retreads and Bat-crap would have helped.

So did Legion fall out of the 2014 plan as well? What a bunch of shit!  That makes me think that a female Legionnaire was probably among the "quite a few, actually" female figures we were supposed to get this year -- instead of the two they ended up doing instead.

The sub made a lot of promises, but rarely delivered.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on October 08, 2013, 07:17:03 pm
If any of you are wanting the Batman Unlimited Vampire Batman, Amazon has him in stock now (Prime eligible), for $15.99:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BIAC2RU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


ETA: They also have Beware The Batman for $15.99.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 08, 2013, 07:33:30 pm
Thanks Jase. Grabbed both on my phone just now.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 08, 2013, 07:35:17 pm
I've had several opportunities to leave him on the pegs. Taken each one.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on October 08, 2013, 07:35:40 pm
Thanks Jase. Grabbed both on my phone just now.

 [beer]

I bought Vamp Bats, but decided against Beware Bats. I've only seen one episode of the toon and while I enjoyed it, the figure just isn't for me (reminds me of the JLU figures). Glad you were able to order them!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on October 09, 2013, 08:50:17 am
Some of you bought that loser ass cartoony Batman they put out?  Seriously?  You spend really money and everything?   [thumbs down]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 09, 2013, 09:29:22 pm
I feel like it's a lie that Marvel figures cost $20-$22.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 11, 2013, 10:40:16 am
End of the road.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 11, 2013, 11:39:09 am
Did they say what Doomsday would cost? $40? $45?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 11, 2013, 12:15:53 pm
Well other than the random scramble of day-of, it's pretty good news all things considered.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on October 11, 2013, 12:54:16 pm
I'm listening to the AFI interview. It appears that the figures will cost more than they would have -- had the entire year's worth been made. But it will probably vary by figure. Aquaman required a lot of tooling -- and being that he's a main character, I'd guess he'll be able to swing the additional cost. If they try to sale Ice and more than $30, may take a long time for it to sell through.

It's an interesting interview. At the end of the day, the cost of plastic is what really killed the sub. Okay, there were other issues that contributed to its failure -- but cost is the core problem.

On the other hand, I'm not sure where all of the fans were calling for Blackest Night figures. I guess there were some, but it just goes to show that classic trumps flavor of the day. There is a reason things are called classic -- it means they remain popular or, at least, familiar as years go by. Being that the BN wave failed -- only a year or so after the comic series ended shows why they were naive to do that wave.

Inteview gets cut off as they discuss the Legion set. Yes, it sold out quickly. It did make money, but it was the investment of time that made them not do another. Seems a shame -- especially as the packaging is done, and I do think there were enough popular characters left in which they could do another set of 12 figures. But, guess I'll have to be grateful for what I did get. Would I have purchased the set -- knowing that I would still be missing at least half of the team and nearly all of the females? Yeah. Actually, that's one reason I bitched so much when the set was announced. You just don't know what the future holds -- and it's better to make a more balanced offer early on than to make promises on which you will never deliver (something matty did quite often with DCUC).


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 11, 2013, 06:50:07 pm
So....there's not enough interest in the figures to carry a sub......so they shit on us by releasing one as an SDCC exclusive....thus ruling out 90% of the potential buying market?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 11, 2013, 06:57:35 pm
That's allways been kind of a hallmark of the various DC lines.  DCC or Mattel.  They piss on us and then tell us it's a warm summer rain.  Even when things were going well.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 11, 2013, 07:00:30 pm
Look at all that extra tooled stuff

http://toynewsi.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=2013_NYCC%2FMattel%2FDC&pic=IMG_5876.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0&sl=21207


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 11, 2013, 07:09:27 pm
The Doomsday card says its $35.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on October 11, 2013, 07:09:58 pm
All whinging aside, those Total Heroes are really fun looking packages. Kids should love those, but if they don't hit regular retail shelves they can get fucked.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on October 11, 2013, 07:14:40 pm
Wow to all the extra tooling!
It actually looks like a fun kids line, if they make it to Oz I will pick up some for my 6 yr old son.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 11, 2013, 09:11:31 pm
Wow to all the extra tooling!
It actually looks like a fun kids line, if they make it to Oz I will pick up some for my 6 yr old son.

Supporting the enemy line to benefit your son over your fellow collectors in mourning. I'm so disappointed in you.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 11, 2013, 09:19:07 pm

It's an interesting interview. At the end of the day, the cost of plastic is what really killed the sub. Okay, there were other issues that contributed to its failure -- but cost is the core problem.



Obviously it contributed, but it was more than that.

I am lucky enough to be able to afford a sub with out having to think twice. However, I was so tempted not to, because of character selection, shipping costs, digital river, and more.

I just got huntress today, one month after it was shipped. For that privilege, I paid $13.75 on a 25 dollar figure.

LAst month I bought a $250 pair of headphones and it cost me $9 to have it here in two days.

Plastic was a factor, but plastic cost didn't stop me from subbing. Lots of other reasons almost kept me away.

That said, I did dub to keep it going. But it was done with a sense of resentment. Who wants to feel that while enjoying their hobby?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 11, 2013, 09:24:40 pm

LAst month I bought a $250 pair of headphones and it cost me $9 to have it here in two days.


Eggszakery.

How is it that I buy hardcovers from thebookdepository and they ship for free? Digital River shipping is also just so freakin' slow.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: AlwaysOptimistic on October 12, 2013, 01:47:11 am
I'm excited for Aquaman, Superboy and Ice.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on October 12, 2013, 09:01:04 am
Aquaman is the only "must" for me. I wonder if Doomsday will be available for early access sales for the MOTU sub-holders?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 12, 2013, 11:25:47 am
They a
Aquaman is the only "must" for me. I wonder if Doomsday will be available for early access sales for the MOTU sub-holders?

They're all available early access.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on October 12, 2013, 07:43:31 pm
It might have been better to release them all at once, given how much they charge for shipping. For those that want all 4, you're going to be paying shipping 4 times over now. That's $56 just in shipping alone for international customers.

This is Matty we're talking about.   [whistle]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on October 12, 2013, 09:31:44 pm
That Superboy is laughable.  It looks NOTHING like him. I guess all the effort went into Hyrdon that day.   ::)

Anyway, I'm officially done. No good Doomsday, no Maniac!  They've insulted me as a DC fan for long enough, and that containments suit bullshit is the last I will suffer.  They can keep their last 4 scraps.  They don't finish my collection, so I don't need them.   

Have fun selling that Total Loss line you Matty assholes.....for both waves of it before retail cancels your product AGAIN!. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: AlwaysOptimistic on October 12, 2013, 11:35:23 pm
What I hate is the distribution direct-to-scalpers system that Matty has. 

I have a job.

I have a job that doesn't allow me to stop what I'm doing and camp out on a computer for 1-3 hours to get a toy.

Yeah, I can get someone to grab one for me, but that's adding a layer of shipping that's a pain in the wallet.

Yeah, back in 2009, when I had a different job and the White Screen of Death was going full force, it was impossible for me to be at the computer at 9:00 AM PST.  Some companies like to have meetings then. 

But TG doesn't care and there's nothing we can do.  At least now many items last for awhile, when they do have DOS. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on October 12, 2013, 11:53:36 pm
And Legion fans get left out again.  Just showing that sub wasn't going to keep being retreads and Bat-crap would have helped.

Funny because I remember some people on another board saying how they would buy any DCUC to support the line ... but when the Legion 12-pack came out they didn't buy it. Not that it mattered since it sold out anyway, I'm sure with the help of non-collector Legion fans who came out to buy it.

And after that I heard all too often that Legion fans had nothing to complain about because we got a whole 12-pack!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 13, 2013, 12:55:48 am
Found an exclusive Target imaginext Hal and B'dg set. However, it's really just the Ch'p figure from the playset. Wanted this for a while.

I thought it would be a little poseable, but it's just a PVC basically.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/DSC_0575.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/DSC_0575.jpg.html)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/DSC_0576-1.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/DSC_0576-1.jpg.html)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/DSC_0577-1.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/DSC_0577-1.jpg.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 13, 2013, 03:17:17 am
I'm surprised that they don't think they could make Unleashed Doomsday work as a MattyCollector sale item? There must be a lot of people who wanted that figure that couldn't commit to the sub.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on October 13, 2013, 05:15:16 am
Which means those of us who don't give a fuck for MOTU will not be allowed to buy them from Matty.
there was still plenty SDCC items left for DOS this year after early access for subbers, only items to sell out early access have been MOTU items


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 13, 2013, 09:08:34 am
Damien will be the hardest to get. Ice and Hook Hand Aquaman won't be a problem, each appealing to niche groups of fans. Tough to guess on Superboy. Not that great of a figure and being outdated as a costume may disinterest some.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on October 13, 2013, 12:45:50 pm
I don't think Matty will offer Aquaman, Ice, Superboy, and Robin during early access. Doomsday however, will be.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 13, 2013, 12:54:51 pm
I am not sure how paint apps work for these figures, but is it likely that there is some sort of pre-set deal for the S shield? I am always annoyed with how small it is on Superman, and it's kind of small here. Looks almost exactly the same size as Supermans.

As for the head, I am wanting to see it in person to judge it. It almost looks like the ears are too big, but it's not horrible.

The big thing that I am wondering about is how big it will be. A lot of people are saying it will be too big, but I wouldn't be angry if that was the case. I could display it with my giant ass Red Robin with this book in the back ground.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6800000/Red-Robin-and-Superboy-tim-drake-6840609-1031-1566.jpg)

No chance of getting a real Teen Titans group together so I would be happy with that.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on October 13, 2013, 11:53:28 pm
I don't think Matty will offer Aquaman, Ice, Superboy, and Robin during early access. Doomsday however, will be.

any none sub items go up for early access  any items thats part of a sub does not. since these ain't part of a sub anymore id say the will be going up on early access 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on October 14, 2013, 12:28:45 pm

Plastic was a factor, but plastic cost didn't stop me from subbing. Lots of other reasons almost kept me away.

That said, I did dub to keep it going. But it was done with a sense of resentment. Who wants to feel that while enjoying their hobby?

I also subbed -- not based on the figures announced -- they were solid, but lacking a wow factor. I was hoping for some good stuff later in the year, but my hopes would probably have been dashed.

I think, though, that the cost of plastic is what killed the figures at retail -- thus making a sub necessary. The sub could have been handled better -- but there seemed to be external (and internal) forces at work that made the offerings less than they should have been.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 14, 2013, 12:47:59 pm
I'm in the "wait and see" mode in terms of action figures.  I have high hopes and low expectations for Dynamite Toys.  Some cool six inch stuff might get me back in the game.

In terms of DC/Mattel, I truly believe that 2014 ain't the end.  Dunno why I think that, I just do.  A few years downtime on the property might very well revive interest when all we get from DCC is nU and video game figures.  Can't say I'll be there when/if it happens, but I hope it does.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 14, 2013, 05:02:35 pm
In terms of DC/Mattel, I truly believe that 2014 ain't the end.  Dunno why I think that, I just do.  A few years downtime on the property might very well revive interest when all we get from DCC is nU and video game figures.  Can't say I'll be there when/if it happens, but I hope it does.

Well if Gard positively holds out hope then there must be a glorious age just around the corner!!  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 14, 2013, 05:39:50 pm
Just the lesson of Mavel Legends.  It's never quite "dead".  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on October 15, 2013, 06:57:40 pm
I thought the lesson there was "The re-animated corpse is never quite the same."   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 15, 2013, 09:22:16 pm
You may be right about that.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 16, 2013, 02:45:49 pm
Pimpin' 70's Ocean Master came in the mail today.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/OceanMasterBackground.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/OceanMasterBackground.jpg.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 16, 2013, 05:12:51 pm
He looks great in that pic! Point for that. Thanks!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 16, 2013, 09:43:52 pm
I am pretty happy with him. Compared him to my DCD version and this one is much better. I think the one thing I liked better about DCD was the sea shell belt buckle, but I am not sure what is comic accurate at which points for the character. DCD's seems to be from a slightly different costume.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 16, 2013, 09:50:57 pm
Oh and I opened Huntress today, too. People are out of their mind for complaining about that figure. They dumped a ton of resources into that one and getting it right. It reminded me of the quality of a DC Super Heroes attention to detail from back in the day.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 17, 2013, 05:19:37 am
Pimpin' 70's Ocean Master came in the mail today.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/OceanMasterBackground.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/OceanMasterBackground.jpg.html)

And once again Matty fucks up the scale.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Polarboy on October 17, 2013, 06:56:16 am
That was quick


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on October 17, 2013, 08:11:09 pm
And once again Matty fucks up the scale.

 :D

I got my Ocean Master today as well.  I'm still not crazy about the color scheme they decided to go with, but he's one of the better sub figures we've gotten this year.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 17, 2013, 09:30:08 pm
I got my Ocean Master today as well.  I'm still not crazy about the color scheme they decided to go with, but he's one of the better sub figures we've gotten this year.

I don't have much history with the character. Is the colour scheme reflective of the character at some point in his comic career?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 17, 2013, 09:39:14 pm
I got my Ocean Master today as well.  I'm still not crazy about the color scheme they decided to go with, but he's one of the better sub figures we've gotten this year.

I don't have much history with the character. Is the colour scheme reflective of the character at some point in his comic career?

I would say it goes with hook hand Aquaman the best.

http://www.aquamanshrine.net/2009/01/aquaman-vol6-67-may-2000.html


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on October 21, 2013, 07:55:10 pm
Anyone else notice on back of box is a code for aquaman #14 new 52 digital comic? How long have they been doing this???


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 21, 2013, 10:02:24 pm
Just started. I think we should all use it to try and support Matty figure. If DC has a bunch of digital downloads off this maybe they'll take notice and it'll help us get some more figs.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 21, 2013, 10:02:52 pm
Also, I would totally take a new 52 Black Manta. I love that redesign.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on October 22, 2013, 08:25:42 pm
Ocean Master came sailing in today! I haven't unboxed him yet, but he looks great in the box!  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on October 25, 2013, 09:45:52 am
Also, I would totally take a new 52 Black Manta. I love that redesign.

Isn't that more of a tweak than a redesign?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on October 25, 2013, 03:14:43 pm
Are these 6-inch DCD for Earth 2?

Spoiler warning if you're reading Earth 2. Looks like Batman II's identity is revealed in the write up. On display are Wonder Woman, Alan Scott, Jay Garrick and Batman II.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/10/11/dc-comics-seemingly-spoils-the-identity-of-earth-2-batman-in-action-figure-tweet/


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 25, 2013, 03:58:51 pm
6.75 I believe.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 25, 2013, 11:02:39 pm
"The identity of Earth-2′s Batman is something that’s been a subject of furious speculation and debate"

Yeah.

I'm sure it has.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on October 26, 2013, 12:10:26 am
I'll have to consider adding Alan Scott to my Green Lantern shelf, where he'll be "Anonymous Blond Humanoid Green Lantern"


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on October 26, 2013, 07:15:13 am
I'll have to consider adding Alan Scott to my Green Lantern shelf, where he'll be "Anonymous gay Blond Humanoid Green Lantern"

Fixed that for you. You want to keep your publicity stunts in order.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 27, 2013, 07:58:10 pm
Also, I would totally take a new 52 Black Manta. I love that redesign.

Isn't that more of a tweak than a redesign?
If you would call the Batman, Superman, or Flash costumes redesigns, then it would be appropriate to call this one too.

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/1/16715/3026214-4210370592-tumbl.jpg)

Same colors but I like that they added the scaled armor like Aquaman has, I like the silver instead of gold, and I like the general aesthetics of the costume way more than any of the others. The chin spike is the only miss in an otherwise perfect design, and even that Ivan Reis manages to make look pretty okay.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on October 28, 2013, 10:41:59 am

If you would call the Batman, Superman, or Flash costumes redesigns, then it would be appropriate to call this one too.

Of the above, I only thought the Superman outfit was a major overhaul -- and not in a good way.

Wait a sec! That's Ocean Master in the pic above! I thought you were referring to Black Manta -- who really looks the same as he ever did -- except for some nu52 seams.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 29, 2013, 09:27:37 pm
Sorry. Villain mixup. Yeah black manta was mercifully spared any reboot costume butchery.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 29, 2013, 10:06:37 pm
As a wee lad I always used to wonder why he used to wear the Legion of Doom headquarters on his head  ???


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on October 30, 2013, 09:37:28 pm
I always wondered why did the legion of doom HQ was a giant darth vader head?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on October 31, 2013, 08:27:26 am
Ice, Ice, baby is on eBay for $17.99 Yankee Dollars with free shipping.   Just do a search for "DC Universe Ice".  As seems to be the norm now,  the final sculpt is lacking,  but I'm still happy that she's on her way.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on October 31, 2013, 10:10:43 am
Looks decent.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on October 31, 2013, 08:17:48 pm
thanks for the heads up.  Ice is on the way for me too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on October 31, 2013, 08:59:40 pm
Can't believe she's lasted this long.  The guy had something like 28 of them, but I would think that a character that has...

A) often finished in the top ten in fan polls
B) is needed to complete the Fire and Ice duo
C) was in danger of not being released at all
D) isn't due out for another 8 months
E) could be sold out durning early access
F) has no missing accessories
G) is at least $20 cheaper shipped than the official version...and that's just in the U.S.

...would sell like hot cakes.  People jumped ship on this line in a hurry.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 31, 2013, 09:57:17 pm
WTF happened to her face?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on November 01, 2013, 10:46:47 am
I got mine. Point to Xavion for the heads up.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on November 01, 2013, 12:27:01 pm
Got what was listed as the 'last one' late last night.  Guess more fell off the truck.   [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on November 10, 2013, 01:07:04 am
Damn. Totally missed this. Hopefully that means it was produced and I will get it eventually.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on November 10, 2013, 08:13:30 am
Apparently Hookquaman was up for less than 14 shipped at some point.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on November 10, 2013, 10:29:17 am
Yeah,

I got one for 13.99! That's about what I pay for shipping to Mattel.

Oh, and the shipping from China is free and it actually arrives faster. I'm still waiting for Ocean Master.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on November 10, 2013, 08:52:26 pm
I am really bummed out now. Jesus.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on November 11, 2013, 06:15:35 pm
Ice showed up on Saturday.  Opened her up this afternoon.  Nice clean apps, face looks better than the pic indicated.  A nice pickup for the price.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on November 12, 2013, 06:00:45 pm
Ice in the house!

(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad203/animalluver123459/Xavion2004/00a2bf646b9f2314fc1b77d03981fbdb.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on November 12, 2013, 07:08:04 pm
Wow... The hair looks pretty bad...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on November 12, 2013, 07:37:55 pm
Wow... The hair looks pretty bad...

It was the 80's, man! 8)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on November 13, 2013, 11:17:51 am
Ice in the house!

(http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad203/animalluver123459/Xavion2004/00a2bf646b9f2314fc1b77d03981fbdb.jpg)

She looks like Melanie Ackerman (sp?) from Trophy Wife (and Watchmen).


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on November 13, 2013, 02:16:23 pm
Looks great to me.  Can't wait till mine shows up.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on November 15, 2013, 07:42:29 pm
Got my Ice today.  Quite pleased.    :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 16, 2013, 04:14:43 am
Got my Ocean Master and I'm pretty happy. Nice to see a fig with a bit of tooling.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on November 19, 2013, 12:53:11 am
R'as al Ghul arrived Saturday. I still haven't opened the box. The excitement is gone :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on November 19, 2013, 03:19:38 am
I got Ice and R'as al Ghul today. R'as looks much better in hand.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on November 23, 2013, 09:56:37 pm
I think that some of the stuff that was planned is somewhat possible, so anybody think HOURMAN could happen?  I don't think he was planned, but he was predicted along  with AQUALAD.  Both could be made with existing bucks/parts.

Then again, maybe I'm just fooling myself.  [think]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 24, 2013, 08:43:15 pm
Does anyone else looking at Ra's think he looks a lot like Dan Ackroyd from the Ghostbusters line?

Nailed it!

I wondered where I'd seen that face?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on November 24, 2013, 09:45:46 pm
I looked at not just who I wanted (Legion), but who were the biggest characters since Crisis that were missing Garth was at the top of my list, but as Tempest.

I can understand that.  In a perfect world, we would get both.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on November 26, 2013, 05:18:05 pm
After 12 fucking days, I finally got Ras.  What a piece of shit.  Good thing they made all that loser ass Supercrap while this line had a decent budget.   ::) 

Since this is the last figure in the line I will open, I can now reflect.  I regret that I started collecting this line.  It is woefully incomplete, turned into seriously cheap shit towards the end, and wasn't worth all the trouble and money I spent. 

And I cannot express how pissed I am about Doomsday.  He should have been made in wave 2.  And instead they fuck us out a decent figure or an important character.  Fuck you Mattel!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on November 26, 2013, 06:05:55 pm
I think that's Jersey's way of expressing indifference.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on November 26, 2013, 08:19:39 pm
After 12 fucking days, I finally got Ras.  What a piece of shit.  Good thing they made all that loser ass Supercrap while this line had a decent budget.   ::) 

Since this is the last figure in the line I will open, I can now reflect.  I regret that I started collecting this line.  It is woefully incomplete, turned into seriously cheap shit towards the end, and wasn't worth all the trouble and money I spent. 

And I cannot express how pissed I am about Doomsday.  He should have been made in wave 2.  And instead they fuck us out a decent figure or an important character.  Fuck you Mattel!

I totally agree with everything but this part:

I regret that I started collecting this line.  It is woefully incomplete, and wasn't worth all the trouble and money I spent.

It definitely didn't end well, but I still love the line as a whole.  It helps tremendously that neither Doomsday or Granny were all that important to me though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 26, 2013, 08:34:19 pm
I think that's Jersey's way of expressing indifference.

Really? The impression that I got was, despite a strong argument of solid pros and cons he was still on the fence?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on November 27, 2013, 11:00:10 am
I looked at not just who I wanted (Legion), but who were the biggest characters since Crisis that were missing Garth was at the top of my list, but as Tempest.

I can understand that.  In a perfect world, we would get both.

I'd be okay with either. Aqualad was still wearing the trunks as a young adult -- Perez era Titans. But I don't see any new 6-inchers coming from Mattel in the near future.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on November 27, 2013, 04:53:38 pm
While I am disappointed how the line is ending, and strongly feel the holes in my collection, if you had shown me a pic of all the figures in the line before day one and said "This is all you are going to get" I would have dived in head first, giggling away.

Sorry for the extremely long sentence.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 27, 2013, 09:34:51 pm
While I am disappointed how the line is ending, and strongly feel the holes in my collection, if you had shown me a pic of all the figures in the line before day one and said "This is all you are going to get" I would have dived in head first, giggling away.

Agreed.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on November 28, 2013, 01:25:36 am
Scored a movie masters green lantern "green man " who was a Matty website exclusive, but I got him at a toy world here in oz for $12 !


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on November 28, 2013, 09:05:04 pm
While I am disappointed how the line is ending, and strongly feel the holes in my collection, if you had shown me a pic of all the figures in the line before day one and said "This is all you are going to get" I would have dived in head first, giggling away.

Yep.  That would have seemed impossible back then.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 28, 2013, 09:38:24 pm
Scored a movie masters green lantern "green man " who was a Matty website exclusive, but I got him at a toy world here in oz for $12 !

Nice.

Pretty decent figure.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on November 29, 2013, 11:30:00 am
While I am disappointed how the line is ending, and strongly feel the holes in my collection, if you had shown me a pic of all the figures in the line before day one and said "This is all you are going to get" I would have dived in head first, giggling away.

I would have been in shock. I was hoping for five or six waves and a decent representation of the Satellite Era JLA.  Zatanna is a good example of a character that I thought would be on the bubble.  "Maybe...just maybe...if she has some fans among the decision makers and the line lasts long enough, we *might* get a Zatanna."

Needless to say, we went well beyond Zatanna.  Ironically, it was my other favorite DC character, Huntress, that I thought had a better chance than any other female outside of Wonder Woman at the outset that almost didn't make it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on November 29, 2013, 05:24:16 pm
You know it's quite telling that the nu 52 Shazam is on sale on Matty and has been for days without selling out.

Can you imagine that happening with leftovers from any other SDCC exclusive?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on November 29, 2013, 07:12:42 pm
people blame a lot of things for the death of DCUC but nothing and I mean nothing contributed more to it than DC's reboot


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on December 01, 2013, 06:43:27 am
You know it's quite telling that the nu 52 Shazam is on sale on Matty and has been for days without selling out.

Can you imagine that happening with leftovers from any other SDCC exclusive?
to play devils advocate ...
Swamp thing and plastic man both did it , (not sure how wonder twins went at the time ) and lobo wasn't created in quantities for other markets other than SDCC attendees
We also didn't have one last year so there is no telling how the reduction of the line reflected people buying these over a two year gap


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 03, 2013, 11:54:19 am
Just got hook hand aquaman. It's the best figure they've put out in quite awhile. He was very low on my list and I still excited now that I have him.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 03, 2013, 08:03:06 pm
Just got hook hand aquaman. It's the best figure they've put out in quite awhile. He was very low on my list and I still excited now that I have him.

Still a WTF? figure for me. I know people get wood over the idea of completing a Morrison JLA, but the first Arthur we got was fine for me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 03, 2013, 09:57:26 pm
Just got hook hand aquaman. It's the best figure they've put out in quite awhile. He was very low on my list and I still excited now that I have him.

Still a WTF? figure for me. I know people get wood over the idea of completing a Morrison JLA, but the first Arthur we got was fine for me.

That's how I felt until I got him in hand.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on December 04, 2013, 10:58:15 pm
I'd still like to land one to make a Sea-King CSA custom, but I'm not paying Mattel prices for him.  Still keeping an eye out for Superboy and Damien too.

Any anyone else hoping for unleashed Doomsday to hit the 'factory seconds' market?

I actually don't!  It would cost WAY too much, and don't think I could live knowing someone had it, and I didn't


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 05, 2013, 03:34:36 pm
Fair enough.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on December 05, 2013, 05:51:52 pm
I got hook hand Aquaman today, great figure!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 06, 2013, 08:43:34 pm
I got hook hand Aquaman today, great figure!

Dammit! I must live at the ass end of the postal world.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on December 09, 2013, 11:38:05 pm
I hate all of you who managed to get Hook Hand. If anyone is disapointed in it or realizes they do not want it, please PM me. Thanks!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on December 10, 2013, 04:50:16 am
Those finding Hook Aquaman, was this an 'overseas seller' or did I miss sale day?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on December 10, 2013, 05:08:55 am
Overseas seller for me, $14.99 US shipped.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 10, 2013, 10:44:47 pm
Yes, overseas at a huge discount! Faster and free shipping too!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 12, 2013, 11:36:43 am
Well Batzarro is in the mail according to the email I just got. What a lousy way to end the sub.

Of course, I'm still waiting for Ra's to arrive. So I should see old Batty around late January.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 14, 2013, 06:00:39 pm
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/dc-collectibles-solicitations-for-items-in-stores-june-2014/

Cheap month for me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on December 14, 2013, 06:04:17 pm
I think I want the Earth 2 figures. But that Rabbit Arkham Batman pisses me off. What a stupid figure.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on December 14, 2013, 11:04:55 pm
I wish DCD/DCC was producing figures of this calibre (in terms of articulation and overall execution, not just sculpts) BEFORE the New 52.

The figures are really nice, but most of these new 52 designs do nothing for me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on December 14, 2013, 11:06:58 pm
Batzarro arrived today. I don't really know what to say. It's not a bad figure but it's lacklustre and not the greatest characters selection for a premium series. It would be great as the obligatory Bat-character in a DCUC wave or rotated around in Batman Unlimited or whatever ... but as an example of what the Club Infinite Earths / Signature Collection offered ... just a poor choice. I look at this figure and think how sad it is that next year's subscription would have included more Legionnaires ...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on December 15, 2013, 09:28:14 pm
Wait, they took the Ed McG Superman figure you can get for Fifty cents at any LCS and... made it a statue?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 15, 2013, 09:31:57 pm
I think I want the Earth 2 figures.

They just announced an E-2 Hawkgirl as well. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on December 15, 2013, 09:51:43 pm
I think I want the Earth 2 figures.

They just announced an E-2 Hawkgirl as well. 

She looks pretty cool. I'm hoping this means that we'll be able to get a complete team.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on December 16, 2013, 02:39:18 am
If nothing else, she'll be great custom fodder.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on December 17, 2013, 07:33:06 am
If nothing else, she'll be great custom fodder.

Dawnstar?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on December 18, 2013, 11:49:13 am
Guys, I know I missed the boat on Aquaman, but PLEASE if you see Damien show up from a overseas seller, hook me up. Those are two huge wants and I am hoping not to miss out on Robin like I did Aquaman. I am not on ebay so I don't have that option but I would be happy to reimburse you plus a bit more if you could keep me in mind and it was less than 25. You don't even have to ask. Thanks!

I am on the yogurt shoppe facebook thing so if it happens and I am not on here, post there and I will see it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on December 19, 2013, 06:12:58 am
Here is a link to hook hand Aquaman...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Mattle-DC-universe-DCU-Signature-Collection-AQUAMAN-Figure-RARE-/201003640824?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item2eccc027f8


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on December 20, 2013, 11:55:07 pm
Here's butt ugly Superboy...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=291041531637&globalID=EBAY-US


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on December 20, 2013, 11:58:28 pm
Perfect buck for an update to my Badger.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on December 20, 2013, 11:58:46 pm
LURCH!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 21, 2013, 03:31:22 pm
Here's butt ugly Superboy...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=291041531637&globalID=EBAY-US

They made a Bigfoot Silva figure?

http://alvgear.com/image/data/Antonio-Bigfoot-Silva-UFC-146-weigh-478x270.jpg


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on December 21, 2013, 08:19:15 pm
Here's butt ugly Superboy...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=291041531637&globalID=EBAY-US

They made a Bigfoot Silva figure?

http://alvgear.com/image/data/Antonio-Bigfoot-Silva-UFC-146-weigh-478x270.jpg
;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: KOLOBOSREXX on December 23, 2013, 03:18:47 pm
..
Here's butt ugly Superboy...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=291041531637&globalID=EBAY-US
"Jinkiees, What HAppened to His Head?!?"


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on December 25, 2013, 09:52:05 pm
I wouldn't pay 12 cents for that piece of shit.  That is the most mailed in, half assed head sculpt of all time. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 25, 2013, 11:32:54 pm
I wouldn't pay 12 cents for that piece of shit.  That is the most mailed in, half assed head sculpt of all time. 

What about 11 cents?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on December 29, 2013, 05:12:02 pm
Maybe not the place for this, but I saw the first wave of the DC Multiverse 4" figures at a comic/toy show today.  Not sure how much the guy wanted, but are these being spotted at retail anywhere?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on December 29, 2013, 06:08:10 pm
Actually I saw them marked waaaay down at my Target. They were $2.98 a piece and lumped in with the marked down Avengers 5POA Crap. Obviously a mistake, but they've been out there.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on December 29, 2013, 06:09:21 pm
Weird.  What was the original price on them if you remember?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on December 29, 2013, 06:21:52 pm
I'm not sure. I heard another story where they did not have the item in the computer so the cashier made up a price.

On Amazon they are $8.99, so I'd imagine around that point or a few bucks more is the SRP.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 29, 2013, 08:21:24 pm
......they did not have the item in the computer

This happens at my TRU all the time. They put the stock out before it's entered into the computer. Didn't think it'd be that hard to remember the order to do things.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on December 29, 2013, 09:35:14 pm
Just saw them at Target today.  The toy aisles are a mess, so I didn't see a price.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on December 30, 2013, 05:10:22 pm
Have a pic you can share for scale purposes?  I want the figure but have been very undecided on it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on December 30, 2013, 05:57:56 pm
Well, I got my black shirt Superboy today.  :-\

The head is meh.  Not one of the Horsemen's better offerings to be sure.  I'm pretty sure the lower body is totally Jack Knight.

Which makes him too tall.  I put him next to Ra's and Connor is taller.  :(


At least I didn't pay full Mattel for it.

And that's why he'll stay far away from my collection.  That stuff just bugs me way too much


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on December 30, 2013, 07:18:05 pm
would make a good iron munroe


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 31, 2013, 12:03:40 am
Wow! It's like a competition to see who's the biggest turd.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on December 31, 2013, 01:41:52 pm
would make a good iron munroe

That's what I'm going to make out of mine. Believe it or not in the early stages of this costume design there was apparently going to be some connection between the characters.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 02, 2014, 01:25:54 pm
Why did they stop manufacturing white jeans? Oh, and are black jeans back in style? Saw some when I was doing my X-mas shopping.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 02, 2014, 03:56:43 pm
Why did they stop manufacturing white jeans? Oh, and are black jeans back in style? Saw some when I was doing my X-mas shopping.

Were they ever in style?

I suppose emo's keep the brand alive.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on January 02, 2014, 08:11:28 pm
I'm sure Levi's still make white jeans, I used to wear them all the time and have seen them at surplus stores. Surprisingly they always stayed white!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on January 05, 2014, 11:30:55 am
(http://cdn2.worldofminecraft.com/resize/remote/f7106adcae090cb09b9710e4d49e16fe-600x1245.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 05, 2014, 03:09:19 pm
Yeah, but if he cops grief about his fashion choices he can tell people to go fuck themselves.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 05, 2014, 03:57:48 pm
Yeah, but if he cops grief about his fashion choices he can tell people to go fuck themselves.

And they will!
 jaw_drop jaw_drop


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on January 08, 2014, 12:39:40 am
Superboy is garbage.

Ice looks cool. Enough. I do not have an ebay account so hoping it will stay up long enough for a friend to buy one tomorrow and I can give him the money.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on January 08, 2014, 07:14:11 am
I really don't like how Superboy came out, but I need one down the road for the collection.  Could be worse.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on January 08, 2014, 02:06:55 pm
Not much. I was okay with him being over sized because I figured if nothing else it could go with the huge ass Red Robin they made but it's just not a great figure. The head is weird (huge ears, big eyebrows, and he looks really old.), his skin is way too dark, the previously mentioned size is an issue, they used the same tiny S shield that hurts the Superman figures, but it looks even more undersized on this, the collar on his tee shirt is really wide, no wrist band, and I think its a pass for me. Have a friend ordering Ice, who I am unsure of the head sculpt on, but I need) and Aquaman, who looks perfect and I hope will arrive free of any QC problems.

That jeans and tee shirt Superboy was a horrible design. While I liked the character, I never liked the look so I am okay with not having it. If I had a shot at getting more Teen Titans from this modern era that would be cool but since they're dead and not getting made, I don't care.

Now if I can score Damien, I will be a happy guy.

And if they eventually put out those Doomsdays and I can get those, I will be elated.




Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 08, 2014, 07:40:06 pm
Finally got my Batzarro. Wow! Just so underwhelming.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on January 09, 2014, 08:38:03 am
Never opened mine either.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on January 09, 2014, 10:38:25 am
Speaking of 'zarros, if anyone has and is tired of their light blue Bizarro or Superman I'm in the market for them :-)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: bigraj on January 23, 2014, 08:36:50 pm
Gotta love ToyGuru throwing in several jabs at the collectors for not continuing to support a line that was only becoming shittier and more expensive and then try to drum up excitement for a horrible retail line.  Oh, do keep pushing that containment suit Doomsday that helped kill the sub as your SDCC exclusive.  Fucking Mattel.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on January 23, 2014, 08:42:54 pm
Alright, time to start up the guessing game contest.

What's the final figure going to be?

Will they spend money on tooling? Or will they cheap out?

Regular or oversized?

What are you guys thinking?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 23, 2014, 08:46:01 pm
Dawnstar.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 23, 2014, 08:52:41 pm
I'm not even going to try and guess because I simply don't have a fuck to give anymore.

"2014 is dawning and it’s a great time to be a DC collector on Mattycollector.com!"

Seriously? Seriously? Are you on fucking crack?

A line beloved by so many is dying, replaced with a line collectors don't care about and the remaining figures are $25 each. With international shipping and the exchange rate I'm looking at $44 for a 6" toy.

Shove it up your ass.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 23, 2014, 11:33:02 pm
I'm not even going to try and guess because I simply don't have a fuck to give anymore.

"2014 is dawning and it’s a great time to be a DC collector on Mattycollector.com!"

Seriously? Seriously? Are you on fucking crack?

A line beloved by so many is dying, replaced with a line collectors don't care about and the remaining figures are $25 each. With international shipping and the exchange rate I'm looking at $44 for a 6" toy.

Shove it up your ass.

 [applause]


Alright, time to start up the guessing game contest.

What's the final figure going to be?

Will they spend money on tooling? Or will they cheap out?

Regular or oversized?

What are you guys thinking?

It'd be nice if the "surprise" was Johnny Thunder/Thunderbolt, I mean I know technically you'd need a classic Mister Terrific, but he would at least round off the JSA.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 23, 2014, 11:36:00 pm
Carolina blue Supes.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 23, 2014, 11:38:08 pm
Carolina blue Supes.

Every time I see a leaked one of those that somebody got, it makes me feel like the version I have is no good.  [violin]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on January 23, 2014, 11:40:59 pm
I would think it's the Super Powers 3pack that people have been speculating about forever.

And yeah, I wish I'd gotten the light blue Superman and Bizarro :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on January 24, 2014, 01:46:49 am
Of course it's a great time to be a DC collector on Mattycollector.com! You can buy $25, $50 or $100 Matty Money gift certificates to spend on ...

... Flying Stands  :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on January 25, 2014, 12:16:19 am
I accidently reported someone for spam on this thread. I meant to report Toy Guru.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 25, 2014, 12:37:11 am
I accidently reported someone for spam on this thread. I meant to report Toy Guru.

I forwarded it accordingly.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on January 27, 2014, 08:21:15 pm
Fuck                                    You                             Mattel! 

That will be all


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on January 27, 2014, 08:21:35 pm
oh wait.    [moon]

ok, now i'm done


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 27, 2014, 11:16:12 pm
Hey guys! I think I fixed Superboy!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/DSC_0021.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/DSC_0021.jpg.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on January 27, 2014, 11:32:27 pm
Love it :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on January 28, 2014, 12:32:53 am
Point!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 28, 2014, 03:48:17 am
 [applause]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on February 13, 2014, 01:38:23 am
Well done.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on February 13, 2014, 08:25:56 pm
I'm not even going to try and guess because I simply don't have a fuck to give anymore.

"2014 is dawning and it’s a great time to be a DC collector on Mattycollector.com!"

Seriously? Seriously? Are you on fucking crack?

A line beloved by so many is dying, replaced with a line collectors don't care about and the remaining figures are $25 each. With international shipping and the exchange rate I'm looking at $44 for a 6" toy.

Shove it up your ass.

Reading this latest pitch from Toy Guru is like bumping into an ex-girlfriend that acts like you just split up yesterday when you've been over it for years and you're so in love with someone else that you can barely even remember the time when you were with her.

We've moved on, TG.  You might want to think about moving on too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 14, 2014, 07:03:06 pm
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/mattel-video-pre-new-york-toy-fair-update-dc-figure-availability-tf14/

Carolina Blue Superman pretty much confirmed.  Or maybe a red herring?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on February 14, 2014, 09:09:09 pm
What is it about Scott's face that just makes me want to curse?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: LukeyLuke on February 14, 2014, 10:17:12 pm
What is it about Scott's face that just makes me want to curse?

Lol!   [applause]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on February 15, 2014, 10:35:31 am
AH, Toy "Guru", he always manages to fuck something up a little. For me, this time, didn't even have to do with toys but when he says stuff like "All of your favorite fan press will be there, we've talk to all our favorite fan sites and all the actual media".

Actual media?

Dude, not only fan press is also actual media, but they are the ones that are mostly showing news of your very niche based toys show some respect and say "other media".


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 15, 2014, 02:48:50 pm
AH, Toy "Guru", he always manages to fuck something up a little. For me, this time, didn't even have to do with toys but when he says stuff like "All of your favorite fan press will be there, we've talk to all our favorite fan sites and all the actual media".

Actual media?

Dude, not only fan press is also actual media, but they are the ones that are mostly showing news of your very niche based toys show some respect and say "other media".

Good points.

Where was the "real" media when they should have been pimping their DCUC sub?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on February 15, 2014, 03:26:53 pm
Can we unsticky this thread now?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on February 15, 2014, 03:41:35 pm
Nah, we're still hatin' Mattel, we can unsticky it when it stops being funny  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on February 15, 2014, 04:11:55 pm
But that was almost a year ago.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on February 16, 2014, 02:08:18 pm
http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2014/02/16/2014-toy-fair-reveals-straight-from-the-action-in-new-york/#more-3568

[size=18]FUCK YOU MATTEL!!!!!!!pt[/size]

Top dollar for a bunch of fucking repaints?  Yea right!  And more Super Crap to boot.  What a fucking joke.  I'm selling my classics.  I don't even want to look at them anymore.  They have completely disgraced the line that was once my favorite.  What a bunch of fucking assholes!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 16, 2014, 02:14:08 pm
http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2014/02/16/2014-toy-fair-reveals-straight-from-the-action-in-new-york/#more-3568

[size=18FUCK YOU MATTEL!!!!!!!pt][/size]

Top dollar for a bunch of fucking repaints?  Yea right!  And more Super Crap to boot.  What a fucking joke.  I'm selling my classics.  I don't even want to look at them anymore.  They have completely disgraced the line that was once my favorite.  What a bunch of fucking assholes!

I probably won't be happy when I find out the price, but as a long-time fan of Super Powers, I'm pretty pleased with this turn of events.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on February 16, 2014, 02:17:24 pm
You're seriously going to pay money for the Green Lantern Riddler?  Really?  Seriously???????


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 16, 2014, 02:24:33 pm
You're seriously going to pay money for the Green Lantern Riddler?  Really?  Seriously???????

I love Super Powers and this is great by me. The Super Powers Kalibak was one of my biggest "wants."

I don't mean to come off as confrontational by mentioning this, but from an outsiders perspective, I've heard you (let's be generous and say) be unhappy with the nu52 comics as a whole. I've seen you write about the nu52 DC Collectibles new product reveals disparagingly. I suppose I could chalk that up to pure love of classic DC Comics. But then this gets Mattel a "Fuck you"? Seems a little extreme, unless it's all in good fun.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 16, 2014, 02:25:22 pm
Huh.

I wonder what Mxy is going to go for since he's got 4 whole points of articulation?



Pity they hadn't opted for a re-release of the Legion 12-pack or a simple Johnny Thunder.

A Johnny Thunder would have been nice.

Maybe Mxy is just a pack-in with one of the Supermen, like the K-Mart Bat-Mite?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 16, 2014, 02:48:01 pm
Maybe Mxy is just a pack-in with one of the Supermen, like the K-Mart Bat-Mite?

I bet he comes with gold Superman. How else are they going to sell more than a handful of that figure?

Makes sense to me. [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 16, 2014, 02:58:26 pm
From AFI.  Single carded.  $30 each.  Kalibak doesn't have a listed price because you have to buy all six others, which each come with a piece.

$180 for 5 repaints and a staction.

(http://i2.wp.com/www.actionfigureinsider.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/MAT_3.jpg)

So the piece must come in a little baggie.

(http://i2.wp.com/www.actionfigureinsider.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/MAT_7.jpg?resize=480%2C640)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on February 16, 2014, 03:30:44 pm
From AFI.  Single carded.  $30 each.  Kalibak doesn't have a listed price because you have to buy all six others, which each come with a piece.

$180 for 5 repaints and a staction.

(http://i2.wp.com/www.actionfigureinsider.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/MAT_3.jpg)

 :D :D :D  I feel a "special sale" for these coming in the next year or 2. 

They don't have a fucking chance at selling them at that price.  Or any price. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 16, 2014, 03:53:43 pm
You're seriously going to pay money for the Green Lantern Riddler?  Really?  Seriously???????

I love Super Powers and this is great by me. The Super Powers Kalibak was one of my biggest "wants."

I don't mean to come off as confrontational by mentioning this, but from an outsiders perspective, I've heard you (let's be generous and say) be unhappy with the nu52 comics as a whole. I've seen you write about the nu52 DC Collectibles new product reveals disparagingly. I suppose I could chalk that up to pure love of classic DC Comics. But then this gets Mattel a "Fuck you"? Seems a little extreme, unless it's all in good fun.

Nah, Jersey likes gettin' his hate on  :D

To be fair though....as many people on this forum are DC diehards and couldn't give a crap about Super Powers, it's a bit of a kick in the nuts.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 16, 2014, 04:04:20 pm
You're seriously going to pay money for the Green Lantern Riddler?  Really?  Seriously???????

I love Super Powers and this is great by me. The Super Powers Kalibak was one of my biggest "wants."

I don't mean to come off as confrontational by mentioning this, but from an outsiders perspective, I've heard you (let's be generous and say) be unhappy with the nu52 comics as a whole. I've seen you write about the nu52 DC Collectibles new product reveals disparagingly. I suppose I could chalk that up to pure love of classic DC Comics. But then this gets Mattel a "Fuck you"? Seems a little extreme, unless it's all in good fun.

Nah, Jersey likes gettin' his hate on  :D

To be fair though....as many people on this forum are DC diehards and couldn't give a crap about Super Powers, it's a bit of a kick in the nuts.

No big deal then I guess. Just offering a take from someone who I guess overheard the middle of a conversation is all.

As far as a kick in the nuts, I guess that's weird to me. I would say I'm a DC Die Hard who grew up on Super Powers. And I would imagine Scotty is fairly similar to myself. I don't see Super Powers or even nu52 as these mutually exclusive things. DC is DC to me.

I posted these to share with friends who are much in the same vein and the only thing that was really balked at (fair enough) was the price point.

I would imagine in ToyGuru's mind this line-up of repaints is in the vein of his "altered road map" for MOTUC.

I mean I could sit here and whine about no Rima or no Wendy, Marvin and Wonder Dog or personal fan favorites being left out of a send off, but to me I was thinking we'd get one last figure. Instead we get 7 and the Kalibak was one of my major BAF wants that I'd thought I'd never see.

I almost want to buy these directly from Matty collector. Almost.  ;)



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on February 16, 2014, 04:08:20 pm
Yeah... This is super stupid to me... I'm not sure they'll sell a bunch of repaints and when they don't it's all going to be the fans fault for not doing their part.

I like Super Powers, but franlky, my dear? I don't give a fuck about these...

See, Dozy... Hatin' on Mattel is never not entertaining...

 ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on February 16, 2014, 04:12:47 pm
That Kalibak looks nothing like the SP Kalibak.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 16, 2014, 04:26:37 pm
That Kalibak looks nothing like the SP Kalibak.

Who was the guy that always bitched about the Kalibak we got?  He's going to explode.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on February 16, 2014, 04:47:05 pm
Hate to admit it, but I really do want the standard and gold Superman from that line.  The rest of it can burn in hell.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Stars on February 16, 2014, 05:08:38 pm
Has anyone ever tried to get the wing bracket off of Hawkman to install it elsewhere?

I did:

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/jackstarman/026-1.jpg)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/jackstarman/027.jpg)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/jackstarman/046.jpg)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/jackstarman/004-10.jpg)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o5/jackstarman/003-12.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on February 16, 2014, 05:56:03 pm
Honestly, I can't think of a more fitting way to send off the line than one last pathetetic cash grab at the expense of lifelong Super Powers fans.  I don't happen to be one, so I could care less either way, but to trot out something that obviously took no thought or effort whatsoever and then have the gall to ask $30 plus shipping per figure makes me glad that better men than I stood up for themselves and put an end to this crap by refusing to buy a subscription this year.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: RockoJerome on February 16, 2014, 06:10:00 pm
I would get all of these and hang them carded on my wall, but not for that price. They should've just put them out packaged that way at retail to begin with, maybe a Target exclusive or something.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 16, 2014, 06:14:28 pm
Honestly, I can't think of a more fitting way to send off the line than one last pathetetic cash grab at the expense of lifelong Super Powers fans.  I don't happen to be one, so I could care less either way, but to trot out something that obviously took no thought or effort whatsoever and then have the gall to ask $30 plus shipping per figure makes me glad that better men than I stood up for themselves and put an end to this crap by refusing to buy a subscription this year.

Exactly.  They won't produce anything anymore without a built in nostalgia fanbase a la MotU.  No way were we ever gonna get GA Mr. Terrific. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 16, 2014, 10:49:10 pm
That Kalibak looks nothing like the SP Kalibak.

Who was the guy that always bitched about the Kalibak we got?  He's going to explode.

Degra.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 16, 2014, 10:59:48 pm
Exactly.  They won't produce anything anymore without a built in nostalgia fanbase a la MotU.  No way were we ever gonna get GA Mr. Terrific.

And yet, "2014 is a great year to be a DC Collector!"  ::)  What DC are they talking about?? 

-Dog Collars?
-Dead Cows?
-Damaged Circuits?
-Dinosaur Cocks?
-Damaged Cuckolds?
-Davy Crockets? 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 16, 2014, 11:05:03 pm
That Kalibak looks nothing like the SP Kalibak.

Who was the guy that always bitched about the Kalibak we got?  He's going to explode.

Degra.

He's fine and happy with these.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: RockoJerome on February 16, 2014, 11:45:56 pm
Exactly.  They won't produce anything anymore without a built in nostalgia fanbase a la MotU.  No way were we ever gonna get GA Mr. Terrific.

And yet, "2014 is a great year to be a DC Collector!"  ::)  What DC are they talking about?? 

-Dog Collars?
-Dead Cows?
-Damaged Circuits?
-Dinosaur Cocks?
-Damaged Cuckolds?
-Davy Crockets? 

Somebody's buying that shit. It's weird, but there's a whole other bunch of people, and they're buying that shit all up. Gimmick covers work. Jim Lee art works. Didio's editorial decisions are working from the only point of view that matters to his masters: financially.

How's that for depressing?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on February 17, 2014, 02:00:54 am
Very. Dido is to DC what Miley Cyrus is to her record company.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on February 17, 2014, 06:02:25 am
No Comment


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on February 17, 2014, 11:00:16 am
Very. Dido is to DC what Miley Cyrus is to her record company.

Making a bunch of money for them while putting him/her on the line and probably ruining his/her career for the future?

Yeah, I can see that...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 17, 2014, 02:46:10 pm
That Kalibak looks nothing like the SP Kalibak.

Who was the guy that always bitched about the Kalibak we got?  He's going to explode.

Degra.

He's fine and happy with these.

Even the totally off-model Kalibak?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 17, 2014, 02:58:30 pm
Oh why, oh why can't we get a brown Grodd too?  ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 17, 2014, 03:52:36 pm
I'll try and get Mxy via one of those Chinese ebay sellers. Matty is not getting a cent from me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 17, 2014, 04:42:36 pm
That Kalibak looks nothing like the SP Kalibak.

Who was the guy that always bitched about the Kalibak we got?  He's going to explode.

Degra.

He's fine and happy with these.

Even the totally off-model Kalibak?

I don't recall any negative comments.

For me, it was between nothing and a repaint. I'll take a repaint from a dead line and be happy and surprised.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on February 17, 2014, 07:55:33 pm
I'll try and get Mxy via one of those Chinese ebay sellers. Matty is not getting a cent from me.

THIS


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on February 17, 2014, 08:23:25 pm
Very. Dido is to DC what Miley Cyrus is to her record company.

"Wrecking Ball" indeed.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 17, 2014, 10:32:56 pm
That Kalibak looks nothing like the SP Kalibak.

Who was the guy that always bitched about the Kalibak we got?  He's going to explode.

Degra.

He's fine and happy with these.

Even the totally off-model Kalibak?

I don't recall any negative comments.

For me, it was between nothing and a repaint. I'll take a repaint from a dead line and be happy and surprised.

Well it sounds like he's only buying the trinity repaints and Mxy. So maybe he's not happy with it? He'll have most of the parts to build one if he wants.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on February 18, 2014, 12:57:55 am
If it's this or nothing, I'll take this. No, they could not have done one last wave with just a few new sculpts -- that was the subscription that no one bought. No guaranteed money flow means no new figures.

I won't call it a hurrah, but one last wave of figures for a niche fan subset, overpriced by necessity, that no one "needs". It's fine.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 18, 2014, 06:44:57 am
At least there's no Captain El Rey. 

Fuck you Chip.  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on February 18, 2014, 07:15:01 am
A Carolina Blue Superman is hard to resist, but they aren't making it easy.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on February 18, 2014, 08:43:17 am
I'm pretty sure I'll bite the bullet to get Mxy, and may get Carolina as well. I'd be easier if they came out the same month to help with shipping, but of course thats not the case.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on February 18, 2014, 12:12:14 pm
On a related note, I'm still looking for the Carolina Blue Bizarro if anyone disgusted with their DCUC collection wants to get rid of it :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on February 18, 2014, 12:26:46 pm
I call dibs on any discarded 30 inch Anti Monitors. ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 18, 2014, 04:21:35 pm
I call dibs on any discarded 30 inch Anti Monitors. ;D

I still need Lobo  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on February 18, 2014, 08:10:50 pm
Tangential comment: Lobo was the craziest get ever for me. Traded with John Moores and through a nearly impossible to believe series of trips back and forth between countries Stray Cat Blues ended up with it and got it to me. I honestly thought it wasn't ever going to come. Took about a year and a half.

You know what? For all my anger about the Super Friends minority guys and Golden Pharaoh I have to say, this is an appropriate way to wrap it up. This line was a fantastic representation of the DC Universe but it was always obviously a love letter to the Super Powers line with many of the people involved and most of the collectors having had a part of their childhood and fandom influenced by the cartoon and toy line.

The price is shockingly high. I thought when people mentioned 30 bucks they were including shipping and tax but these will be totally 45+ dollars. That's insane. Mr. M especially is hard to justify that price for even if the head sculpt is fantastic. It would be cool it had two bodies or something but as a tiny statue? Wow.

If money was not an issue I would likely get most of them (Trinity and Mr. M. No gold supes) twice. Probably one of the only toys I would ever want to keep carded because of the feels that packing gives me.

And while some people complain about the Hal/Riddler thing, I think it's fantastic. This line was about diving deep. It is what got Kamandi in a Wal-Mart. Bat-Mite at K-Mart. Etrigan to start the line and Fire and Ice closing it out. This Super Amigo thing is funny and exactly the kind of fun, fan-centric nod that made this line great.

With all the nU stuff, can we really complain that they took one more swing with classics?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on February 19, 2014, 08:57:12 am
This is probably the most fitting, laughable ending to the line I could imagine.  A couple figures people actually wanted, some figures that no one asked for, all done on the super cheap and at the most ridiculous price point imaginable.

"Riddler" is such a waste of time and production costs.  Mxy is neat... for a pack in.  Not for a $30 stand alone figure.  Gold Superman and Kalibak might have been neat as an exclusive a couple years ago.  Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman all should have been at retail years ago.  At least Wonder Woman is finally getting rereleased for people who don't have her and we're finally getting a proper Superman that will match in color to Superboy, Eradicator, etc (I have a China light blue Supes and he's too light, IMO).

Instead of Gold Supes and Diddler we should have gotten modern Red Tornado and pretty much ANYTHING else.

I'll just get Superman and Mxy from China.  Fuck this line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 19, 2014, 08:34:29 pm
 :D

And these last two posts are what i love about this hobby and this forum.

If the 'Mess hadn't died when it did, I'm sure this announcement would have caused a meltdown with all the opinions and assorted rages that would have gone on.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Stars on February 19, 2014, 09:25:53 pm
Hey Matty , how about this instead?

We all just buy the fucking Super Powers Kalibak, Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman figures, They would cost the same...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on February 19, 2014, 10:36:30 pm
Heh, good point.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on February 19, 2014, 10:55:41 pm
Ha. I agree with every single thing on this page.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on February 20, 2014, 02:22:03 am
^That seems impossible. ^

As for how this would have played out on CM? Here's the Mess thread about this.

Gard: *Posted first because he always beats me to the punch. Follows with question to generate discussion*  ???

Gad:  [dunno]

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing]

Degra:  [yess]


Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing]

Moores: (something with a gorilla)

EvilFred'swife:  [crazy]

Degra:

           Quote: Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing]

 [moon]

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing] [cursing]
Scot:  [tap]

Chooch:  [rock] (Chooch rocks. Get it?)

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing] [cursing][cursing]

Degra and Fuckwhitmcforumruiner for ten more pages

 [slapfight]

The entire Critical Mess:  [runaway]





AFB:  [beer] We got koalas or some shit.





Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on February 20, 2014, 04:56:23 am
That's fucking awesome.

Now, can we stop talking about how this is better than the mess, and just BE better than the mess? OK? Good.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 20, 2014, 07:00:43 am
^That seems impossible. ^

As for how this would have played out on CM? Here's the Mess thread about this.

Gard: *Posted first because he always beats me to the punch. Follows with question to generate discussion*  ???

Gad:  [dunno]

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing]

Degra:  [yess]


Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing]

Moores: (something with a gorilla)

EvilFred'swife:  [crazy]

Degra:

           Quote: Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing]

 [moon]

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing] [cursing]
Scot:  [tap]

Chooch:  [rock] (Chooch rocks. Get it?)

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing] [cursing][cursing]

Degra and Fuckwhitmcforumruiner for ten more pages

 [slapfight]

The entire Critical Mess:  [runaway]

AFB:  [beer] We got koalas or some shit.

Sounds about right.  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 20, 2014, 06:17:35 pm
Subject aside, Gad is a god damn emoti-poet.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on February 20, 2014, 06:52:15 pm
http://thefwoosh.com/2014/02/toy-fair-2014-mattel-dc-universe-super-powers

So its a re-release and has a cool vintage box, but also one new character.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on February 20, 2014, 07:13:47 pm
A bit cheaper, and I would have considered it plus i've already got the Dc Direct Mister Mxyzptlk.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on February 20, 2014, 07:27:25 pm
http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/3441044647

Read these!!!  They're.. [sick]....thanking him!  WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!  How the flying FUCK could you thank a guy for $30 repaints, a statue, and an abomination of a Riddler? 

No wonder the line didn't last if this happy horseshit is what some people actually wanted.  Fucking pussy ass losers!   [moon]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on February 20, 2014, 08:22:34 pm
 :D

I missed you guys


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on February 20, 2014, 08:22:46 pm
I don't disagree with everything you're saying, but you do realise the Riddler is an homage to the Super Amigos Riddler, right?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2kjisMm3M9Y/SpOYVZNhDGI/AAAAAAAAJ1g/cEl-o0NZo-4/s400/5-the-riddler-argentina-super-powers-figure.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 20, 2014, 09:30:16 pm
According to TG, Mxy was the first figure of the next sub had it gone through.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on February 20, 2014, 10:01:12 pm
I don't disagree with everything you're saying, but you do realise the Riddler is an homage to the Super Amigos Riddler, right?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2kjisMm3M9Y/SpOYVZNhDGI/AAAAAAAAJ1g/cEl-o0NZo-4/s400/5-the-riddler-argentina-super-powers-figure.jpg)

Just because its "homage" to something, does not make it any less fucking horrible.  If I took a shit, in homage to the shit I took last time I shit, its still a shit. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on February 20, 2014, 10:11:04 pm
I don't disagree with everything you're saying, but you do realise the Riddler is an homage to the Super Amigos Riddler, right?



Just because its "homage" to something, does not make it any less fucking horrible.  If I took a shit, in homage to the shit I took last time I shit, its still a shit. 

OK, just checking. Carry on.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: gabs1977 on February 21, 2014, 04:54:19 am
Does anyone know who is Toy Guru?

I know he was featured on Toy Hunter for his Heman collection.So Matty offered him a job.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on February 21, 2014, 06:18:21 am
Just because its "homage" to something, does not make it any less fucking horrible.  If I took a shit, in homage to the shit I took last time I shit, its still a shit. 

That's almost poetic

If Mxy was a sub figure and they've been planning on screwing us over along, then really fuck them to hell. Can you imagine how furious we'd all be if we were forced to buy this little turd for the full price if an already overpriced figure?

Based on hints, I think we all kinda knew Mxy was coming, we just assumed it would be as a pack in (as he should have been).

A repaint of the wave 17 Luthor should have taken a spot in this final poop bomb they're releasing


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 21, 2014, 06:47:11 am
Seriously, I see this Super Powers send off as a big "Fuck You" by Toy Guru and Mattel to the people who have loyally followed this line for over six years.  More if you collected DCSH.  It's simply spite for THEIR fuck ups regarding this line.  Blaming us for it's ultimate failure.  ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on February 21, 2014, 08:52:11 am


Just because its "homage" to something, does not make it any less fucking horrible.  If I took a shit, in homage to the shit I took last time I shit, its still a shit. 
[/quote]



Ha!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on February 21, 2014, 08:54:59 am
I caught TG in a chatty mood.......


Hi TG,

Thanks for the TF announcement. Most of the figs aren't my cup of tea, but I will pick up Mxy and Carolina Blue Superman. I am so grateful they re coming. Long time wants.

I've been following the boards, and of course I'm aware of Mattels stated reason for cancelling DCUC. Price was becoming prohibitive, I agree.

I understand how the sub model allowed for lower tool'd figures to compensate for figures requiring higher tooling.

What I still don't get is the continued insistence the sub model is the only way DC figures could be sold online.

I'd be happy to pay sub prices for figures that require minimal tooling. Johnny Quick, Element Lad, Mr. Terrific come quickly to mind.

I remember how the 2 packs didn't do very well. However, we were buying 5+ waves a year at that time. It was far easier to skip some offerings at that point. I think the only online DCUC item that went for sale during "sub times" was the Legion pack. Fairly successful. With no sub or retail, 2 packs would draw much more attention.

For me, the cost was approaching being prohibitive, but mostly because I resented getting figures like Batzarro.

I remain convinced that if you put out demanded (and relatively low tool'd)figures and charged higher prices for day of sales, you'd be surprised the appetite for them.

If you charged what a figure costs for the amount of tooling at the low runs , why is a sub needed? There are those that would pay it. ****, I'm about to dish out $45 for Mxy with shipping and taxes.

There is a way to make this work. Truly there is.

A pre-sale with two tiers for price ($30 if we get so many customers, $25 if we get more) would be very interesting, no?
    
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We know what day of sales are for the past few years as well as sub sales. In the end the numbers just don't add up. We need a committed audience or "full year buy in" to still move forward.

Incidentally, this is no different from any other toy line for any other brand or company for retail too. Retailers are only shown a handful of figures to commit to a full year's worth of product (ie to carry the line for a year). When the DCU line moves online after retailers passed, the commitment for a year of product simply shifted from retailers commiting to carry, to fans directly willing to purchase. That is what happens on a high end low run collector line.

But really, the concept of viewing a small handful of prototypes and commiting to a full year of product is something that goes on with every toy line for every company. Without retailers willing to carry a line, Mattel is willing to continue producing, but only if a full year will be committed to, hence the sub sales. It is the only method that works.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on February 21, 2014, 09:54:16 am
This might be true, but somehow I'm pretty sure companies go out of their way to wow the retailers into buying lines (not with Batzarros and Green Riddlers) and don't tell them that it's their fault and that they should feel bad when they decide not to.

 :-\


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on February 21, 2014, 10:32:03 am
The problem is that collectors are too fickle in their character tastes and Mattel refused to recognise that. Instead of saying "OK you only want core characters in their best known costumes, here you go!" they said "Look everybody needs to be equally happy and unhappy or we're cancelling the line!"


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Stars on February 21, 2014, 01:25:42 pm
Not to mention the MASSIVE discounts retailers get. Retailers have the ability to drive down manufacturers to insanely low prices, which the retailers then upcharge to increase their profits. Retailer also decide what figures get in what assortment, and if the companies don't do as the retailers wish, then the retailer drops the line.

We sure as hell didn't have ANY say is pricing OR selection, so this is a non-truth... AGAIN.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 21, 2014, 04:40:03 pm
I'm still confused about the Matty website stuff like the Legion and 2-packs selling out....but they weren't successful.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on February 21, 2014, 05:34:22 pm
Duh, they didn't have Super Powers in them, so in TG's eyes they weren't any good.   ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 21, 2014, 05:37:39 pm
Duh, they didn't have Super Powers in them, so in TG's eyes they weren't any good.   ;)

It's weird as fuck if you ask me. Remember when people we're buying the Sinestro Corps 2-pack as they were good army building bases? Try finding that sucker now.

It's the same as Marvel Legends. I don't understand why Hasblo doesn't do another run of the Hand Ninja, SHIELD 2-packs? Those things sell for a crapton on ebay.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on February 21, 2014, 08:45:46 pm
I gave up trying to figure out mass retail toy companies a while back, really.   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on February 22, 2014, 01:30:51 am
I think there is always the impression that there is a huge market for high cost second hand figures but the reality is the base of people who need them and drive the prices so high is extremely small and plenty would pass at a reasonable price.

This was the best explanation ever given for the set up of the sub. Might have cleared things up if mentioned when it mattered, but I doubt it would have made a difference.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on February 22, 2014, 01:34:26 am
According to TG, Mxy was the first figure of the next sub had it gone through.

Can you even imagine the SHIT STORM of hate? Oh my god, we as a collective internet community would have absolutely went berserk at being forced to pay full price for a pack in. There's always the chance it would have in fact been a pack in with light blue Supes, which while it would have still generated some repaint complaints would have overall been okay I think, but on it's own? TG wouldn't be safe.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on February 23, 2014, 11:03:11 pm
Superboy hasn't officially gone up for sale yet, right?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 24, 2014, 06:55:42 am
Next month I think.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on February 24, 2014, 12:30:59 pm
Thanks Gard. People talk about getting figures early but not how they got 'em, and it fucks with my internal calendar.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on February 24, 2014, 08:57:46 pm

AFB:  [beer] We got koalas or some shit.





I can't remember the last time I laughed out loud so hard!!!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on February 25, 2014, 01:09:18 pm
I'll be over paying for Aquaman compared to the ebay prices, but I will hopefully be getting one. Or two. I love what I have seen of that figure and it was a major want for so long I may indulge in two just in case something is wrong with one of them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on February 25, 2014, 02:10:51 pm
Aquaman is up next month.  Superboy isn't until June.


Thanks. I want both, so I appreciate it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on March 17, 2014, 04:58:45 pm
Well all the teeth gnashing about the DCUC maybe selling out in early access was for naught.

Here we are hours after sell time and Hook hand Aquaman is not even "nearly gone".


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on March 17, 2014, 05:23:23 pm
Everyone is waiting for the Super Powers stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on March 17, 2014, 09:38:52 pm
Well I guess people are just over DCUC. Who wants to collect a dying line? The momentum is gone and people move on to current and exciting things. I was more worried about the Total Justice Green Lantern Corps since people have been embracing that line and had talked about getting multiples. Between that and the possibility of me being on the road all day I asked a friend to order them for me during Early Access.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 17, 2014, 11:10:25 pm
Huh, and now you can buy the full Watchmen set too.


Nice. I regret missing them so this is tempting.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on March 17, 2014, 11:14:36 pm
Huh, and now you can buy the full Watchmen set too.


Nice. I regret missing them so this is tempting.

"Buy us! Buuuuuy Ussss!"  ;D
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/WatchmenGroup-Front.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on March 18, 2014, 04:43:49 am
my worry is damion is at the end of the year so might not be in full production yet, aquaman not selling might mean son of the bats numbers are cut drastically and so some folk might miss out (im assuming he is the one most are after )


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 18, 2014, 05:01:21 am
I can't afford Aquaman at the moment. Though I want him.

Maybe if some of the crap I listed on ebay sells...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on March 18, 2014, 02:07:55 pm
I was in Toy Traders the other day (local toy shop. Google it- it's fantastic) and saw all 6 Watchmen figs clearanced for 19.99 each including all the packaging.

When I was there I saw the total heroes figs in person for the first time and somehow they look even worse in hand than in pics. No chance of me getting any of them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on March 18, 2014, 02:08:53 pm
Huh, and now you can buy the full Watchmen set too.


Nice. I regret missing them so this is tempting.

Fish, do I recall you being in BC? If so, Toy Traders is a good optioon for you getting these.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 18, 2014, 05:13:42 pm
Would someone be able to purchase an Aquaman for me and I can pay them in two weeks?

I owe the Taxman...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on March 18, 2014, 05:50:27 pm
Two word apply for this Aquaman for me.  Cyber Monday.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 18, 2014, 06:42:30 pm
Gotta have 'im but now is a really bad time...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on March 18, 2014, 06:59:33 pm
I bet JSay bought an armload of 'em.  Fuck.  I said Beetlejuice. ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on March 18, 2014, 09:40:12 pm
I purchased an Aquaman during the first 10 mins of Early Access.

I paid Fast Shipping (as it's the only tracked option).

It came to over $60 (!!!) Australian - I know, I know...

And the order is still "In Process" 6 days later.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on March 19, 2014, 05:38:39 am
When you paid for fast shipping, did you remember to pay for fast processing as well?  That's $10 extra


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on March 20, 2014, 12:03:43 am
Man. I wish I had the loot to scoop up Aquaman and the Watchmen. if they're still on by Friday when I get paid from my second job I will get Comedian, Rorschach, and Aquaman. Hook Hand is the only must have though.

And yeah, Damien is the one I am really worried about too. He could be tough to get. There may be a few other Damien figures between now and then to sate demand though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: bigraj on March 20, 2014, 10:43:41 pm
I completely forgot that "Hook-hand" Aquaman was on sale from Matty Collector earlier this week.  Glad there was still some available when I remembered a few minutes ago.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 20, 2014, 11:46:02 pm
When you paid for fast shipping, did you remember to pay for fast processing as well?  That's $10 extra

 :D

....and if you ask for someone competent at Digital River to process that order, well, you'll wake up in a bath of ice with something missing.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on March 21, 2014, 02:00:21 am
Choked down the 33 bucks for Aquaman. Feel bad for you guys who have international shipping.

Wish I had the money to buy the Watchmen too. Or even just Comedian and Rorschach as the shipping would have been a bit more tolorable and I want those figures but it's just not meant to be right now.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 22, 2014, 11:59:16 pm
Aquaman Showing 'almost gone'. Sure, not a same day sell out, but it did sell.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 23, 2014, 02:00:18 am
Got my Hook Aquaman for One dollar.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on March 23, 2014, 08:52:05 am
How did you manage that?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 23, 2014, 03:10:33 pm
I said if something on ebay sold, I'd be able to buy one. I sold an item I only purchased for a dollar, and purchased Aquaman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on March 23, 2014, 05:30:19 pm
"So what I told you was true....from a certain point of view."

(http://afcmin.org/ateam/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ben-kenobi-ghost2.gif)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 23, 2014, 05:35:25 pm
I fuckin' hate Star Wars quotes.  [gah] [thud] ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on March 23, 2014, 06:41:06 pm
[mwaha]  Shit.  That was funny.  Plus 1, Derek!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 23, 2014, 09:08:07 pm
I purchased an Aquaman during the first 10 mins of Early Access.

I paid Fast Shipping (as it's the only tracked option).

It came to over $60 (!!!) Australian - I know, I know...

And the order is still "In Process" 6 days later.


What's the update?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on March 23, 2014, 10:26:53 pm
Finally shipped out 7 days after the order was placed.

Such crap service.

And I get to go through it again for Ice, The Super Powers and Robin. Jusft release them together FFS.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on March 24, 2014, 12:25:33 pm
And Levere gets a big +1 for making me laugh.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on March 24, 2014, 02:16:12 pm
Finally shipped out 7 days after the order was placed.

Such crap service.

And I get to go through it again for Ice, The Super Powers and Robin. Jusft release them together FFS.

Anyone actually paying $30 each for that Supercrap deserves the hassle.  Just sayin


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on March 24, 2014, 03:53:24 pm
your logic is flawless. Premium pricing should always equate to shitty service.[rock]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 24, 2014, 06:26:33 pm
your logic is flawless. Premium pricing should always equate to shitty service.[rock]

I'll never buy a Lamborghini then because it'll come with a kick in the nuts.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on March 24, 2014, 07:17:16 pm
A KICK IN THE NUTS IZ WUT U DESRV 4 BUYIN STUFF YOU LIKE WITH MONEY YOU HAVE!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on March 24, 2014, 11:23:41 pm
Finally shipped out 7 days after the order was placed.

Such crap service.

And I get to go through it again for Ice, The Super Powers and Robin. Jusft release them together FFS.

Anyone actually paying $30 each for that Supercrap deserves the hassle.  Just sayin

Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to stop by and offer such invaluable input.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: RockoJerome on March 25, 2014, 10:43:54 am
I laughed out loud at that.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on March 25, 2014, 07:07:40 pm
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/02/DC-Universe-Super-Powers.png)

Alright, I want you to explain to me why ANY of these are worth $30.  Forget the fact that they're based off a show from 500 years ago that 10 people still care about....I'm talking value.  VALUE!  They are fucking REPAINTS!  And whats most ridiculous....they're not even GOOD REPAINTS!!!!!   [mwaha] [mwaha] [mwaha]  Does that really look like SP Kalibak to you?  No...it doesn't.  It that other multi shaded green figure the Riddler or Green Lantern?  I guess we'll never know.  And I know when I think Superman...I think red and gold.   Very iconic color scheme. 

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQD-IRl4TaXu4SZv-481botjKZd13Yi7798T9oWQi0qA7tOfmMO)

This is the best one.  A little teeny tiny hunk of unarticulated plastic.....$30.   [applause]  This is a blatant rip off that some people are actually excited about!  A pack in for full price!  FANFUCKINGTASTIC!

(http://www.actionfigurefury.com/wp-content/uploads/mattel-toy-fair-2014-dc-universe-super-powers.png)

And then we come to bunch that someone who has never touched paint, or customized a figure in their life could do for about $5 each. 

Any of you that actually buy these are enabling Mattel to give us more CRAP!  Unfortunately, that was all the sub was for the past two years......way too much money up front for sub par figures.  We got NOTHING in the two sub years where I thought "they could not have done any better than that on this figure".  NONE!  And what we were they?  $25?  I cannot believe anyone is going to give them $5 more per figure for a REPAINT!  No tooling....no sculpting....just paint!  Once these sell well, I can't WAIT to see how they rip us off next. 

You guys have NOTHING here.  You cannot intelligently defend them.  Go ahead and try. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on March 25, 2014, 07:56:49 pm
I'll most likely buy Superman Blue and Gold.  And I'll be damned happy to!*



*Probably


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 25, 2014, 08:03:38 pm
As a Universe builder, Mxy is the only one I care about. And no, I won't be getting it off Matty.

If you think Jersey vents here, try being an owl.  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on March 25, 2014, 08:55:25 pm
Thank you Jersey for posting those pics! I was considering doing it last night and didn't want to waste the space in my Photobucket :)

Yes I'm getting these and no they aren't worth it. I do however want the majority of them, and have a standing order on one of each from someone who collects every single figure regardless of price. Ordering two or more plus getting a few dollars for my efforts makes them worth my while.

Kalibak - do not want. He's getting sold and even if I only get $10 for him it's fine.

Gold Superman - yes I want this one. I've always thought the planned gold Super Powers figure was a dumb idea because no one would buy him. Over the years though I've seen kids go nuts for any color Superman or Batman. And I like variants of those two.

Riddler, or more properly Acertijo - probably one of Mattel's biggest mistakes. This goes beyond being a weird homage, it's just a an expensive joke. I can only hope that they will underproduce these to the extent that the rarity will make them actually valuable.

Mxyzptlk - we all need to be on the lookout for this one to show up cheap and help each other out ;)

Carolina Blue Superman - factory paint beats my paint any day. And it's a Superman variant. I want it.

Wonder Woman - same as above paintwise. Don't really need her ... but I need the Kalibak part ... we'll see

Batman - again, variant.

As for enabling ... the line is over. No sub because people couldn't deal with supporting the entire line instead of just their personal favorites. Oh well, I don't get the Legionnaires that were planned for next year. At least I'll get a few more fun figures to give myself a laugh.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on March 25, 2014, 09:37:11 pm
No, they are not worth the money.

No, there isn't value for the dollar there.

No, we actually don't disagree with you on those points.

Yes, we do take issue with the fact that you can't seem to write anything without being terminally pissed off, rendering your statements childish and pedantic.

I've actually been pretty nice since we moved over here Hyp.  Not in THIS thread, but just about all others.  You still don't have to like me or anything, but at least get your facts straight.

In reply to the rest of the above posts....as long as we can all agree they are not even CLOSE to worth the money, we can be done here.  Buy what makes you happy folks....even if it is a rip off.   ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 25, 2014, 10:10:30 pm
He's been downright corking in the Lego thread. I will vouch for that. But then, we've always gotten on.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: RockoJerome on March 25, 2014, 10:32:57 pm
Kalibak - do not want. He's getting sold and even if I only get $10 for him it's fine.

I do want. Totally worth 10 bucks to me. PM me if you want to talk turkey.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on March 26, 2014, 02:18:00 am
They are actually casting that Haldler with different color plastics and they nailed the paint job. I don't care about it, but I would argue for it's novelty and how well it was done, it's totally worth the money.

The others? Nope. But fuck it. Are they really worth 20 bucks? Is a Big Mac really worth 5 bucks? Is a pair of sneakers with a logo for a guy who hasn't played basketball in a relevant manner in almost two decades worth almost two bills? No. But fuck it. If you like it and you want it, it's there to buy.

Arguing about what this does for what Matty will make in the future is pointless because they're done with DC figs we care about anyway.

I will buy a Superman, Batman, Mr. M, and Wonder Woman.

I don't give two shits about that Haldler but I may have to buy it because it's kind of hilarious. Waiting to see it on the card to know for sure.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on March 26, 2014, 02:39:55 am
They'll have to paint the hair black to get it completely right ;)  I just think it's a pointless figure. Kalibak in brown is at least something people have asked for. If anyone asked for Acertijo even as a joke I'm sure it was in the $6.99 days. I'm sure that many more have asked for Capitán Rayo ... that's one I'd have no problem with!

I do want. Totally worth 10 bucks to me. PM me if you want to talk turkey.

I was thinking ebay with no minimum bid, but we'll see what my financial situation is at the time  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 26, 2014, 02:55:10 am
I might buy Supes, and Batman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 26, 2014, 06:34:20 pm
What is the release schedule for the remaining Signature Series figures?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on March 28, 2014, 03:03:43 am
Well now. Aquaman has finally sold out.

Total Heroes Green Lantern Corps on the other hand is "No Longer Available".


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 28, 2014, 03:24:44 am
Glad to see Aquaman sell out.

We have Superboy in June. When are the other two released?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on March 28, 2014, 08:40:45 am
No shot it sold out.  Cyber monday folks.....cyber monday. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on March 28, 2014, 11:37:30 am
If the stick to the others being "Quarterly" it'll be September and December or thereabouts.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on March 28, 2014, 05:34:48 pm
Fwoosh just did an Ice review so I'm sure she's next.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on March 29, 2014, 12:27:15 am
I wish that Superboy didn't suck. No way I am paing thirty bucks for that thing. Even if I do like the character.

*Bet I buy it anyway*


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 29, 2014, 12:30:52 am
I can't wait to drop thirty bucks on Superboy.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on March 29, 2014, 04:56:58 pm
I'm not interested in superbly,ice or robin so I can say hook aquaman is the last of my Dcuc collecting.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 29, 2014, 05:40:53 pm
At least it ended with a good figure for you then. Can't wait for mine to arrive.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on March 29, 2014, 08:20:04 pm
it really is a good figure.more attention given to detail then usual.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 29, 2014, 08:38:56 pm
Glad to hear. Just wish we had gotten a full Morrison Big Seven. Though we did get close.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on March 29, 2014, 09:28:32 pm
So, so close!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 29, 2014, 09:42:29 pm
I wish we had gotten Classic Kyle Rayner, Classic Huntress and Connor Hawke Green Arrow.

But I 'm glad we got what we did.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 31, 2014, 02:47:01 pm
My Hookquaman arrived today. Great figure, but the action hair puzzles me a bit.

Oh well, Arthur's Morrison Badassery makes up for it. Though I wish the harpoon hand could turn.

Might have to do a team shot of The Morrison League such as it is.

Mullet Superman or Electro Supes?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 31, 2014, 05:27:00 pm
My Hookquaman arrived today. Great figure, but the action hair puzzles me a bit.

Oh well, Arthur's Morrison Badassery makes up for it. Though I wish the harpoon hand could turn.

Might have to do a team shot of The Morrison League such as it is.

Mullet Superman or Electro Supes?

Mullet.

Though standing next to Aquaman may give him an inferiority complex.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 31, 2014, 05:41:06 pm
Anybody got a list of everybody who was a part of the Morrison League?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on March 31, 2014, 09:13:52 pm
A great idea, but Mattel never did an Aztec, so you're kinda screwed I think...  ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 31, 2014, 09:40:51 pm
Or Zauriel, sadly.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on March 31, 2014, 09:47:32 pm
Too true, my friend... You can always use the Total Justice one...  :o


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on March 31, 2014, 09:50:44 pm
Ah Total Justice...... Loved the sculpts but hated the execution and action stances that didnt allow for logical posing.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 31, 2014, 09:53:41 pm
Too true, my friend... You can always use the Total Justice one...  :o

He'd be way out of scale, I don't have a loose one, and I prefer the first outfit.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 31, 2014, 09:54:33 pm
Ah Total Justice...... Loved the sculpts but hated the execution and action stances that didnt allow for logical posing.

Total Justice should have been Super Powers 2.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on March 31, 2014, 10:55:53 pm
Let's see if memory serves:

Big 7
Superman (Mullet/Electric Blue/Electric Red/Clean Cut)
Batman (Black, Black and Gray, or Dark Blue and Gray? - Never could figure it out - Oval shield a must though)
Wonder Woman (Diana)
Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
Flash (Wally West)
Aquaman (Hook)
Martian Manhunter (Classic!)

Later Additions
Aztek
Green Arrow (Connor Hawke)
Wonder Woman (Hippolyta)

Next 7
Oracle
Big Barda
Orion
Zauriel
Plastic Man
Huntress (pre-Jim Lee hoochie outfit)
Steel (crooked hammer, squared-S look)

Debatable
Catwoman (Purple)
Atom (Ray Palmer)
Antaeus (or something like that)
Moon Maiden



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 01, 2014, 07:21:37 am
http://cosmicteams.com/jla/jlafaq02.html#field


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 01, 2014, 08:20:00 am
I think I'd toss in Tomorrow Woman and Hourman III.  The DCD versions are at least somewhat compatible with DCUC.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 01, 2014, 05:53:12 pm
I was really hoping HOURMAN would show up in the sub.   :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on April 01, 2014, 06:33:04 pm
Robot Hourman looked cool. I have the DCD one. Might put it in the team pic, not sure.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on April 01, 2014, 08:08:18 pm
Ah, can't believe I forgot Tomorrow Woman.  Did Hourman III actually join the JLA as a recurring member?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on April 01, 2014, 08:51:05 pm
I think so, for a little while, but deffinitely a member...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 01, 2014, 10:22:10 pm
Ah, can't believe I forgot Tomorrow Woman.  Did Hourman III actually join the JLA as a recurring member?

I had to look it up.  [think]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on April 05, 2014, 10:10:00 am
Ah Total Justice...... Loved the sculpts but hated the execution and action stances that didnt allow for logical posing.

Total Justice should have been Super Powers 2.

Yeah it should have been.  I kind of considered the JL/JLU series to take that place until they started doing far too many weird costume variants.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on April 05, 2014, 04:26:34 pm
JLU was actually Secret Wars II.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on April 08, 2014, 03:41:47 pm
JLU was actually Secret Wars II.

You go to hell!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on April 08, 2014, 04:33:58 pm
No, think about it.

Secret Wars reused body bucks and relied on deco to make up the difference.

Secret Wars had 5 poa

Both were made by Mattel. It makes a stronger case than any other.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on April 08, 2014, 07:46:32 pm
Secret Wars had vehicles and playsets.  JLU had bump-n-go cycles and nothing else (and it breaks my heart).

Super Powers was Kenner's Secret Wars.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on April 08, 2014, 07:48:38 pm
The Javelin and Watchtower don't count?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on April 08, 2014, 07:54:59 pm
Thought those came before the line switched to JLU.  Maybe I'm incorrect.  Both good ones, though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on April 08, 2014, 08:32:09 pm
I consider one a continuation of the other much like Batman to DCSH to DCUC to Signature Series


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 25, 2014, 02:29:05 pm
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/afis-9th-anniversary-scoop-week-day-5-mattels-dcucdcsc-super-powers-card-proof/

Gives a new perspective to the entire line.  Looks to be one long excuse to do Super Powers.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on April 25, 2014, 09:15:37 pm
The card looks great, appropriate for most of those figures. This is exactly what I thought they should have done years ago as a store exclusive, Super Powers figures in Super Powers packaging so that people who liked that line could have those decos in nostalgia packaging. They probably could have gotten an era-appropriate Batmobile to retail that way too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on April 26, 2014, 12:51:33 pm
They probably could have gotten an era-appropriate Batmobile to retail that way too.

That would have gotten me excited.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 26, 2014, 06:35:59 pm
They probably could have gotten an era-appropriate Batmobile to retail that way too.

That would have gotten me excited.

Seconded.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on April 29, 2014, 05:43:33 pm
I came across the Marvel Legends SpiderMan 2 action figure today on the pegs.

The BAF is some kind of steroided up Green Goblin. It looks like it could be an excellent base for a "unleashed" Doomsday figure for you customizer types.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on May 13, 2014, 08:43:47 pm
On ebay now.  Almost here..

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s546/Kal_zor/Batman_zpsfb646e03.jpg) (http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Kal_zor/media/Batman_zpsfb646e03.jpg.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on May 13, 2014, 10:50:06 pm
I would have loved these in 6" scale! The tiny figures do nothing for me though :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 14, 2014, 12:33:11 am
I came across the Marvel Legends SpiderMan 2 action figure today on the pegs.

The BAF is some kind of steroided up Green Goblin. It looks like it could be an excellent base for a "unleashed" Doomsday figure for you customizer types.

Yeah, it's a rehashed Hulk figure.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on May 14, 2014, 03:01:45 pm
I would have loved these in 6" scale! The tiny figures do nothing for me though :)

It's the old DC Direct philosophy of creating something people want, in a way they don't want it.

Marketing geniuses! All of them!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on May 15, 2014, 02:03:42 pm
Not much confidance in Cyborg at retail I guess, though I guess all the extras here could be SDCC exclusive and eventually they will release a bare bones version at retail.

And that Batmobile is surprising. Lots of features and pretty pricey for an exclusive.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 15, 2014, 07:01:37 pm
I assume Batmobile is for the 4" figures?

So many Cyborg figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: LukeyLuke on May 16, 2014, 09:32:11 pm
Yeah, that Batmobile is for the 4" line. I don't hate the 4" line, the Bane and Mr. Freeze I have are great little toys. this Batmobile is really nice, that price though.....too much for me right now.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on May 21, 2014, 05:09:21 pm
(http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r735/Mesozoic25/20140509_140801_zps7901fdf7.jpg)

I think Kenner did better Keaton sculpts than that.   [mwaha]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on May 21, 2014, 07:06:04 pm
Yeah I picked those up with Zod today as well.  The unmasked Keaton is horrendous.
And Zod looks more like Jack O'Halloran


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 22, 2014, 09:46:19 pm
Oh dear! That just didn't work did it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on May 23, 2014, 03:02:49 am
People are buying them, that's all Mattel cares about!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on May 30, 2014, 02:08:44 pm
It's so great that this man was able to fulfill most of his dreams using our money.

It really warms my cold, tiny heart a little bit. But there's no need to thank us Scott Nigh... Nichl... Nighlichjj (or whatever you spell it), and no reason to do it either.

After all, it was us in our selfishness and greed that prevented the line for carrying on and kept you from all your other dreams, like some more cool repaints, or toys based on the 1997 Justice League series pilot, or whatever other crap you like. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 30, 2014, 03:06:05 pm
 [banghead]

Just as tone deaf as ever...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on May 30, 2014, 06:49:18 pm
So Scott started collecting DC Comics with the Death of Superman bandwagon huh?






Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on May 30, 2014, 09:15:37 pm
I hate Scott so much.
Shame that I kind of dig the box, though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on May 30, 2014, 09:45:52 pm
I wonder if he's disappointed that the skin-tight, vein-showing prison outfit on the figure doesn't match the baggy one from his first comic :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on May 31, 2014, 08:30:28 am
I'm happy with the figure other than the size. It's HUGE. Still buying it though. Doomsday has been shown at a bunch of different heights and I always like Superman villains big. Hope we get the unleashed one someday but I'd have chose this out of the two simply because it hasn't been done.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on June 02, 2014, 06:54:18 am
I would have bought as part of the sub -- but it's never been a figure I wanted, so whatever. And Thanks Scott for making one lone female Legionnaire -- and a shitty version to boot. But I'm not bitter.  [tap]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on June 09, 2014, 07:43:56 am
Yeah, it
It's so great that this man was able to fulfill most of his dreams using our money.

It really warms my cold, tiny heart a little bit. But there's no need to thank us Scott Nigh... Nichl... Nighlichjj (or whatever you spell it), and no reason to do it either. 

Same here.  There's a part of me that thinks "Aw, that's really nice"

But at the same time I think of how much better it would have been if this were the SDCC exclusive and the version that everyone (except Scooter) actually wanted was on Matty.  Or better yet, if it was available as a CNC at retail as part of an entire wave.

Between this and Hordak, I'm pretty happy that I don't need to spend money on Matty after SDCC, end of Summer is always my toughest time of the year, financially.  Of course Hasbro had to go and F that up by actually making an ML exclusive that I want.

That Super Powers Superman looks nice though.  It will be nice to finally get the Superman we should have had since the beginning of the fucking line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: bigraj on June 16, 2014, 11:10:56 am
Ordered Ice today.  Hated paying so much for her (I can ship the same figure to someone else in the US through Priority Mail for $3 less), but I think she's the last DCUC I order from them, so that eases the pain somewhat.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on June 16, 2014, 09:51:37 pm
I like how it's the one we've all be waiting for.....delivered in a way that means most of us won't be able to get it.

Cunts.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on June 17, 2014, 01:20:49 am
I feel so bad. A friend of mine ordered Ice for me during early access and it took him so long he was too late for the Baby Skeletor he wanted. And Ice is still available :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on June 17, 2014, 01:34:38 am
Hasn't Ice been available on eBay from China for months?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on June 17, 2014, 01:56:06 am
I never saw one with her ice accessory.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on June 17, 2014, 02:12:17 am
Ah, OK


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on June 17, 2014, 07:39:12 am
Ordered Ice, and picked up the Total Heroes Black Manta  - for research purposes.....


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on June 17, 2014, 08:07:09 am
To research how he looks beside Total Heroes Aquaman?  ;) I'm not judging. I own TH Aquaman too.  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on June 17, 2014, 08:29:25 am
To research how he looks beside Total Heroes Aquaman?  ;) I'm not judging. I own TH Aquaman too.  :D

For the podcast, man. I have do my due diligence. ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on June 17, 2014, 01:09:45 pm
Just like Nu, I can't bring myself to give them money for this crapola. It only encourages them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on June 18, 2014, 12:34:51 am
I find it really strange that Total Heroes John Stewart, Black Manta and Cyborg are all non-retail exclusives. Yes, DCUC Cyborg was a failure at retail but John Stewart and Black Manta sold fairly well.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on June 18, 2014, 12:22:24 pm
DCUC Cyborg was a failure? If that's true, it's no wonder we didn't see team characters make it to the shelves outside of the Justice League (and Super Friends  [banghead])


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on June 18, 2014, 08:20:10 pm
DCC has given Cyborg quite a bit of attention over the past few years with 3 figures and a bust. They will also be releasing a statue and yet another figure later this year, so maybe he is a decent seller in most regions.

It's in Geoff Johns' contract.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on June 18, 2014, 08:39:46 pm
There's also the Artfx statue, and the Kai arts variant thing.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on June 18, 2014, 08:46:06 pm
Completely forgot about Ice. She still available from China? No way I'm paying that much for such a terrible figure.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: eddie3429 on June 19, 2014, 03:46:54 am
60's 6" bat mobile is at big w ! 88 now, 75 during the toy sale next week


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on June 27, 2014, 06:32:49 pm
Just found this at Target
(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s546/Kal_zor/100_2726_zps2659c3f4.jpg) (http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Kal_zor/media/100_2726_zps2659c3f4.jpg.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on June 27, 2014, 07:59:08 pm
What's the verdict?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on June 27, 2014, 08:41:00 pm
Shoddy paint, sculpt could use work and is a definite step down from the prototype, needs the hell out of some bicep swivel and a better ball-joint head.  Overall, I still love it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on June 27, 2014, 09:08:16 pm
Perfect review!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on June 27, 2014, 10:27:18 pm
I saw the Keaton Batman and Devito Penguin. Batman is passable, but anybody who has a collection of Kenner Batman Returns figures needs to ditch the Super Powers Repaint and replace it ASAP.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on June 27, 2014, 11:57:22 pm
60's 6" bat mobile is at big w ! 88 now, 75 during the toy sale next week

I'm not hearing a lot of people say it's worth $75.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on June 28, 2014, 02:11:40 am
60's 6" bat mobile is at big w ! 88 now, 75 during the toy sale next week

I'm not hearing a lot of people say it's worth $75.

I really like the idea of it, but when I had it in my hands I couldn't buy it. I didn't realise that the doors don't even open.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on June 28, 2014, 02:27:41 am
I think that Batmobile is a great prop. It's incredibly detailed and the paint is near-perfect. It does however feel very cheap in-hand. As a toy, the 2003 Batmobile is much better.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on July 02, 2014, 02:02:21 am
It's one of the few toys I just can't open so I really can't say how good it is in hand. I'm happy I got it though. Love the car!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on July 02, 2014, 07:06:44 am
60's 6" bat mobile is at big w ! 88 now, 75 during the toy sale next week

I'm not hearing a lot of people say it's worth $75.

I really like the idea of it, but when I had it in my hands I couldn't buy it. I didn't realise that the doors don't even open.

Same. Had it in my hands, couldn't pull the trigger.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: 78t-topps on July 02, 2014, 07:50:29 pm
60's 6" bat mobile is at big w ! 88 now, 75 during the toy sale next week

I'm not hearing a lot of people say it's worth $75.

I really like the idea of it, but when I had it in my hands I couldn't buy it. I didn't realise that the doors don't even open.

Same. Had it in my hands, couldn't pull the trigger.

I had bought it when it was 100 bucks , I still like it and it is a good prop

my 60's Batman...


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/SilverAgeBatman5.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/SilverAgeBatman5.jpg.html)


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/SilverAgeBatman1.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/SilverAgeBatman1.jpg.html)


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/66Batmobile2_zps545336bc.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/66Batmobile2_zps545336bc.jpg.html)


What's Batman without Robin?


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/Robin60s.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/Robin60s.jpg.html)


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/Robin60s3.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/Robin60s3.jpg.html)


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/Dynamicduo60s.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/Dynamicduo60s.jpg.html)


of course now I have to build the Batcave  ;) and add some lights and maybe even sound to the Batmobile......ah the life of a customizer :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Sad Violin on July 21, 2014, 01:36:44 pm
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b121/levere/12_Inch_DC_Figures__scaled_800.jpg)

Yeah, MATTEL will sell TONS of those!  [cuckoo]

SV


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on July 21, 2014, 04:21:58 pm
12" tall, 5 points of articulation, DCnU

probably $30 each


yeah, total pass.

That Joker and Batman aren't DCnU, are they?

12" with no elbow and knee articulation? Ridiculous.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 21, 2014, 04:29:57 pm
But it's a new form factor.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on July 21, 2014, 05:30:14 pm
I don't like 12" figures and I'm not a fan of Total Heroes articulation, so no. Would kids like these?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 21, 2014, 06:00:36 pm
Kids with bad taste.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 21, 2014, 06:37:20 pm
As a kid these would have been fun....as an adult collector, not so much.

I guess that's why we have Sideshow and Hot Toys.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on July 21, 2014, 08:44:40 pm
So close to being done with this hobby.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on July 21, 2014, 09:27:00 pm
I didn't notice the shiny colors when I looked at this on my phone, wow those are crappy. Wonder if they smell toxic.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 21, 2014, 10:03:44 pm
It kind of looks like they have elbow articulation, but does it really even matter?  Pretty damned craptacular.

I guess I can't really complain...DCD and DCUC have given me a shit ton of characters I wanted over the years, so I guess I have to expect a lot of garbage to come along with it.  Still....it's disappointing to see our hobby turn into explosive diarrhea that glows and melts through stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 21, 2014, 11:14:03 pm
Isn't this just DC's equivalent of:

(http://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/imageid-1738285.jpg)

I'm not a fan, but the boy has a few.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 21, 2014, 11:25:04 pm
I have a bunch of money that Mattel has no idea how to take from me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on July 22, 2014, 03:03:37 am
Isn't this just DC's equivalent of:

(http://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/imageid-1738285.jpg)

I'm not a fan, but the boy has a few.

Wow - two different shades of green on the one limb - it could be a Mattel product.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kalzor on July 22, 2014, 07:58:21 am
I kind of like the Superman, but it'll depend on the price point.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 22, 2014, 06:51:17 pm
If those DC figs do have some articulation (more than the titans) then I could see them being good custom bases for oversized characters.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 22, 2014, 10:27:14 pm
I'm having a hard time figuring out WHO though.

That's because you're in the DC Universe.

For me it'd be The Stranger, Eternity, The Living Tribunal, Goliath (T'bolts), etc, etc.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on July 23, 2014, 09:24:18 pm
Good ol' Matty, still comin' through in the clutch:

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/darthfoley/batgirl66_zps76eb1e86.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/darthfoley/3pack1_zps09588e76.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/darthfoley/3pack_zpsc277ba47.jpg)

Here's your '66 Batgirl.  You don't mind paying 50 bucks for her, right?

 ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on July 23, 2014, 09:50:38 pm
Urgh


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 23, 2014, 10:39:06 pm
Good ol' Mattel. Finger on the pulse  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on July 23, 2014, 11:23:49 pm
I'd rather have batgirl with her bat cycle for fifty bucks then two figures I already have .reminds me of Hasbro with their Han Greedos set.Idjits.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 23, 2014, 11:30:18 pm
So fucking glad I never bought Batman & Robin for my Batmobile!  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 24, 2014, 09:09:09 pm
Hrrrrm.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on July 24, 2014, 09:13:44 pm
So are we getting a single card Robin?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Polarboy on July 24, 2014, 09:26:40 pm
Might be the wrong place to ask but is the supergirl nu52 figure out yet? and I suppose if not do we know when?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 24, 2014, 10:05:29 pm
Might be the wrong place to ask but is the supergirl nu52 figure out yet? and I suppose if not do we know when?

If you mean the DC Collectables one, then I don't believe so.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on July 24, 2014, 10:08:20 pm
So are we getting a single card Robin?
So are we getting a single card Robin?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on July 25, 2014, 06:45:23 am
So are we getting a single card Robin?
So are we getting a single card Robin?


If you mean a single carded Batman TV Robin, no. Just the three-pack. Only way to get Batgirl.  :P


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on July 25, 2014, 06:48:12 am
I think the 12" figures are great at that price for the kids market - which should be catered for. Not everything can be / has to be collector-focused.

Putting this up as the DC offerings at SDCC, though? That's rough.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on July 25, 2014, 09:20:52 am
I'd rather have batgirl with her bat cycle for fifty bucks then two figures I already have .reminds me of Hasbro with their Han Greedos set.Idjits.

Same here, but I wasn't impressed with Batman and Robin, so at least I don't have to double-dip.  That Batgirl isn't a spectacular sculpt, but the colors are nice -- and it's likely to be the only Yvonne Craig Batgirl we'll be seeing for a while.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on July 25, 2014, 09:58:25 am
Especially at SDCC!

It's the largest comic collector-oriented venue there is, so why show toys aimed at children while saying, essentially, "The collector market is there, but this is as close as we want to come to supplying them with any product.".

I don't see how the venue/event is relevant to the point you're trying to make. Exclusivity and niche markets are not a prerequisite, as far as I'm aware.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on July 25, 2014, 10:00:59 am
I'd rather have batgirl with her bat cycle for fifty bucks then two figures I already have .reminds me of Hasbro with their Han Greedos set.Idjits.

For some reason Mattel screwed collectors with the Hot Wheels Batgirl motorcycle as well. Only came as a three pack with the Batmobile and Batcycle.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on July 29, 2014, 03:10:09 pm
Not sure how reliable this is, but....No Online Doomsday.
Quote
Mattel Announces ‘After Party’ Online Sale for Comic-Con Exclusives [UDPATE - Sale Times]

If you couldn’t make it to San Diego Comic-Con, or weren’t able to grab some of your favorite exclusives from the show floor, you may not have to turn to Ebay just yet. Many companies have turned to offering their leftover Comic-Con exclusives online after the show is over. Whether you believe that takes away from the “exclusive” aspect of it or not, it does give some fans a second (or third, or fourth) chance to grab what they missed out on.
Mattel has just announced that it will be offering a limited amount of SDCC exclusives to fans in a special “After Party” online sale, starting on Monday, August 4, for Early Access members. Whatever doesn’t sell out will then be open to all access sales on Tuesday, August 5. Once we have exact times, we’ll update.
[UPDATE] Mattel has announced the exact on sale times:
Early Access: Monday, 8/4 from 8 a.m. PT to Tuesday, 8/5 at 8 a.m. PT (subscribers only)
All Access: Tuesday, 8/5 at 9 a.m. PT (everyone)
Ends: Monday, 8/11 11:59 p.m. PT
So just what will be included in the sale? Mattel will be offering DC Comics Total Heroes™ Ultra Cyborg ($25), Monster High® Manny Taur™ & Iris Clops™ ($40), Turbo Charged Max Steel® w/Weaponized Steel ($20), and MOTUC Hordak® with Imp ($30). Here’s a look at those exclusives:
Turbo Charged Max Steel® w/Weaponized Steel
Turbo Charged Max Steel® w/Weaponized Steel
MOTUC Hordak® with Imp
MOTUC Hordak® with Imp
DC Comics Total Heroes™ Ultra Cyborg
DC Comics Total Heroes™ Ultra Cyborg

Monster High® Manny Taur™ & Iris Clops™
Monster High® Manny Taur™ & Iris Clops™

Sold out are the Darth Vader die-cast car, Masters of the Universe Goat Man, Ever After High Cerise Wolf, Hot Wheels The Homer car, Hot Wheels Aston Martin James Bond car, DCU Classics Doomsday, Batman Arkham Knight Batmobile, and the Disney-Pixar Cars Neon Racers Gift Pack. You can find information about all of those exclusives in our guide to Mattel’s 2014 Comic-Con exclusives.
Will you be trying to grab any of these in the “After Party” sale?
Guess I won't be trying to grab something I can't.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on July 29, 2014, 03:29:36 pm
The Matty website doesn't say anything about it being sold out.

Posted today:

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2014/07/29/2014-sdcc-after-party-sale-get-products-from-the-show/

Quote
Couldn’t make it San Diego Comic-Con? Here’s your chance to get a few of the products fans were able to purchase at the show. Early Access and All Access dates and times are right here…

Early Access: Monday, 8/4 from 8 a.m. PT to Tuesday, 8/5 at 8 a.m. PT (subscribers only)
All Access: Tuesday, 8/5 at 9 a.m. PT (everyone)
Ends: Monday, 8/11 11:59 p.m. PT

DC Comics Total Heroes™ Ultra Cyborg ($25)
DCU Classics Doomsday ($35)
Turbo Charged Max Steel® w/Weaponized Steel ($20)
Monster High® Manny Taur™ & Iris Clops™ 2-Pack ($40)
MOTUC Hordak® with Imp 2-pack ($30)

If you see products you want, grab ‘em, because quantities are limited! All products are subject to sell-out to subscribers during Early Access* on Monday 8/4. Any remaining products will be available to everyone starting Tuesday 8/5 at 9:00 a.m. PT.

Early Access is a subscriber-only benefit through our clubs. Not a subscriber? Make sure you have the chance to purchase hot items like these and many more before non-subscribers in 2015. Get your Club Eternia® subscription today!

Want to make sure you get all our updates and product info? Click here to register for email. Or, join us on Facebook, Twitter, Google+, and in our Fan Forums and you’ll get reminders there, too. And don’t forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel for sneak peeks and more!

That's good. Wasn't sure how reliable the other story was. But it wouldn't surprise me either way.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on July 29, 2014, 06:08:48 pm
Unless they made about 5 of these, no way it doesn't make it to their Black Friday sale.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on July 29, 2014, 08:36:26 pm
There's nothing there worth having.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 29, 2014, 11:06:25 pm
 [exactly]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 30, 2014, 01:53:51 am
The fact that Doomsday didn't sell out just proves Toy Guru right.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on August 09, 2014, 11:43:37 pm
Not a peep about no Doomsdays being available. You know our enthusiasm is gone when no one of us has complained.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 10, 2014, 01:55:52 am
Not a peep about no Doomsdays being available. You know our enthusiasm is gone when no one of us has complained.

Did he actually go up for sale? Matty has him as "Sold out".


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on August 10, 2014, 04:08:49 am
Yup - he went up for sale. I bought one in the first 5 minutes of Early Access and 6 days later the order is yet to ship.

Well done Digital River - well done.

I also paid for Fast Shipping...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on August 15, 2014, 04:47:03 am
So - Doomsday arrived. And the neck peg is broken - actually came out of the torso. I wasn't all that fussed about the figure - and now can I be bothered even chasing for a replacement? Fuck I am just sick of this useless company.

On a side note - you cannot tell me with all those cables and crap that the real Doomsday could have been cost-prohibitive to produce compared to this version.

What a joke.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 15, 2014, 06:35:52 am
So - Doomsday arrived. And the neck peg is broken - actually came out of the torso. I wasn't all that fussed about the figure - and now can I be bothered even chasing for a replacement? Fuck I am just sick of this useless company.

On a side note - you cannot tell me with all those cables and crap that the real Doomsday could have been cost-prohibitive to produce compared to this version.

What a joke.



Ugh. What a pain!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 15, 2014, 07:10:45 pm
....and that right there is Mattel's swan song.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 15, 2014, 07:13:08 pm
....and that right there is Mattel's swan song.

Seeing photos to the contrary shake. May or may not be real. But given what a potential perceived F U to certain folks it might be, I'm leaning toward real.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/15/c3161210ce73c221fa377ae1db521b53.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 15, 2014, 09:04:28 pm
....and that right there is Mattel's swan song.

Seeing photos to the contrary shake. May or may not be real. But given what a potential perceived F U to certain folks it might be, I'm leaning toward real.

It's real, but they aren't releasing it. He says it was just a mock-up.

Quote from: toyguru
This is a mock up we put together to show internally and to our licensor partners what "could have been" a package idea had the sub sold. The sculpt as you recall was shown at Sdcc and we still have it of course! We often do test proof of concepts but try to always avoid showing them to prevent and incorrect info or jumping to conclusions.

We'd of course have loved to do this for the sub or Sdcc but alas the sub did not hit the numbers we needed!

Thanks for clarifying levere.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on August 15, 2014, 10:30:41 pm
Mock up my ass. That things tooled and casted in plastic. NOT a hand painted resin sculpt.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 15, 2014, 10:38:45 pm
So if we'd gotten the subscription -- thanks a lot you "I only want MY favorite characters to be made" jerks! -- we would have gotten this figure ... in white packaging. I'm sure then that the figure we actually got -- in black packaging -- would still have been the SDCC exclusive.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 16, 2014, 05:41:46 am
I just want them all to die in the face and go away now.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on August 16, 2014, 07:13:18 am
(http://www.philebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/thatsallfolks.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 16, 2014, 01:25:07 pm
MATTEL:   You should have wanted what we told you to want!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: KOLOBOSREXX on August 20, 2014, 05:59:58 pm
...Just announced today!! Unleashed Doomsday WILL be sold as a standalone, "final Four Horsemen DC product", coming this winter!!!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 20, 2014, 06:07:45 pm
So special.  It might actually have saved the sub.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 20, 2014, 06:15:20 pm
Gawwwwwwwwwd.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on August 20, 2014, 06:19:23 pm
Wow


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on August 20, 2014, 06:43:16 pm
Mattel lied?

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/darthfoley/jack_zps378a2a5f.gif)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on August 20, 2014, 06:43:31 pm
I won't buy it simply because I'm sick of that bastard's fucking lies.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 20, 2014, 06:46:51 pm
This is unbelievably shitty.  Even for a company that has turned shitty into an art form.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 20, 2014, 07:16:03 pm
It's a move filled with deperation.  Scott may well be out of a job in 2016.  Everything outside of MotU has crashed and burned on Mattycollector.com.  In spite of him constantly blaming fans for the failure of DCUC and related lines, ultimately, he is responcible.  It was on his watch that the line crashed.  His constant hard on for Superpowers/Friends, GLC, fucking Deputy/Rainbow Lanterns, and even some characters I love (morts) mixed in killed the line.  Not the fact that we weren't loyal enough to buy shit we weren't interested in.

He pulls this shit out of his ass and expects us to not be cynical.  Fuck him.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on August 20, 2014, 07:18:48 pm
I don't even know what to say.  I just finished selling off most of DCUC, because I was sick of looking at them.  A constant reminder that they made my most wanted figure since it started, and released a green condom instead.  And now its coming anyway, and I'm suppose to be excited about it? 

I lost count long ago of how many times I've had to say this, but heres another big FUCK YOU to Mattel and everyone who works there, right down the janitor.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on August 20, 2014, 07:20:08 pm
He's flat out lied through his teeth since that pic showed up.  Fuck that piece of shit.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 20, 2014, 07:41:43 pm
DC stands for Definitely Cursed.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on August 20, 2014, 10:17:10 pm
Never out the cart before the horse.

That goes for everybody, not just Nutlick.

I need to get Superboy and Damian.

When are they coming?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on August 20, 2014, 11:26:03 pm
Would have this year's DC infinite earths sub gone through if the regular Doomsday was made available as part of a regular release?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on August 21, 2014, 12:42:11 am
I doubt it. The line didn't live or die on one character decision alone.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 21, 2014, 12:47:47 am
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w422/LadyHilarious/oh_gif.gif) (http://s1075.photobucket.com/user/LadyHilarious/media/oh_gif.gif.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 21, 2014, 01:25:24 am
Lots of people said they would have subscribed if regular Doomsday had been the bonus figure. They're still saying it. I'm not sure how much that would have helped but I'm sure the numbers would have been much higher.

The thing is, some of the sub figures sucked and Matty / TG just weren't listening when people said they only wanted A-list characters. That last year, I'm sure they were leftover retail figures but the next year would have probably consisted of the quarterlies, Red Lantern Mera, the couple of Legionnaires that the 4H talked about and some New 52 crap.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 21, 2014, 03:33:15 am
(http://www.hercampus.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_embed/public/2013/11/30/eye%20roll_0.jpg?itok=nj4FXKAn)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: bigraj on August 21, 2014, 04:11:18 am
I doubt it. The line didn't live or die on one character decision alone.

He very likely gets plenty of the people that were almost there, but ultimately didn't sign up due to the "threat" of Shrink-Wrap Doomsday.  I really hate Mattel sometimes, mainly with how they've handled the DC license the last few years.  I've been wanting a larger Doomsie (not as large as this guy probably is) for years, but I doubt I'll get this figure.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 21, 2014, 06:46:14 am
I'm still convinced that Mattel could bring back DCUC tomorrow.  Lose the C&C.  Drop the ab crunch, thigh pivot, and lateral hip for tooling costs.  Condense the packaging (it's amazing how much packaging adds to a products price).  And concentrate on JLA, JSA, and Teen Titans members, villians, and associates.  Forget about the G-D Super Powers/Friends. 

And get rid of Scott.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 21, 2014, 07:13:08 am
I'm still convinced that Mattel could bring back DCUC tomorrow.  Lose the C&C.  Drop the ab crunch, thigh pivot, and lateral hip for tooling costs.  Condense the packaging (it's amazing how much packaging adds to a products price).  And concentrate on JLA, JSA, and Teen Titans members, villians, and associates.  Forget about the G-D Super Powers/Friends. 

And get rid of Scott.

(http://www.hercampus.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_embed/public/2013/11/30/eye%20roll_0.jpg?itok=nj4FXKAn)

 ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 21, 2014, 07:50:21 am
I'm still convinced that Mattel could bring back DCUC tomorrow.  Lose the C&C.  Drop the ab crunch, thigh pivot, and lateral hip for tooling costs.  Condense the packaging (it's amazing how much packaging adds to a products price).  And concentrate on JLA, JSA, and Teen Titans members, villians, and associates.  Forget about the G-D Super Powers/Friends. 

And get rid of Scott.

(http://www.hercampus.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_embed/public/2013/11/30/eye%20roll_0.jpg?itok=nj4FXKAn)

 ;)

I didn't mean YOU!  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 21, 2014, 07:58:31 am
I'm still convinced that Mattel could bring back DCUC tomorrow.  Lose the C&C.  Drop the ab crunch, thigh pivot, and lateral hip for tooling costs.  Condense the packaging (it's amazing how much packaging adds to a products price).  And concentrate on JLA, JSA, and Teen Titans members, villians, and associates.  Forget about the G-D Super Powers/Friends. 

And get rid of Scott.

(http://www.hercampus.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_embed/public/2013/11/30/eye%20roll_0.jpg?itok=nj4FXKAn)

 ;)

I didn't mean YOU!  ;D

 [rock]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 21, 2014, 07:59:27 am
It's so hard to care anymore. That's the sad truth of it all.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 21, 2014, 08:03:54 am

On this I really couldn't care less one way or the other.  He's a corporate spokesman who's every utterance has to be put through 4 sorts of legal scrutiny before it comes out of his mouth so it can be dissected and debated and decried by a rabid and crazed public who alternately love or hate him depending on what plastic dolly-men may or may not be made based on a corporate committee meeting involving a dozen different entities that he is the public face for.  The reason he gets so much attention?  He's the only one actively TRYING to speak to the collecting community.  Who is in charge of GIJoe?  What's the head of Star Wars toys' name?  Who lets the public know what new Hot Wheels are coming out?  Lego's person in charge of the blind-pack mini figures is?

At this point, I'm sure he WANTS to go.  He can go from the "Mast Hated Man in the Toy Community" back to "someone who designs toys".

My issue with Scott is not as corporate shill, it's as DCUC brand manager.  He (like all humans) has preferences and predjudices.  He wanted to relive his childhood rebuilding SP/SF.  He was a huge GL fan.  He picked Kamandi, and as much as I loved that choice, it came at a cost.  He sucked up to Geoff Johns at the end of the retail line and it too had a cost.  The makeup of the entire line can be viewed through a prism of what he liked and didn't like.  Business would have dictated another path.  Especially after waves 17 and 18.  By then it was probably too late anyway.  


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on August 21, 2014, 10:11:22 am
It's so hard to care anymore. That's the sad truth of it all.

Yeah, that's pretty much my reaction after being away for awhile.   Do you guys honestly miss what the line and the overall experience of collecting it had become?  I don't.  I'm glad there was a sub for a couple of years, because I did get to cross the rest of my "must haves" off my want list, but calling 2013 lackluster would be a complement.  We were obviously being dealt from the bottom of the deck, and I don't miss feeling like I was selling my ass to Mattel every month when that charge hit my bank account.

I'd like to see MOTUC go through this year so everyone can get closure, and then I hope never to see Mattel, mattycollector.com, Neitlich, or Digital River anywhere near my hobby again.

Just for the record, I prefer that the toy companies DON'T communicate with us directly.   Nothing good has ever come of it.  That's a 180 degree swing from where I was a few short years ago.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on August 21, 2014, 11:49:44 am
I didn't get even half of my "must haves" from the line.  Instead I got Supercrap, colored lanterns nobody wanted, and Kamandi.   [banghead]  The only completed team was the Metal Men, who I don't give a rats ass about.  The line was a complete and utter failure.  They have never admitted that it was 17 and 18 that killed the line.  The sub was a complete joke, and we over paid for each and every one of those figures. 

The only line that was MORE of a failure than DCUC was Batman Legacy.  After a sold attempt with GL classics, which gave us Arkillo and Stel....Batman Legacy gave us Catman, and that was it.  What a complete and utter waste of everyone's time. 

The only way this line could have succeeded was if it went forever, like Legends.  Oh, and if DC hadn't decided to ruin every comic title they have. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 21, 2014, 02:39:27 pm
You dudes are so ANGRYZ.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 21, 2014, 04:45:52 pm
They have never admitted that it was 17 and 18 that killed the line.

And they won't, because it wasn't :) Although yes, 17 was a bad seller and probably had to do with retailers cutting their orders. 18 had already been pre-ordered and sold fairly well ... except for Boomerang. I'm sure someone will give an example of 3 El Dorados hanging around somewhere as evidence though ;)

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The sub was a complete joke, and we over paid for each and every one of those figures. 

Yes we did. And the sub could have worked, but they just couldn't go ahead and promise to give people what they wanted. Some of us will take just about any figure but they wanted everyone to be willing to accept a diverse DC Universe and not just play favorites.

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The only way this line could have succeeded was if it went forever, like Legends.  Oh, and if DC hadn't decided to ruin every comic title they have.

And that last sentence more than anything is the reason the line ended. DC wanted the toys to reflect what was in the comics. Even if TG had wanted to say no to his best buddy GJ, DC had to approve every product. Just sad.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 21, 2014, 05:01:49 pm
Cheery fucking bastards  :D

Were there more characters that I wanted?  Sure. Were there figs we got that I wasn't happy with?  Sure.
But I look at my display and I'm pretty happy. Yeah, I want a golden age Mr Terrific or The Ray and I'm pissed that we got Batzarro instead... But jeez.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 21, 2014, 05:18:04 pm
I'm still convinced that Mattel could bring back DCUC tomorrow.  Lose the C&C.  Drop the ab crunch, thigh pivot, and lateral hip for tooling costs.  Condense the packaging (it's amazing how much packaging adds to a products price).  And concentrate on JLA, JSA, and Teen Titans members, villians, and associates.

I agree, and I'd be totally cool with that.  [thumbs up]

As far as communicating with us, I think doing fan Polls would be a great idea, but in general, it would probably be best NOT talking to us.  Like some of you have said, trying to satisfy us is like herding cats....under water....while being in a full body cast.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on August 21, 2014, 06:19:13 pm
You dudes are so ANGRYZ.

I've got a raccoon and a tree on my dresser and a chick with butterfly wings arriving tomorrow.  How could I possibly be angry?   ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 21, 2014, 06:20:44 pm
You'd think they made a wave with Prez, Brother Power The Geek and the Global Guardians or something.  :P


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 21, 2014, 06:27:54 pm
I woulda bought that wave.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on August 21, 2014, 06:48:26 pm
I would have loved that wave.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 21, 2014, 06:54:28 pm
Ultra the Multi Alien as the BAF! Everyone's a winnah! [hi5]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 21, 2014, 06:58:25 pm
It's just a little sad to me to see how great this line was and how much better it could have been if managed by someone without an agenda.  SP/SF, GLC, Geoff Johns greatest hits, nU 52, or the morts (however you define that), if someone had kept their eyes on the ball and given us the main players, this amazing line could still be going.  Simply key in on the heritage characters, versions thereof, their families, teams, associates, villians, and rare supporting cast/civilians and we'd be fine.  Neck deep in fact in JLA, JSA, and Teen Titans.  GA to nU 52.  We could even get LSH based on Superboy and Supergirl's membership.  Not too many degrees of separation exist.  Creeper could have been done in a Batman wave.  Using the JLA/JSA/TT formula, I bet we could've reached better than 50% of the DCU.  

Instead, we got a guy who defined success in how much of the Super Powers/Friends lineup he could get done without making it look suspicious.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 21, 2014, 07:23:21 pm
I don't really understand the Super Powers/Friends hate.

The fact that I could team-build a complete Legion of Doom is what got me interested in reviving my action figure hobby in the first place.

And as much as I'm a DC fanboy, I think there's some shortsightedness into what constitutes a main player in the eyes of stockholders and the everyday public (Batman and Superman. The end.  ;))

Generally it seems like the people who enjoyed the waves that are lambasted (like myself) find that it fits their particular nostalgia trip (well maybe not that Cap't Boomerang, but you hopefully get my drift).

I think the difference is, if you or whoever else got their precise "find your joy" moment of action figures, I would be just as happy to have Crab-Face Kyle, Hitman, Zauriel, Aztek, etc or Mark Shaw Manhunter, the original Rocket Red suit, Count Veritigo, Nightshade and the Elemental Firestorm. They needed more folks with this mindset for the sub (and they really needed to stop skimping on the figures and using Digital River).


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 21, 2014, 08:14:22 pm
My "hatred" for SP/SF comes from that fact that these figures were not always offered as variants (or better yet, a stand alone line), but knocked actual DC characters from precious slots in the retail lineup.  FWIW, I now agree (although I didn't at the time) that Kamandi, OMAC, and Jemm were wastes of slots too.  Probably Jonah Hex as well.  People are welcome to like and buy what they want, but Scott got the world's biggest toy company to sign onto what is essentially a cult based on a toy line and a cartoon instead of 75 years of comic history.

As far as main players, there's the heritage characters.  Basically GAers.  Heroes and villians.  Move them forward through history.  As far as stockholders and the public, this was originally aimed at "adult collectors".  So what do they know or care? 

And I did find my "moment of joy".  Kamandi and OMAC.  I now agknowledge them as part of the problem.  But no one will ever admit that Golden Pharoah was part of the problem too.  Ironically, released in the same wave as OMAC and Jemm.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on August 21, 2014, 08:30:28 pm
I fully and wholeheartedly admit that Golden Pharoah was part of the problem.   ;)

I don't understand how some people don't understand how the Supercrap was a bullshit addition to the line.  You said it best Gard, it kept a REAL character out of the line.  I could have lived with Supercraped variants and Supercrap color schemes as variants, but those characters made up for the show can go fuck themselves!  Its really not that hard to understand.  If they wanted to make the figures, that's fine.  Put them all up on MC, and let them rot. 

Kamandi really was destined to be a turd for so many reasons.  I can appreciate that some people wanted him, but he barely looks like he belongs in the DC Universe, and was incredibly no toyetic.  And if they had made the robot OMAC, I doubt many people would have complained.  But they chose the old version, and then did a VERY poor job. 

We've talked about all this stuff so many times, which only concretes how many dedicated fans there were for this line.  Done right, it could still be going.  If they weren't complete cunt waffles, they could had 6 retail waves, AND a sub.  Instead, they got nothing.....but so do we.  Its OUR fault the Supercrap and Rainbow assholes killed the line. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on August 21, 2014, 08:42:52 pm
Seriously, every time I see Jersey post, I just imagine what antacid sales in his area must be like.

My stomach is just fine.  Thanks for the concern

Yes we did. And the sub could have worked, but they just couldn't go ahead and promise to give people what they wanted. Some of us will take just about any figure but they wanted everyone to be willing to accept a diverse DC Universe and not just play favorites.

You can't have it both ways sir.  You can't say that the Supercrap didn't kill the line, yet the character selection for the sub killed the sub. 

Character selection killed them both.  More than that, the blatant refusal to make certain characters REALLY screwed up everything.  As soon as they decided to be cheap, based on those imaginary sub sales that they can't share with us, we were fucked.  Lets use Ragdoll.  Secret Six member, cool looking villain, would have made most people happy right?  "We need to hit this imaginary second tier that we'll NEVER hit in order to get any figure you guys actually WANT"  It was ridiculous. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on August 21, 2014, 09:49:31 pm
Jersey got a point for cunt waffle.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 21, 2014, 10:21:42 pm
You can't have it both ways sir.  You can't say that the Supercrap didn't kill the line, yet the character selection for the sub killed the sub.

Sure you can. The line was ending whether or not the Deputy Lanterns and Supercrap sold. DC wanted the new looks on the pegs. Now I can imagine that if the subsequent waves had sold better it may have continued, although with nU 52 figures -- but Wave 19 full of classic and modern JSA was a turkey that went to clearance. If that was a victim of underordering it sure didn't show. Wave 20 probably was though. Bottom line though, DC did not want Classics on the shelves. They wanted nU.

The sub was completely dependent on Classic lovers / Supercrap haters. It wasn't affecting DC's market presence, so classic characters were fine. This is where character selection was crucial. They couldn't slip in whatever like they could at retail. If they had promised only Classic, no nU, used Gard's formula, maybe it would have worked ... but they wouldn't, and even said that there might be nU characters. If the reactions of people on the boards are to be believed, that's why some didn't sign up.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Polarboy on August 21, 2014, 10:26:30 pm

 Lego's person in charge of the blind-pack mini figures is?


That would be me, I hope everybody is pumped for an all monkey wave  [yess]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 21, 2014, 11:57:43 pm
Don't forget that DCUC were practically unavailable outside North America.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 22, 2014, 08:45:28 am
I know we've been over this time and again.  It's just very frustrating and disheartening when you look at what could have been.  Really what should have been.  But a handful of guys wanting to recapture their childhoods convinced a major toy company to go along with them.  And now we're done.  Quite likely forever.  Another broad based, collector oriented DCU line of six inch figures will probably never happen again.  If only these guys had concentrated on the core of the DCU in their classic looks, we'd likely still be rolling.

Whatever.  My action figures are all long gone.  I don't own any at this point.  I even dumped the DCC E-2 figures I'd been picking up.  All I can hope for now is that DCC will do Multiversity figures.  Or that someone will do a line of six inch indie figures. [banghead] Beyond that, I may well really be done for realz this time. 

For now.  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 22, 2014, 09:28:19 am
Can someone please write me a list of the so-called "core" characters that were not concentrated on?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on August 22, 2014, 10:07:09 am

The only way this line could have succeeded was if it went forever, like Legends.  Oh, and if DC hadn't decided to ruin every comic title they have. 

The Nu52 pretty much ended the chance of DC ever again producing a line comparable to Legends. Mattel couldn't even sell nu52 successfully.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on August 22, 2014, 10:33:34 am
Can someone please write me a list of the so-called "core" characters that were not concentrated on?

Tim Drake in his original Robin costume
Kyle in his original GL costume
A number of Superman villains (a proper Lex, Bizarro etc - and til recently Doomsday)
Most of the New Teen Titans
Flash villains from all the same era

are a few off the top of my head.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 22, 2014, 11:30:15 am
And now we're done.  Quite likely forever.  Another broad based, collector oriented DCU line of six inch figures will probably never happen again.

Incredibly sad and true.  [cursing]   [banghead]

I find it amazing that we got an awesome LEGIONAIRE box set, yet there are other huge gaps that were never filled.  I own JONAH HEX, VIGILANTE, KAMANDI, and KILLER MOTH, yet no CONNOR HAWKE, no Classic Tim Drake ROBIN, no AQUALAD, or no SPEEDY.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on August 22, 2014, 01:32:47 pm
Can someone please write me a list of the so-called "core" characters that were not concentrated on?

Tim Drake in his original Robin costume
Kyle in his original GL costume
A number of Superman villains (a proper Lex, Bizarro etc - and til recently Doomsday)
Most of the New Teen Titans
Flash villains from all the same era

are a few off the top of my head.

Bart Allen as Impulse and Kid Flash
Cassie Sandsmark as Wonder Girl
Jericho
Wally West in proper scale (they made damn sure we got an apology Sinestro tho)
Jason Todd Robin
Jason Todd Red Hood (in the costume he's most well known in)
Spoiler
Stephanie Brown Batgirl


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 22, 2014, 01:32:56 pm
Can someone please write me a list of the so-called "core" characters that were not concentrated on?

Tim Drake in his original Robin costume
Kyle in his original GL costume
A number of Superman villains (a proper Lex, Bizarro etc - and til recently Doomsday)
Most of the New Teen Titans
Flash villains from all the same era

are a few off the top of my head.

So you wanted a bunch of re-do's along with the Rogues?

I feel like if you asked this question of 100 collectors, you'd end up with one-hundred different answers.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 22, 2014, 01:40:11 pm
Bart Allen as Impulse and Kid Flash
Cassie Sandsmark as Wonder Girl
Jericho
Wally West in proper scale (they made damn sure we got an apology Sinestro tho)
Jason Todd Robin
Jason Todd Red Hood (in the costume he's most well known in)
Spoiler
Stephanie Brown Batgirl

I did think that the Red Hood would have been a retail candidate for the Batman Unlimited line. I still would be of the opinion that these are all derivative of "core" characters.

Wonder Girl and Impulse could've been part of the Young Justice Line. But that clearly wasn't meant to be.

These days it's probably being generous to suggest anybody but Batman or Superman are "core."


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on August 22, 2014, 04:26:24 pm
I haven't beat this dead horse in nearly a year, so why not?   :D

DCUC was created to be a homage to Super Powers in the same way MOTUC was created to be a homage to the original figures.  Super Powers itself was a homage to Super Friends.  We classic DC fans make it sound like Super Powers and Super Friends fans shouldn't have been allowed to play in our sandbox when we were actually playing in their sandbox the whole time.

Having said that, themed waves were a terrible idea, regardless of what the theme was.  I don't blame them for killing the line at retail (in fact, they were just hitting retail when the bomb was dropped at SDCC 2011), but I do blame them for the initial sub offering not funding properly, and I blame the initial sub offering not funding properly for the rest of the downward spiral.

If you're talking about the Silver & Bronze Age DC, "core characters" and "Satellite Era JLA" are synonyms to me.

It will probably be quite some time before we know how much of a hand DC in and of itself had in ending this line at retail.  I see it as the kid saying he's going to take his ball and go home long after most of the other kids have already left.

At the end of the day (or whatever part of the day we're in now), it was an amazing line, and I got far more out of it than I would have ever imagined possible.   When you're watching the teaser for an episode of Brave and the Bold that features Batman, Stargirl, Blue Bettle (Jaime), and Mantis (classic Kirby version) and you can say that you have figures of all four of those characters (and they actually look like they belong together), that's quite an accomplishment.

Having said all that, I don't miss all the drama that went with collecting it, and "Matty" was just as responsible for that as the fans were.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 22, 2014, 04:27:44 pm
I feel like if you asked this question of 100 collectors, you'd end up with one-hundred different answers.

I agree totally.  

As a huge DC fan, I am in no way dissing anybody's choices, but once you get past the big guns and their families, we all split in 7,000 different ways.  Personally, I've whined and cried about that shrimpy KID FLASH for years.  I'm a huge WARLORD fan.  I'd buy PEACEMAKER.  I want JAVELIN for fuck's sake!  RICK FLAGG and AMANDA WALLER 2-pack?  Hell yeah!

It goes on and on....  [cuckoo]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on August 22, 2014, 04:39:38 pm
Granny Goodness, Ma Hunkel, and The Wall could have all used the same buck. Damn shame Mattel couldn't be convinced to give a fuck.

Maybe I'll modify a Rikishi...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 22, 2014, 05:24:38 pm
I'm not about to expect multiples just so we can have the correct costume. I know people wanted Perez Zatanna, but that's just being picky. We got a nice Z so that's that.

What I wanted was Heatwave instead of Sinestro Batman, The Ray (any) instead of that fucking Atom, Damage instead of Bondage Wonder Woman, etc.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 22, 2014, 05:57:41 pm
Lots of truth on this thread.  But I disagree with Xav just a bit.  BTW, glad you're back bro.  Stick around for a while.   [thumbs up]

If this line were a complete sendup to Super Powers, we would have gotten all the Super Powers accurate stuff up front.  Including the Super Friends versions.  Why is Carolina blue Supes one of the final figures instead of one of the first?

As for what I consider "core" DC characters, it boils down to GAers.  Hence why I call them "heritage" characters.  It has to do with their evolution too.  Through time Superman changed a whole bunch.  And the "families" they spawn.  We didn't get a GA Mr. Terrific, but we got the MA version.  Acceptable, but I wanted both.  I also wanted a proper GA Superman to go with the Sprang-ish Batman.  Johnny/J.J. Thunderbolt woulda been tits and ice cream.  How many Flashes are there?  How many Starmen?  Hawkman?  That's why my mantra is JLA/JSA/TT.  Members, associates, and villians.  Hell, this line coulda gone on for years with Batman villians alone.   

Teen Titans/Young Justice fans got fucked.  No lube, no kiss, no reach around.  Then they got a prison tat from Matty with a ball point pen and a lighter. 

I've no allusions of Mattel coming back to this any time soon, if ever.  I just see what could have been and get a little angry/sad.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 22, 2014, 06:24:28 pm
I'm not about to expect multiples just so we can have the correct costume. I know people wanted Perez Zatanna, but that's just being picky. We got a nice Z so that's that.

What I wanted was Heatwave instead of Sinestro Batman, The Ray (any) instead of that fucking Atom, Damage instead of Bondage Wonder Woman, etc.

This is fair and understood.

Felix Faust instead of Orange Sherbert Luthor (see I can play too!)!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 22, 2014, 08:43:34 pm
I'm not about to expect multiples just so we can have the correct costume. I know people wanted Perez Zatanna, but that's just being picky. We got a nice Z so that's that.

What I wanted was Heatwave instead of Sinestro Batman, The Ray (any) instead of that fucking Atom, Damage instead of Bondage Wonder Woman, etc.

This is fair and understood.

Felix Faust instead of Orange Sherbert Luthor (see I can play too!)!

He's finally got it, boys!  [rock]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 08:47:57 pm
Okay, I need to chime in here real quick like and clear up a few misconceptions.

Sales did not kill this line at retail.  The line was selling fine.  It was selling so well, in fact, that retailers were asking for exclusive waves.  It was selling so well that it inspired Hasbro to bring back Marvel Legends.

You all know how much I hate Super Powers and Super Friends.  No need to rehash it.  But I can tell you with all honesty that it was not Super Powers and Super Friends that killed the line.

The JSA wave did not kill the line.

Kamandi did not kill the line.

The Rainbow Lanterns did not kill the line.

The line was selling.  It was moving.

Warner Brothers Consumer Products and DC Entertainment killed the line.

How do I know this?  Remember that interview I was going to conduct with Mattel at SDCC 2011?  The one where I had to throw out all your questions because they dropped the bombshell at their panel that the line was being discontinued at retail?  That's when Mattel told me and Daniel (Julius) that they had to discontinue DC Classics at retail.  They had no choice. Straight up, WBCP and DC want the nu 52, movie and video game figures to be the face of DC in retail stores now.  They basically want the nu costumes and looks to be what kids associate with DC now.

I don't have it in me to be upset about it anymore.  It's just marketing and branding.  It's business.  It makes sense, I guess.

Do you guys remember me telling you all this on the Mess?  I did, a couple of times.  You have short memories.  ;)

I'll have a more to say a little later on, but I just wanted to get this out there: It wasn't sales.  It wasn't Super Powers/Super Friends.  It was outside forces.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 08:51:37 pm
You can't have it both ways sir.  You can't say that the Supercrap didn't kill the line, yet the character selection for the sub killed the sub.

Sure you can. The line was ending whether or not the Deputy Lanterns and Supercrap sold. DC wanted the new looks on the pegs.

Truth.  Dave is 100% correct.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 09:05:40 pm
DCUC was created to be a homage to Super Powers in the same way MOTUC was created to be a homage to the original figures. 

Well ... no.

DCSH and DCUC was created to be DC's answer to Marvel Legends.  Super Powers and Super Friends had nothing to do with it. Again, it was Mattel that told me this.

Flashback to the 2008 SDCC when DCSH made their debut.  At the time, Eddie Hayden and Geoff Walker were in charge of the line.  Eddie said that it was Wal-Mart that went to Mattel and said "Hey, we have a line that sells really well for us called Marvel Legends.  Why don't you guys do the same thing with the DC characters?"  Mattel is not adverse to making money, so they said why not.  And so the six inch DC Superheroes line was born.  Just like Marvel legends, each figure was going to come with a comic book and a wall mountable display base.  And then shit happened between Mattel and DC Direct.  I can get into specifics a little later, but basically it was right before the 2008 SDCC that Mattel found out there were rights issues with the non-Superman and Batman characters.  That's why there were a lot of little paper display holders on Mattel's shelves at SDCC that year.

So Mattel went back to the bargaining table with Warner Brothers.  Mattel won.  DC Direct can't get into Wal-Mart, TRU and Target the way Mattel can.

So DCSH morphed into DCUC.  And we were all happy for awhile.

Now, when Scott Nietlich (I can't spell his name) and Bill Benecke (His either) took over the line, THEN it became a Super Powers homage.  And I really, really dislike those two toonheads.

But originally, DCSH and DCUC were something quite different.  A tribute to DC comics.  And it was sweet.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 22, 2014, 09:12:30 pm
Make no mistake, The Ray, Heatwave and Damage are all characters I would have loved to see. But I wouldn't exactly call them "overlooked" "core" characters.

In fact the argument could be made that Sinestro Batman and that wave 20 that was such a disappointment to "adult collectors" in terms of "wasted slots" that most of that wave were just different versions of core characters. Not exactly any version I was personally clamoring for...but I'm sure I could think up a couple dozen Superman variants that I would have been happy to have.

I do find it strange that if Warner Brothers Consumer Products and DC Entertainment killed the classics line, why isn't the Unlimited line still chugging along? Wasn't that the nuFace? Seems like that died a quicker death than anything. I know there are plenty of vocally anti-nu52 people out there on the interwebz, but I can't imagine there was such great support for the Classics line that didn't cross over to the Unlimited line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 22, 2014, 09:14:09 pm

Do you guys remember me telling you all this on the Mess?  I did, a couple of times.  You have short memories.  ;)


I do. But remember that this isn't the Mess 2.0 - this place actually existed well before the Mess died - and not everyone here was a member there.  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 22, 2014, 09:15:18 pm
Now, when Scott Nietlich (I can't spell his name) and Bill Benecke (His either) took over the line, THEN it became a Super Powers homage.  And I really, really dislike those two toonheads.

But originally, DCSH and DCUC were something quite different.  A tribute to DC comics.  And it was sweet.

In terms of waves, when would you say this occurred?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 22, 2014, 09:17:30 pm
I wonder if, instead of mucking around with Digital River and their own online shop, if Mattel had marketed DCUC to the specialty market and sold it through Previews, if it could have survived?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 09:18:48 pm
I do find it strange that if Warner Brothers Consumer Products and DC Entertainment killed the classics line, why isn't the Unlimited line still chugging along? Wasn't that the nuFace? Seems like that died a quicker death than anything. I know there are plenty of vocally anti-nu52 people out there on the interwebz, but I can't imagine there was such great support for the Classics line that didn't cross over to the Unlimited line.

Sales.  It's as simple as that.  Adult Collectors love the classics.  Unlimited got the axe because Wal-Mart and Target didn't want it anymore.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 09:23:40 pm
Now, when Scott Nietlich (I can't spell his name) and Bill Benecke (His either) took over the line, THEN it became a Super Powers homage.  And I really, really dislike those two toonheads.

But originally, DCSH and DCUC were something quite different.  A tribute to DC comics.  And it was sweet.

In terms of waves, when would you say this occurred?

You know, I honestly can't remember.  I believe it was in early 2009 that Geoff went over to Hot Wheels and Eddie left the company, so the two toonheads probably took over DCUC with wave 8 or 9.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 22, 2014, 09:24:57 pm
I do find it strange that if Warner Brothers Consumer Products and DC Entertainment killed the classics line, why isn't the Unlimited line still chugging along? Wasn't that the nuFace? Seems like that died a quicker death than anything. I know there are plenty of vocally anti-nu52 people out there on the interwebz, but I can't imagine there was such great support for the Classics line that didn't cross over to the Unlimited line.

Sales.  It's as simple as that.  Adult Collectors love the classics.  Unlimited got the axe because Wal-Mart and Target didn't want it anymore.

I don't know that I buy that, but it's interesting to hear your insights into the rise and fall of the line (s).


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 09:27:24 pm
I shouldn't call'em toonheads.  That's not nice.


But they are.

I'll probably pay for that in some subtle (Or not so subtle) way later.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 09:28:41 pm

Do you guys remember me telling you all this on the Mess?  I did, a couple of times.  You have short memories.  ;)


I do. But remember that this isn't the Mess 2.0 - this place actually existed well before the Mess died - and not everyone here was a member there.  ;)

Understood.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 09:30:52 pm
I do find it strange that if Warner Brothers Consumer Products and DC Entertainment killed the classics line, why isn't the Unlimited line still chugging along? Wasn't that the nuFace? Seems like that died a quicker death than anything. I know there are plenty of vocally anti-nu52 people out there on the interwebz, but I can't imagine there was such great support for the Classics line that didn't cross over to the Unlimited line.

Sales.  It's as simple as that.  Adult Collectors love the classics.  Unlimited got the axe because Wal-Mart and Target didn't want it anymore.

I don't know that I buy that, but it's interesting to hear your insights into the rise and fall of the line (s).

Fair enough.  I'm just telling you what Mattel told me.  I thought you guys might find it illuminating.

I believe I still have that whole non-interview with Mattel on tape.  Let me see if I can dig it up.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 22, 2014, 09:35:08 pm
I wonder if, instead of mucking around with Digital River and their own online shop, if Mattel had marketed DCUC to the specialty market and sold it through Previews, if it could have survived?

Possibly, but bear in mind that Mattel is a company with a Shit Ton of overhead. They have a big office building in one of the most expensive places to live in the country that has hundreds of employees.  Their CEO likes to pay himself a ten million dollar bonus every year, not to mention his company car, company helicopter and company plane.

Yes.  He zips around LA in his company paid for helicopter.

If they can't make X amount of dollars on a project, the project doesn't happen.

Sad, but that's who DC fans are stuck with.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 22, 2014, 09:56:15 pm

Do you guys remember me telling you all this on the Mess?  I did, a couple of times.  You have short memories.  ;)


I do. But remember that this isn't the Mess 2.0 - this place actually existed well before the Mess died - and not everyone here was a member there.  ;)

Understood.

 :-* :-*


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on August 22, 2014, 10:44:23 pm
I wonder if, instead of mucking around with Digital River and their own online shop, if Mattel had marketed DCUC to the specialty market and sold it through Previews, if it could have survived?

Possibly, but bear in mind that Mattel is a company with a Shit Ton of overhead. They have a big office building in one of the most expensive places to live in the country that has hundreds of employees.  Their CEO likes to pay himself a ten million dollar bonus every year, not to mention his company car, company helicopter and company plane.

Yes.  He zips around LA in his company paid for helicopter.

If they can't make X amount of dollars on a project, the project doesn't happen.

Sad, but that's who DC fans are stuck with.

Do you know if Hasbro has similar overheard?  I'm sure Rhode Island is cheaper, but the company has to be about the same size staff wise I'd imagine.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 22, 2014, 11:07:15 pm
IMHO, this simply proves that MARVEL knows how to market itself a zillion times better than DC does.

And they've known it since the early 60s.   O0


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 23, 2014, 09:56:02 am
Thanks Mike.  I remember most of that from SDCC 2011.  Just not the part about DC/WB definitively killing DCUC as a brand.  Another brilliant marketing move from the gang who can't shoot straight.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on August 23, 2014, 10:43:07 am
Do you know if Hasbro has similar overheard?  I'm sure Rhode Island is cheaper, but the company has to be about the same size staff wise I'd imagine.

According to their Wiki pages, Mattel employs almost 3 times as many people.

Mattel - Employees 28,000 (December 2011)
Hasbro - Employees 10,000 (2012)

Barbie and Hot Wheels are serious business...

Youch.  I know Hasbro doesn't have a Barbie or Hot Wheels, but they're doing pretty well with Transformers and My Little Pony.  It's like DC and Marvel aligned with their spiritual counterparts.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JackKnight on August 23, 2014, 11:32:08 am
What makes me wonder if we've got all the right info on WB/DC killing DCUC at retail because they wanted nU looks on everything at retail is that, in my own collection of drinkware and such, I couldn't point out more than 2-3 nU pieces I've seen/bought since nU began.  I know I've even remarked more than once on the incredible wealth of Wonder Woman product I've seen this year alone and it's been 90-95% JLGL style-guide driven.

I can believe it. I've been buying my son the little Imaginext style DC figures. And while those were originally in classic costumes, now they've switched over to Nu52 crap too. I'd imagine the reason we get lucky with the glassware and t-shirts is that it's the Retro mentality that sells them more than anything. And if DC doesn't give those companies that, they simply won't make them. Even my Marvel glasses are all retro looks.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 23, 2014, 12:35:29 pm
Thanks for providing the facts yet again, Mike :)

It's funny, in one of the anti New 52 groups I'm in, everyone goes on about boycotting anything nU ... though some will say "I still buy Batman because ..." Then I asked, how many of you buy your kids nU toys? Then came the answers: "That's different, I won't deny my child anything!" So I don't blame Jack or anyone else but the fact is that's what Warner / DC is counting on. And Mattel will keep on making nU toys because kids are growing up with those being the looks for the characters.

As for other merchandise I was actually surprised to see nU Superman alarm clocks on and endcap at Target. They were on clearance though  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 23, 2014, 12:43:31 pm
Obviously, it cannot be done, but I've often said that since DC is ashamed of it's 75 year history, I wish they could sell the 'Toy Rights' to those images to some other company.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 23, 2014, 01:23:19 pm
On a positive note, Total Heroes is tanking.  And DC/WB/Mattel will eventually realize how much money they're leaving on the table simply by observing Marvel Legends. 

You would think that a relaunch of a broad based, comic accurate line might be possible in a few years.  Or maybe not.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on August 23, 2014, 02:00:01 pm
Thanks for providing the facts yet again, Mike :)

It's funny, in one of the anti New 52 groups I'm in, everyone goes on about boycotting anything nU ... though some will say "I still buy Batman because ..." Then I asked, how many of you buy your kids nU toys? Then came the answers: "That's different, I won't deny my child anything!" So I don't blame Jack or anyone else but the fact is that's what Warner / DC is counting on. And Mattel will keep on making nU toys because kids are growing up with those being the looks for the characters.

As for other merchandise I was actually surprised to see nU Superman alarm clocks on and endcap at Target. They were on clearance though  :D

It wasn't hard for me to walk away. Even the books I liked started to show signs of outside influence. It's not hard to walk when they're going out of their way to tell classic fans to stay out of their playground.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 23, 2014, 02:20:41 pm
On a positive note, Total Heroes is tanking.  And DC/WB/Mattel will eventually realize how much money they're leaving on the table simply by observing Marvel Legends. 

You would think that a relaunch of a broad based, comic accurate line might be possible in a few years.  Or maybe not.

This is a good point.  Marvel Legends is doing so well right now that retailers are asking for exclusives.  Hell, even Walgreens is jumping on the Marvel Legends bandwagon.

Mattel will make a ton of green on the upcoming Batman/Superman flick.  But that's not until 2016.  What are they supposed to do between movies?

Which segues nicely to my next point ...

Obviously, it cannot be done, but I've often said that since DC is ashamed of it's 75 year history, I wish they could sell the 'Toy Rights' to those images to some other company.

It is possible to split a license up.  Mezco is doing 6 inch Dark Knight figures, right?

I'm speculating here, but I think we're about to see some changes made.  Mattel is gradually putting out the figures they've already tooled (Doomsday) and once they've gone through those, then we'll see the DC license split.  Mattel can produce the movie, cartoon, video game and Fisher Price toys.  Another company (Mezco, Funko or NECA perhaps) can make adult collectibles based on the classic looks for the direct market.  Obviously, they would pay a lot less for their share of the license than Mattel did.

I still think DC and Warner Brothers are missing out and being short sighted.  There is a market out there for six inch, highly articulated, classic comic characters.  Hasbro and Marvel are proving that.  Hell, DCUC proved that.

But whatevs.  I can't tell the suits what to do.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 23, 2014, 05:04:22 pm

I still think DC and Warner Brothers are missing out and being short sighted.  

That's an understatement  ;)

What Marvel have on their side is the Disney merchandising juggernaut. Everywhere I go I see Marvel merch. And these guys aren't afraid of their legacy, I see t-shirts with Kirby Cap, Buscema Hulk, Colan Iron Man....it's actually kinda awesome.

Meanwhile DC are fighting an uphill battle to sell a Superman without undies to a world that didn't care before, only now you've lost 50% of the fan base you already had before Nu.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 23, 2014, 06:37:23 pm
I think Mattel should ride the nostalgia train and make jumbo size Super Powers figures :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 23, 2014, 06:59:27 pm
I un-friend you.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on August 23, 2014, 07:21:47 pm
I think Mattel should ride the nostalgia train and make jumbo size Super Powers figures :)

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/darthfoley/scream_zps36bacdf7.jpg)

 ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JackKnight on August 23, 2014, 10:07:43 pm
It's funny, in one of the anti New 52 groups I'm in, everyone goes on about boycotting anything nU ... though some will say "I still buy Batman because ..." Then I asked, how many of you buy your kids nU toys? Then came the answers: "That's different, I won't deny my child anything!" So I don't blame Jack or anyone else but the fact is that's what Warner / DC is counting on. And Mattel will keep on making nU toys because kids are growing up with those being the looks for the characters.

I didn't say I was buying them. Little Jack is only 3, but wants to know where's Green Arrow's hat and why does the gorilla have that junk on him? Luckily the Plastic Man with Nu Martian Manhunter I saw online looks to have returned to a classic look (still need to find that one) and the Scarecrow/Poison Ivy pack I picked up was pretty much pre-nu52 too.

If DC really wants to market those versions to kids, I think they'd better put out a Nu52 cartoon or something. Because right now all they can watch are Brave & the Bold and the Timm-verse.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 23, 2014, 10:15:07 pm
What Marvel have on their side is the Disney merchandising juggernaut. Everywhere I go I see Marvel merch. And these guys aren't afraid of their legacy, I see t-shirts with Kirby Cap, Buscema Hulk, Colan Iron Man....it's actually kinda awesome.

Meanwhile DC are fighting an uphill battle to sell a Superman without undies to a world that didn't care before, only now you've lost 50% of the fan base you already had before Nu.

[bravo]  Plus 1 for FISH.  (Plus 100 if I was able to do it )

It is possible to split a license up.  Mezco is doing 6 inch Dark Knight figures, right?

Duh.  I'd already forgotten about that.  My bad.  [think]

Mattel can produce the movie, cartoon, video game and Fisher Price toys.  Another company (Mezco, Funko or NECA perhaps) can make adult collectibles based on the classic looks for the direct market.

Good Lord, I would loooove for that to happen!!!  I cannot see myself starting over, but I damned well would buy...

1) Characters that have never been made
2) Characters in a particular costume that I prefer
3) Characters that are somehow a better sculpt than what already exists or perhaps in the 'correct' scale

Again, I would love this.  It could help fill the gaps.  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 24, 2014, 01:23:54 am
I un-friend you.

Bah!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 24, 2014, 03:10:25 am
I friend you.

So I can unfriend you again.

Cor, but I'm a rotten bastard.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 24, 2014, 03:36:45 am
I wouldn't expect any less of you. That's why you're my super friend!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 24, 2014, 01:09:29 pm
Ouchie!



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on August 24, 2014, 03:26:12 pm
I'd only buy new classic figures if they fit with what we have. Ideally, NECA or whoever would buy some of the molds and hire the 4H to continue the line. New bodies, new scale, new articulation scheme and I wouldn't care.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 24, 2014, 06:44:59 pm
We're starting to talk about this like it's going to happen.  This is speculation at best.  It would be nice to think it could happen some day, but the well is so poisened now, could Mattel (or anyone else) make it work even if classic designs were used?  Plus with a price point north of 20 bucks, most moms/kids are out.  And most fanboys will cherry pick.  Moreso than usual.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 24, 2014, 07:01:09 pm
If I was any of the companies we've mentioned, I'd be very cautious about picking up the DC license for 6" figures.

Why? DC collectors are picky and difficult. We have proven it time and again. We won't buy stuff just because it's DC or even just because it's a certain character. It has to be THAT version in THAT costume from THAT era and not with THAT mask but the other one, etc etc.

There's safer ways to try to make money in an industry that is hard to make money in.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 24, 2014, 07:20:14 pm
JLA/JSA/TT.  Classic looks.  Make money.   ;)

I know it's not quite that simple.  But in doing this, it's all inclusive for the big names too.  Superman and cast.  Batman and cast.  And on and on.  Stay away from flavor of the month stuff (deputy Lanterns), and the only morts we should get would have to be members of one of the various teams.  Bloodwynd, Aztec, Mal, Red Beetle, etc.  Keep the big names (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, Aquaman, Hawkman, Shazam, Martian Manhunter) or some version thereof, front and center.  Stay away from themed waves and for fucks sake have a plan like MotUC had. 

There's tons of low hanging fruit with this formula alone.  Do you realize we've never gotten a complete Fab Five Teen Titans (proper scale/style/costumes) from either DCD/DCC or Mattel?  Between the two companies, you can hammer it together, but the look is off.  Way off depending on how picky you are. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 24, 2014, 07:29:27 pm
I'm not saying I disagree that those ideas *might* sell. What I'm saying is that it will take a ballsy company to take it on because the track record of the property is so poor and the clientele is difficult. I can see a clever and knowledgeable marketing person making a strong pitch, but it's going to be hard to get past the numbers guys.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 24, 2014, 07:53:28 pm
Well SD did say sales were fine up to the point where DC/WB pulled the plug in favor of nU 52.  If that's true (and I don't doubt Mike) then the numbers guys shouldn't have much a problem.  The nit picky stuff came from the sub (mostly).  And the stupid, ill conceived themed waves.  And the nU stuff. 

The main problem now would seem to be getting DC/WB to sign off on classic looks for a big box retail line.  Except this time around, we wouldn't be getting Doom Patrol, New Gods, Metal Men, Freedom Fighters, etc.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 24, 2014, 08:16:00 pm
So there are currently no "cool" looking 6" Justice League figures at retail, meanwhile, Hasbro put out a guy in a bright yellow bee-keeper suit and retailers can't keep them on shelves.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 24, 2014, 09:26:05 pm
Well said, FISH.  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 24, 2014, 10:25:12 pm
It really makes you wonder just how far some of these execs (DC/WB/Mattel) can stick their heads up their asses.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on August 26, 2014, 07:25:59 am
Can someone please write me a list of the so-called "core" characters that were not concentrated on?

If Titans had been shown just a fraction of the love given to Super Friends...

Even the Legion did better -- with the exception of the female members (the dead horse still needs a beating every now and then  ;) ).

I can't believe we didn't even get these Perez era figures -- Terra (though the DCD version is stunning), Brother Blood, Dr. Light, Speedy and Aqualad. A Gordanian and some of the Brotherhood of Evil and Fatal Five would have been sweet. Anything that came before or after would have been gravy, I guess, but I certainly would have liked Bumblebee, Mal as teh Guardian, Dove, Harlequin and even Lilith in her green mini skirt. From the modern day version, I'm sure Miss Martian would have been fairly popular -- in addition to the core members.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on August 26, 2014, 07:31:09 am
I'm not about to expect multiples just so we can have the correct costume. I know people wanted Perez Zatanna, but that's just being picky. We got a nice Z so that's that.


I agree. I'd prefer a correctly-sized Kid Flash over another Zee -- as the first one was really the best Zatanna figure to date -- and was a very classic version. That said, I think there are myriad ways that the Satellite era outfit could have been in the line, but DCUC was never kind to female characters, IMHO.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 26, 2014, 07:53:09 am
And according to my JLA/JSA/TT formula, all would qualify including Phantom Lady as a member of the All Star Squadron (an offshoot of the JSA).  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on August 26, 2014, 08:03:06 pm
I agree. I'd prefer a correctly-sized Kid Flash over another Zee -- as the first one was really the best Zatanna figure to date -- and was a very classic version. That said, I think there are myriad ways that the Satellite era outfit could have been in the line, but DCUC was never kind to female characters, IMHO.

No, they weren't, at least not within the context of the line as a whole.  We were starting to make decent progress with the "at least one female character per wave" strategy, but then we got three females in five waves (16-20) and one them (Star Sapphire Wonder Woman) shouldn't even count.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 26, 2014, 08:29:02 pm
I agree.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on August 26, 2014, 08:32:08 pm
I've never seen that before.....  [dunno]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 26, 2014, 08:56:23 pm
There are quite a few figs that some of us would love DO-OVERS of:  The KID FLASH sculpt looks great, but they shrank him down too much.  The original prototype was just a fraction shorter than the FLASH, but somebody fucked up.

Even though I'm OK with the TURNERized ZATANA, most folks would have preferred a generic version.

Granted, I do have SPEEDY and AQUALAD, but they are the rather shaky DCD versions, and I was reeeally hoping MATTEL would get to them.  And I always figured MATTEL would do CHANGELING, too.  I thought wrong....

It's amazing how many figures that were done that could have been done generic/better.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 26, 2014, 09:40:42 pm

It's amazing how many figures that were done that could have been done generic/better.


The "Oh my god I'm passing the motherlode of monster shits" shuddering look on Alan Scott's face still makes me a sad panda.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on August 26, 2014, 10:29:02 pm
So, while I agree that SSWW wasn't a good choice, how would you have felt about this look-

(http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/culture/2006/06/11/ww70330x500.jpg)

Because IMO, while this look is laughably considered "iconic", a figure of this would have been a total waste of plastic, just as much as SSWW.

Yep.  I would have been just as unhappy with that one.  I was done with Wonder Woman after DCUC 4.  With female slots so limited, I would have preferred to see never before made characters.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on August 26, 2014, 10:32:25 pm
Another company taking the 6" license would mean convincing collectors to start a new collection. I'd be more inclined to just buy characters I don't already have in DCD and DCUC but how likely would those be?

Meanwhile Mattel can hold the license hostage. No other company making the figures, and if you're the type that has a compulsive need to buy figures they've got Total Heroes on the pegs for you.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 27, 2014, 08:03:18 am
Not exactly the compulsive type (anymore), but Total Heroes would cure it if I still was.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on August 27, 2014, 12:54:17 pm
If I was any of the companies we've mentioned, I'd be very cautious about picking up the DC license for 6" figures.

Why?

I'll tell you why. So you don't have to give in to the whims of asshats like Geoff Johns who wants a version of the character he's currently writing -- over one that existed for 30 years or so. I don't really have a problem with the new design, but it really made creating a classic Suicide Squad display impossible. Well, that and the fact that they coudln't do one female from that team with members that included Enchantress, Nightshade, Black Orchid, Lashina, Plastique. Oh, they did do Hush Poison Ivy, but there again -- it was modern over classic.

Stepping off my soap box.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on August 27, 2014, 12:59:44 pm
So, while I agree that SSWW wasn't a good choice, how would you have felt about this look-

(http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/culture/2006/06/11/ww70330x500.jpg)


While that isn't the best white outfit she wore during the MOD period, I would have loved to see a Mod era Diana Prince -- but not in a DCUC wave. That's really something DC Direct should have done with a WW boxed set that encompassed her Golden Age, Bronze Age (we didn't even get that, did we?), Mod-era and modern (be that Perez or Dodson). Heck they could still do that and include the nu52 look. Not saying I'd buy it at this point, but it's a good idea.

On the other hand, I don't think Supergirl was ever in any of the DCUC waves, and I really wanted a decent 70s Supergirl (the Alex Ross version is just okay -- and, of course, huge).


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on August 27, 2014, 02:25:45 pm
Geez, I go camping for a week and there's more DCUC convo than in the last three months combined.

I'm a bit cynical as we'll about UDD, but acknowledge that's a bit of sour grapes after everyone  clamoured for it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 30, 2014, 04:22:55 pm
So, while I agree that SSWW wasn't a good choice, how would you have felt about this look-

(http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/culture/2006/06/11/ww70330x500.jpg)

Because IMO, while this look is laughably considered "iconic", a figure of this would have been a total waste of plastic, just as much as SSWW.

Well, I can't agree with you there.  To me, the mod era (Also called the Diana Prince era) of Wonder Woman is most definitely iconic.  That particular look and style of Wonder Woman was inspired by an old British TV show called The Avengers (Nothing to do with Marvel's Avengers).  An actress named Diana Rigg played Emma Peel, a martial arts expert and super spy.  Back in the day, a lot of men had a crush on Diana Rigg.  She was hot, hot, hot.  A lot of women liked Emma Peel, as well.  She could fight her way out of any situation and she was a certified genius.  She was a role model of sorts for girls and young women. 

Here's The Avengers:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Covers/Silver%20Age%20Indies/Avengers001.jpg)

In recent times, Eclipse and Boom have published John Steed and Emma Peel stories.

This is the version of Wonder Woman that I would have liked to have seen done in DCUC:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Covers/70s%20DC/WonderWoman191.jpg)

An iconic look, indeed.  I loved that run of Wonder Woman.  There were some great stories by Denny O'Neil and science fiction author Samuel R. Delany.  And I loved the artwork by the late, great Mike Sekowsky.

That era represented not only a big change in Wonder Woman, but also the comics industry as a whole.  That was right around the time that Marvel got the rights to Conan, Jack Kirby left Marvel for DC and started the Fourth World, Stan Lee stepped down as Editor-In-Chief of Marvel and Roy Thomas took over, Mort Weisinger retired at DC, Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams started their classic runs on Batman and Green Lantern, the first Overstreet Price Guide was published and the San Diego Comic-Con was founded.

Those were some big changes.  And what it all meant was that the Silver Age had ended.  It was over.  And the Bronze Age began.  A new age for a new time.  And the Mod Era of Wonder Woman is one of the biggest symbols of the Bronze Age.

Definitely, a line called DC Universe CLASSICS should have one of the most classic looks for one of it's most iconic characters.

Mike
(Remind me to tell you guys about the time I got Mike Sekowsky's autograph at SDCC back in '83.  He and Julie Schwartz teased me mercilessly the entire weekend.  They were quite the cut ups.)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on August 30, 2014, 04:38:05 pm
And while we're talking about characters that should have been in DCUC ...

It kills me that we never got Golden Age versions of Superman and Wonder Woman.

Action Comics number 1 and Sensation Comics number 1 are two of the most important comics ever published.  These characters have been around for seventy five years.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Covers/Golden%20Age%20DC/Action001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Covers/Golden%20Age%20DC/Superman014.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Covers/JSA/Sensation001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Covers/JSA/WonderWoman001.jpg)

But hey!  We got the Super Powers versions!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Smilies/whatever.gif)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 30, 2014, 04:42:05 pm
Amen Brother Mike!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on September 01, 2014, 11:10:04 am
Really wish we had gotten a Golden Age Superman. Toss in a young and old head, he becomes a new character to go with the main collection, as well as a A-list variant.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 01, 2014, 10:01:39 pm
We all talk about how divided we are, yet we could probably agree on a small number of characters that, NECA ( for example ) could start off with.  Otherwise, something like this would NEVER be possible:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-UNIVERSE-Justice-League-Unlimited-Fan-Demanded-Collection-Box-Set-with-7-figs-/351148697719?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item51c217e877

Perhaps a series of 3-packs, each one with one JLA member, one NTT member, and one JSA member.

 [think] 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 01, 2014, 11:00:58 pm
We all talk about how divided we are, yet we could probably agree on a small number of characters that, NECA ( for example ) could start off with.  Perhaps a series of 3-packs, each one with one JLA member, one NTT member, and one JSA member.

 [think] 

I wonder if there's some kind of agreement with Mattel that they have the market on 6" DC action figures?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 02, 2014, 09:49:43 pm
If that's the case, I hope they eventually decide to do what SD and I mentioned earlier: split the license, and give somebody else the right to do everything pre Y2K.

If that doesn't happen, then that's it.  No more Classic DC toys ever.   [cursing]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 11, 2014, 11:17:09 am
I have no willpower.  [banghead]

I went ahead and ordered 2 each of the Super Powers Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman figures during Matty EA today. I'd really like the Kalibak BAF, but not sure I can justify pulling the trigger on another $90 next month for 3 figures (Mxy, Riddler Lantern, and Gold Superman  ::) ) that are worth about $10.  ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 11, 2014, 10:01:34 pm
Why is Superboy, a "new" figure, $7 less than the repaints?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on September 11, 2014, 11:11:39 pm
I'm bending over for mxy. But that's it!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on September 12, 2014, 11:32:05 am
I had a friend get me the SP figures. Passed on Superboy as I think he'll be easier in the long run. Wish I'd gotten him from China though.
Also the guy at my LCS who used to split the orders with me is now collecting more responsibly and won't be getting these. That makes them more expensive for me. Next order I may have shipped to Maine instead of California as they end up costing less when I do that.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on September 12, 2014, 02:00:39 pm
I need a Superboy, but can't afford him at the moment :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on September 12, 2014, 06:15:26 pm
Next order I may have shipped to Maine instead of California as they end up costing less when I do that.

In. Sane.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on September 13, 2014, 02:19:03 am
Yup. I'd pay half the tax plus split the shipping with a friend in Mass. I'd end up saving a good $20. I've done that before, though some of those figures still live in New England :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 13, 2014, 05:32:43 pm
I'll get Mxy when he shows up at our fave Chinese ebay sellers.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 20, 2014, 05:48:03 pm
I received my two sets of the DCUC Super Powers trinity from Matty today. I'm an opener but I bought a set to keep carded as well. Even though the white mailer boxes are fine, half of them have bent cards. One of the Batman figures (the one with the perfect card, of course) has the bubble detaching. Both Superman figures have some white residue/glue where his cape is supposed to attach to the rest of his costume. One isn't so bad and I think I can clean it up, but this one will be returned for an exchange:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/thatsmyfat/20140920_162422.jpg)

I'm one of those that enjoyed Super Powers back in the day, and these certainly scratch that nostalgia itch - even though they screwed up and used the WRONG card art for Wonder Woman. Fuckers.  I just wish that Matty had some better QC all around. I also think that these cardbacks would've been the way to go with all of the Super Powers inspired figures they released in DCUC, as a Matty/retailer exclusive though. I surely wouldn't have wanted to pay $30 + S&H each though. Not sure why they didn't design the bubble so that these could stand up carded. Dumbasses.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 20, 2014, 07:16:32 pm
Ugggh.....the Matty legacy continues.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Polarboy on September 20, 2014, 08:36:58 pm
I was tempted by these superpowers one but at the last moment could bring myself to pull the trigger, kind of glad now.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on September 21, 2014, 12:11:18 am
I don't think Superboy will be difficult to find on the secondary market, thank goodness.

Might even get a bargain if I'm patient.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on September 21, 2014, 07:40:47 am
I received my two sets of the DCUC Super Powers trinity from Matty today. I'm an opener but I bought a set to keep carded as well. Even though the white mailer boxes are fine, half of them have bent cards. One of the Batman figures (the one with the perfect card, of course) has the bubble detaching. Both Superman figures have some white residue/glue where his cape is supposed to attach to the rest of his costume. One isn't so bad and I think I can clean it up, but this one will be returned for an exchange:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/thatsmyfat/20140920_162422.jpg)

I'm one of those that enjoyed Super Powers back in the day, and these certainly scratch that nostalgia itch - even though they screwed up and used the WRONG card art for Wonder Woman. Fuckers.  I just wish that Matty had some better QC all around. I also think that these cardbacks would've been the way to go with all of the Super Powers inspired figures they released in DCUC, as a Matty/retailer exclusive though. I surely wouldn't have wanted to pay $30 + S&H each though. Not sure why they didn't design the bubble so that these could stand up carded. Dumbasses.

That's horrendous.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 22, 2014, 11:35:34 am
I read over at Matty that somebody received a Wonder Woman that was carded upside down.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 22, 2014, 05:59:57 pm
I hate to say it, but it's time for this line to end.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on September 22, 2014, 09:48:37 pm
Well now you made me open mine up. They are incredible!

Wonder Woman is perfect. The colors, the paint apps, everything. She'll sell very well when they close her out at the Mattel Store.

Batman is THE 70s Batman I remember. Great paint apps and colors, love the gold belt buckle. Mine has a bit of flash under the rib area and some stray cardboard scrap made its way into the bubble. No big deal.

Superman is not the ugly, awful light blue that some of the Chinese figures were years ago. He's the same color as the Kenner Super Powers Superman ... maybe one that's been handled by grubby little hands a bit. I would have liked a cleaner, but not lighter, color. Also  the yellow on his symbol is lighter than the one on Jase's. Not a good enough reason to send him back for a replacement. If this were store merchandise I'd look around for a better one but at this point oh well.

Next month it's just Mxy and Gold Supes for me I think :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on September 22, 2014, 09:53:29 pm
I hate to say it, but it's time for this line to end.

On one hand, I agree, on the other hand, a bad Johnny Thunder, Sand, and Ventriloquist would be better than none at all


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 22, 2014, 09:56:06 pm
I know.  But the more they cut costs, the worse the figures sell.  It's just a downward spiral.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 22, 2014, 10:02:44 pm
I hate to say it, but it's time for this line to end.

I need that Doomsday.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on September 23, 2014, 05:41:19 am
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-p2usAXjCgNs/URTx4z-NaNI/AAAAAAAAOhM/5vWS84LS5_E/s640/yawn4.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 23, 2014, 06:52:49 am
I can't tell if that kid is just bored and yawning or dumping a massive load.... Either way works when you deal with Mattel.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on September 23, 2014, 04:25:30 pm
so this is how Mattel celebrates an anniversary of a past major toy line,my producing the cheapest backer cards they can.the figures themselves are ok( not 30 dollars ok,but nobody made me buy them)but my backer card for batman was bent in the corner,this is the top toy company in the world yet they continue to piss off the masses and continully don't care.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on September 23, 2014, 04:41:59 pm
Yeah I wouldn't call this a celebration :) One of my cards was bent and I'm fine with it, but they know people collect MIP. From the design of the mailer box and the cardboard structure inside you'd think there would be no damage but ...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on September 23, 2014, 05:20:10 pm
Logistics!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on September 23, 2014, 05:34:47 pm
These aren't MOTUC figures. They don't care about what the fans think.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 23, 2014, 06:53:43 pm
The bent cards are especially a pisser here because of the whole nostalgia selling point was the card. I'm still waiting to see what Matty is going to do with these, if anything. All three figures are listed as "currently unavailable", whatever that means.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on September 24, 2014, 07:52:59 am
I just can't wait until they finally go away. I have no shits left to give.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on October 12, 2014, 04:04:37 pm
Looking at those beautiful white wings on the MOTUC Angella I'm more convinced than ever that Dawnstar was one of the Legionnaires planned for the aborted sub. Grrr >:-(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on October 14, 2014, 04:50:13 pm
I'm not a big legions fan but damn if sun boy should've been in the set over matter eater lad.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 14, 2014, 06:41:50 pm
It's not really anybody's fault, but I'm pissed off that ULTRA BOY, TIMBER WOLF, and KARATE KID all exist, but I can never even buy them individually without spending 600 bucks.

And yeah, SUN BOY would have been really cool.  POLAR BOY, too.

DAWNSTAR would be fucking amazing.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on October 15, 2014, 02:55:50 pm
Just bought Mxy today.

I feel like due to loneliness, I just bought an expensive dinner for an ungrateful ex in order to have mediocre sex.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 15, 2014, 03:37:37 pm
Well it'll all be over in a couple of months.  Thankfully.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 15, 2014, 07:31:15 pm
Just bought Mxy today.

I feel like due to loneliness, I just bought an expensive dinner for an ungrateful ex in order to have mediocre sex.

 :D

*sigh*


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on October 16, 2014, 12:55:58 pm
It's not really anybody's fault, but I'm pissed off that ULTRA BOY, TIMBER WOLF, and KARATE KID all exist, but I can never even buy them individually without spending 600 bucks.

And yeah, SUN BOY would have been really cool.  POLAR BOY, too.

DAWNSTAR would be fucking amazing.

The sad fact is that another Legion set would sell -- especially for those salivating for anything DCUC-related, but Mattel can't be bothered. I know that some characters require a bit of detail, but characters like Sun Boy, Element Lad, Dream Girl, Light Lass and Chemical King are all in leotards with a collar or belt added. Pretty simple to produce. I think the point of Matter-Eater Lad being included was that there would be more Legionnaires -- and it never happened unless you include Starman -- who was conceived as a JSA figure -- with the alternative head being added later (matching exactly what DCD did earlier -- natch).


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 16, 2014, 07:29:30 pm
Goddammit.  CHEMICAL KING would be cool, too.   [banghead]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on October 17, 2014, 11:58:15 pm
Mxy arrived today. He's too small and too big :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on October 18, 2014, 10:35:08 am
Mxy arrived today. He's too small and too big :(

What do you mean?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on October 18, 2014, 12:30:03 pm
He's too small to be a satisfying purchase, he's overall larger than I think he should be, and his head is too big for his body


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Freak Studio on October 18, 2014, 02:27:31 pm
Sounds like crap... The guy responsible should resign!

Oh, wait...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on October 18, 2014, 03:46:26 pm
Point when I get home to my computer :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 18, 2014, 05:08:44 pm
He's too small to be a satisfying purchase, he's overall larger than I think he should be, and his head is too big for his body

C'mon Hong Kong sellers  [tap]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on October 18, 2014, 08:08:03 pm
He's too small to be a satisfying purchase, he's overall larger than I think he should be, and his head is too big for his body

C'mon Hong Kong sellers  [tap]

Yep.  That's the only way I'd ever get one too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on November 20, 2014, 01:54:56 pm
I will most certainly be getting Doomsday in EA, and a Hook Aquaman if they put up at a good price. 

What they are NOT going to do is get me to make more than one order to rape me on shipping more than once.  I don't care if they put that girl with the big titties whenever Jack Knight posts on a flash sale.  One order....thats it. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 20, 2014, 02:47:15 pm
So let me get this straight......people with He-Man subscriptions get early access to Doomsday?
Yet as someone who loyally bought a DCUC sub.....which they canned.....I have to wait until the next day and hope for leftovers?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on November 20, 2014, 03:09:16 pm
So let me get this straight......people with He-Man subscriptions get early access to Doomsday?
Yet as someone who loyally bought a DCUC sub.....which they canned.....I have to wait until the next day and hope for leftovers?

Yeah, kinda lame. I don't even think I was ever familiar with this 7 days of Black Friday nonsense either. I'll probably have to try and buy it while I'm at work.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 20, 2014, 05:00:50 pm
So let me get this straight......people with He-Man subscriptions get early access to Doomsday?
Yet as someone who loyally bought a DCUC sub.....which they canned.....I have to wait until the next day and hope for leftovers?

Yeah, kinda lame. I don't even think I was ever familiar with this 7 days of Black Friday nonsense either. I'll probably have to try and buy it while I'm at work.

4am for me >:(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on November 20, 2014, 07:34:53 pm
Hmmm... do I want a Doomsday?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on November 21, 2014, 03:09:17 am
I must admit to being a little ticked off.

Having dutifully bought the Super Powers figs as they went on sale - and paying two sets of shipping, then getting gyped last week on having to get my MotU sub, EA Battle Ram and DoS figs sent in 3 separate packages that will actually arrive together - plus having bought the containment suit Doomsday when they said it was going to be the only one released I now find out I could pretty much have got them all next week, at a a discount and all shipped for free!!!

Bad enough they cannot even combine things a la the Big Bad Toy Store Pile of Loot - not they rub salt in the wounds with this move???

I am so looking forward to my MotU sub being over (and getting Damien Wayne) and maybe just enjoying the collection without ever having to deal with this rip off mob ever again.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on November 21, 2014, 06:56:45 pm
I'm looking at the prices for the dec 15th sale gwildor is 37,Spinnerella is 33,Mermista is still 27.what a way for Matty to screw ya the last month.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 21, 2014, 08:50:06 pm
I must admit to being a little ticked off.

Having dutifully bought the Super Powers figs as they went on sale - and paying two sets of shipping, then getting gyped last week on having to get my MotU sub, EA Battle Ram and DoS figs sent in 3 separate packages that will actually arrive together - plus having bought the containment suit Doomsday when they said it was going to be the only one released I now find out I could pretty much have got them all next week, at a a discount and all shipped for free!!!

Bad enough they cannot even combine things a la the Big Bad Toy Store Pile of Loot - not they rub salt in the wounds with this move???

I am so looking forward to my MotU sub being over (and getting Damien Wayne) and maybe just enjoying the collection without ever having to deal with this rip off mob ever again.

I cannot disagree with you having a reason to be pissed off. That's pretty shitty.

But then it is Matty and the incomparable Digital River.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on November 25, 2014, 10:25:03 am
The old sub figures are $6!  You know how many they must have left if they are willing to sell them for $6!?!?!?!?!?!?  And they wonder why the fucking sub failed.  What assholes! 

Hook Aquaman and others from the failed year are $23, which I'm NOT paying.  I'll just wait for next year whey THEY'RE $6 too! 

MOTC are $21.60 or something like that.  All I bought was Doomsday, which comes to $55 after they're fucking ripp off shipping.  I can't wait till this site is done. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on November 25, 2014, 05:06:13 pm
I'm pissed off about the 55 for doomsday too,I'm looking forward to it ending as well.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on November 25, 2014, 06:57:35 pm
Condom-on Doomsday sold out already.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 25, 2014, 07:18:05 pm
Condom-on Doomsday sold out already.

I hope there are allocations for each day?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on November 26, 2014, 08:41:05 am
Got Doomsday, Griffin, and the newest weapons pak. Was contemplating Ice too since I still need her, but I'm sure she'll have her $6 day eventually and that price for griffin was too good to pass.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on November 26, 2014, 12:35:01 pm
Work had a busy rush for a moment, but I did grab Doomsday and the Ghostbusters first thing and it was fairly painless except for the money shelled out. :)

Might of been nice to get some guys for custom purposes, but I'm not super big on that and most of the $6 stuff I would have tried to nab was sold out already anyway. Just quickly stuck Doomsday and the 2 two-packs in the cart and ordered.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 26, 2014, 01:33:06 pm
Got up at 4am

Added Doomsday.

"Payment Authorization Failed"

Over

and

over.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on November 26, 2014, 02:36:10 pm
Lots of cheap fodder. I bought "bareback" Doomsday. Added an ozymandias that I'm planning on getting a customizer to turn into silver age headbanded Jor-El. At that point I took a couple of flight stands, as it was cheaper to get to $99 and get the stands than it was to pay for shipping to Canada.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on November 26, 2014, 03:03:32 pm
Added an ozymandias that I'm planning on getting a customizer to turn into silver age headbanded Jor-El.

That's a neat idea.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on November 26, 2014, 03:03:55 pm
Got up at 4am

Added Doomsday.

"Payment Authorization Failed"

Over

and

over.

Did it ever go through?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 26, 2014, 04:20:05 pm
Got up at 4am

Added Doomsday.

"Payment Authorization Failed"

Over

and

over.

Did it ever go through?

Nope.

The card details stored on the site failed.

I entered them again as a new card. Failed.

Tried an entirely different card. Failed.

Changed billing and shipping addresses hoping that was it. Failed.

Anyhoo, Hyperion has been kind enough to help me out.  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on November 26, 2014, 04:40:42 pm
Added an ozymandias that I'm planning on getting a customizer to turn into silver age headbanded Jor-El.
[/quote
Added an ozymandias that I'm planning on getting a customizer to turn into silver age headbanded Jor-El.

That's a neat idea.

That's a neat idea.

I wish I could take credit. But it came from Rod Keith.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on November 26, 2014, 04:53:45 pm
Not seeing any DCUC stuff.

But then, I don't have early access.

Was Superboy on sale?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on November 26, 2014, 05:33:30 pm
Dude, click the 7 days of Cyber Monday icon. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: KOLOBOSREXX on November 26, 2014, 06:41:56 pm
...great sale at Mattycollector!  picked up Doomsday Unleashed, Ocean-Master, Ra's Al Ghul, Rorschach, Phantom Stranger, Larfleeze,  and King Randor, only $100.60 and free shopping! :)  Just missed Constantine and Wally West though... :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on November 26, 2014, 07:43:51 pm
The only figure I'm interested in is full price.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 29, 2014, 03:27:37 pm
Doomsday was it.

That was the last new figure I am going to be buying to add to my DCUC Universe.

It's now over.

Wow.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: dozymuppet on November 29, 2014, 05:42:20 pm
If they had Metron and TH Firestorm in stock, I might have been interested in picking up some other junk to make up $99. But no.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on November 29, 2014, 07:14:11 pm
I need Superboy but the pricing is bullshit.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on November 29, 2014, 08:39:34 pm
If bareback (love that name) Doomsday is still available when I order Damian, I'll get him.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: LukeyLuke on November 30, 2014, 02:07:58 pm
Unleashed Doomsday was it for me. That's a pretty great figure to cap off what was a fantastic line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on November 30, 2014, 08:59:02 pm
can almost guarantee the super powers stuff will be six dollars next year.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on November 30, 2014, 09:55:50 pm
can almost guarantee the super powers stuff should never have been made. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 30, 2014, 10:24:24 pm
can almost guarantee the super powers stuff should never have been mentioned.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: LukeyLuke on November 30, 2014, 11:13:15 pm
can almost guarantee the super powers stuff looks pretty damn cool on card but is way over priced and therefore not for me


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on December 01, 2014, 09:16:30 am
can almost guarantee i'm sorry I brought up super powers.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 01, 2014, 07:49:42 pm
 :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on December 01, 2014, 08:28:43 pm
 [applause]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: KOLOBOSREXX on December 02, 2014, 12:57:07 pm
...I  can't believe they jumped the Watchmen back up to $25!  At $15 they would have probably sold out!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on December 02, 2014, 02:44:38 pm
Shocked that BB Doomsday and the other DC figures I ordered are out for delivery today. Supposedly Matty doesn't actually have enough BB Doomsday in their warehouse to fill the orders. The rest of the stock is en route from China.  ::)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on December 02, 2014, 02:55:51 pm
yeah I read the email about stock crossing the pacific,but mine looks to be en route already,the sooner the better don't trust digital river over the last fiasco with my order.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: LukeyLuke on December 02, 2014, 07:24:27 pm
I got my shipping notice for Unleahed Doomsday 2 days ago. I expect it Thursday or Friday


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 03, 2014, 12:10:00 am
I usually get my figures about 4-6 weeks after the shipping notice. As I've gotten nothing yet, I imagine I'll be getting bareback Doomsday in Feb.

And they nerve of them to give me free shipping so I can't complain about how poor the service is for what I paid. Bastards!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on December 03, 2014, 05:38:13 pm
to my surprise,BB doomsday arrived,huge figure with very nice collector's packaging,nice that mattel made that effort to end the line with a figure of this caliber.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 03, 2014, 05:59:27 pm
to my surprise,BB doomsday arrived,huge figure with very nice collector's packaging,nice that mattel made that effort to end the line with a figure of this caliber.

Hooray.

With my free international shipping I'm expecting mine in March.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: LukeyLuke on December 04, 2014, 06:26:27 pm
Doomsday is here, and he is amazing!!! [yess] [yess] [yess]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on December 04, 2014, 08:40:49 pm
Direct quote from the back of the Doomsday box...

"...Mattel and Matty Collector end the series with the most asked for figure in the DC Universe..."

I'm going to type that again

"...Mattel and Matty Collector end the series with the most asked for figure in the DC Universe..." 

They really are the stupidest company in the world today.  They still just don't get it.  Holding back what fans wanted...or being to cheap to do a character properly in figure form....kills lines.  Putting out the crap that THEY want to make because its cheaper kills lines.  Pushing out a turd once a fan has committed blindly to buying it kills lines!!!!!  How do they no understand that DC figures in 4HM form could have gone on FOREVER!!!!  FUCKING IDIOTS!!!

And the worst part, this Doomsday is the best figure in the line.....no question about it.  Its perfect!   Would have looked really nice with the rest of the villains before I sold most of them. 

I hate Mattel!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 05, 2014, 02:41:21 am
There's something broken with fandom when we haven't had Big Raj's pics yet.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 05, 2014, 02:34:55 pm
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/12/doomsday-turns-into-doomsdelay/


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 05, 2014, 05:14:29 pm
Until I changed my shipping to the free option I was being quoted $70 for shipping so I can wait.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 05, 2014, 05:18:57 pm
I bought more than i would have to get to the free shipping option.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on December 05, 2014, 07:02:07 pm
I feel it appropriate that the line went out like this.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on December 05, 2014, 07:27:12 pm
They should burn one of those Green Lantern as The Riddler figures with every order that's delayed.

Fixed


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on December 07, 2014, 11:53:46 am
Just wait til the pirates attack the boat carrying the figures...THEN you'll see the shit hit the fan.   [sign]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on December 07, 2014, 01:39:29 pm
Isn't that what kept happening to Shocker Toys?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on December 11, 2014, 12:27:02 pm
66 Batmobile is on sale for $30 at walmart.com.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: KOLOBOSREXX on December 29, 2014, 03:53:40 pm
...I received Constantine, Black Mask (YAY!!), Larfleeze, Ra's Al Ghul, Ocean-Master, Rorschach, Wally West, Reverse-Flash, Phantom Stranger, Hawk, Obsidian, and Commander Steel from my Sweety and her parents for my b-day/ Christmas!! :) 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 29, 2014, 05:46:40 pm
Good score chaps!!

Anyone get their Doomy yet?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on December 29, 2014, 06:12:59 pm
Good score chaps!!

Anyone get their Doomy yet?

No! Or my stuff I ordered from the cyber/black Friday sale. :'(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 29, 2014, 07:04:28 pm
Good score chaps!!

Anyone get their Doomy yet?

No! Or my stuff I ordered from the cyber/black Friday sale. :'(

I got a "sorry we haven't shipped your figs, it was the assholes on the wharf's fault" email one day, then the next day I get a "it's shipped!" email.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on December 29, 2014, 07:28:20 pm
I didn't get a sorry email or a "it's shipped" email as of yet.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: AlwaysOptimistic on December 30, 2014, 05:48:40 pm
I passed on Doomsday once the leashed one was sold out, but am fairly happy with the Fire, Ice, Ra's and Elongated Man I'd ordered.  Was bummed that I missed Wally & Constantine, but those 4 definitely filled in some holes in the collection for a good price. 

Good luck to everyone waiting on their orders. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 09, 2015, 05:08:27 am
FYI - Finally got a shipping notice for Doomsday tonight/this morning.

My original order was over $100, so I was not charged shipping. The tracking number however, is the same as for the items that already shipped from the Black Friday Sale.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on January 09, 2015, 05:22:53 am
I got my notice too. Plus shipping even though they also charged shipping on the rest of the order. Over $70 Australian for this damned figure. Better be fecking awesome.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on January 09, 2015, 03:36:52 pm
I don't know if its 70 dollar aussie awesome,but its a very nice figure,probably their best.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 09, 2015, 03:54:53 pm
I got my notice too. Plus shipping even though they also charged shipping on the rest of the order. Over $70 Australian for this damned figure. Better be fecking awesome.

I got two in order to get free shipping. I hope he's the next Ram Man.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on January 09, 2015, 04:24:58 pm
So, 47 days later and still no figures from the Cyber sale. I got a e mail response, "sorry for the delay" blah, blah, blah. I'm pretty sure they have disappeared, probably to the same place that odd socks go?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 09, 2015, 07:56:03 pm
I got my shipping notice for Doomy as well.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 12, 2015, 09:26:19 pm
Great Rao! I thought I'd have this P.O.S. by now...

Quote
Date   Time   Description   Location
1/10/2015   02:23 AM   In transit   COMMERCE,CA 900403416
1/10/2015   02:11 AM   In transit   COMMERCE,CA 900403416
1/10/2015   02:11 AM   Electronic Shipping Sent to USPS   
1/9/2015   12:40 AM   Arrived at Shipping Facility   COMMERCE,CA 900403416
1/8/2015   11:08 PM   Electronic Shipping Info Received   Ontario,CA 91761

Still no Doomsday.

In the meantime, the DC Direct Ferro Lad and Mattel Infinite Heroes Starro I ordered the day after I got my shipping notice have both arrived.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 13, 2015, 08:18:41 am
Who was selling the DC Direct Ferro Lad?

I bought mine when it was released -- definitely one of the better DCD Legion productions.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 13, 2015, 09:29:53 am
Who was selling the DC Direct Ferro Lad?

I bought mine when it was released -- definitely one of the better DCD Legion productions.

A dude on ebay. With shipping included it was a little over $20.

I ended up getting Sun Boy, Mon-El and now Ferro Lad to stick with my Mattel Legion gang. I'll probably try to nab Invisible Kid if I ever see him for a decent price with good feedback.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: KOLOBOSREXX on January 13, 2015, 11:57:13 am
...Finally got my Doomsy!  ;D  He's a BEAST of a figure!  Think I may display him seperately with the other Reign of the Supermen characters!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 13, 2015, 05:24:32 pm
...Finally got my Doomsy!  ;D  He's a BEAST of a figure!  Think I may display him seperately with the other Reign of the Supermen characters!

Hooray! Mine should be here about June.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 13, 2015, 06:12:32 pm
Got mine today as well.  In a pentagonal package with cardboard backing, wrapped in cardboard, in white mailer box the size of Fish's porn collection, wrapped in loose paper, in an cardboard box the size of Scotty's porn collection.  He's the Russian Nesting Doll of toys... which I suppose would be an actual Russian Nesting Doll, but you get my drift.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 13, 2015, 08:05:28 pm
Got mine today as well.  In a pentagonal package with cardboard backing, wrapped in cardboard, in white mailer box the size of Fish's porn collection, wrapped in loose paper, in an cardboard box the size of Scotty's porn collection.  He's the Russian Nesting Doll of toys... which I suppose would be an actual Russian Nesting Doll, but you get my drift.

Mine's all digital now, but Scotty has a secret mancave where he keeps his and I snapped a photo last time I was there. This is A thru F.

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/kevings/Electronics/CIMG0459.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/kevings/media/Electronics/CIMG0459.jpg.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 13, 2015, 09:33:45 pm
See special restrictions *




















































































* Only 1:12 scale porn collection will fit in either cardboard box


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on January 14, 2015, 05:50:20 am
Got mine today as well.  In a pentagonal package with cardboard backing, wrapped in cardboard, in white mailer box the size of Fish's porn collection, wrapped in loose paper, in an cardboard box the size of Scotty's porn collection.  He's the Russian Nesting Doll of toys... which I suppose would be an actual Russian Nesting Doll, but you get my drift.

Mine's all digital now, but Scotty has a secret mancave where he keeps his and I snapped a photo last time I was there. This is A thru F.

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/kevings/Electronics/CIMG0459.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/kevings/media/Electronics/CIMG0459.jpg.html)

Well, since we're sharing happy snaps, here's the one I took of Ben the last time he was over....

(http://www.sportsfail.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/soccer-fail-underwear.jpg)

We don't invite him to dance parties anymore....


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 14, 2015, 05:07:39 pm
Really?

A beautiful night for beautiful people and you had to go and post the one bad photo that was taken of me.  >:(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 15, 2015, 06:37:20 am

I ended up getting Sun Boy, Mon-El and now Ferro Lad to stick with my Mattel Legion gang. I'll probably try to nab Invisible Kid if I ever see him for a decent price with good feedback.

Oh, that Mon-El (and Ultra Boy that was released with it). I don't why Georg thought releasing Silver Age versions of the characters was a good idea, but when the first wave had a lukewarm receptions, reducing the quality of the figures almost ensure that any future offerings would fail as well.

Despite the lack of articulation, the founding member figures were great sculpts -- but just seemed so dated. They would have been nice alternatives -- or something offered down the road, but were from the wrong era to kick off the Legion figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on January 15, 2015, 12:39:19 pm

I ended up getting Sun Boy, Mon-El and now Ferro Lad to stick with my Mattel Legion gang. I'll probably try to nab Invisible Kid if I ever see him for a decent price with good feedback.


Oh, that Mon-El (and Ultra Boy that was released with it). I don't why Georg thought releasing Silver Age versions of the characters was a good idea, but when the first wave had a lukewarm receptions, reducing the quality of the figures almost ensure that any future offerings would fail as well.

Despite the lack of articulation, the founding member figures were great sculpts -- but just seemed so dated. They would have been nice alternatives -- or something offered down the road, but were from the wrong era to kick off the Legion figures.

Yeah, it's sad when I start thinking about Fatal Five Happy Meal toys...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on March 28, 2015, 03:19:26 pm
I tried to take this survey but accidentally went forward without answering the first page. When I backspaced it said I'd already completed the survey. Oh well. Not sure if it let's you comment on scale.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7DJQ79K


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on March 28, 2015, 04:11:29 pm
Weird question: Would anybody be upset if they did any of the LEGIONNAIRES that were in the Boxed Set?  I only ask because....

A) That was a MATTEL thing and this is a separate line/company

B) Surely there are others out there like me that could not afford that set, but would like some of those characters


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 28, 2015, 04:31:40 pm
I'd like new characters, but I'd never begrudge someone else getting what they want.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on March 28, 2015, 04:34:37 pm
What are we talking about exactly? If the DCUC Legionnaires were re-released as singles? As Multiverse 3 and 3/4ths?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on March 28, 2015, 04:45:54 pm
Oops.  My bad....I meant to post this over in the DC ICONS thread.  [banghead]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on March 28, 2015, 04:48:55 pm
Oh. No worries.

I wouldn't mind some Legion Love in Icons. Even if it were characters Mattel had already done.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 28, 2015, 04:54:18 pm
I need a Superboy and Damian.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on March 28, 2015, 06:04:05 pm
i got superboy prime the other day at my lcs.forgot i never got it and it was just ten bucks.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 28, 2015, 07:07:18 pm
SBP was a good figure. Got mine from Mike S. When they first came out, along with Red Robin.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on March 28, 2015, 07:26:43 pm
The DCUC SBP? Really?

I can't stand that head sculpt.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 28, 2015, 07:42:19 pm
I liked it. The DCD one had a better head, but the DCUC one looked better overall, IMO.  I even had issues with mine (had a misassembled arm I had to boil and pop.)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on March 28, 2015, 07:46:56 pm
I guess I just would have liked and expected Prime to match the Superboy from the Legion Box Set.

I know he's armored, but even if you look at the body type, it's not exactly the same teen type of body.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on March 29, 2015, 05:06:25 am
I completely forgot about that figure. Still don't have one.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on April 02, 2015, 08:35:23 pm
Finally ordered Superboy, now I need Damian...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 07, 2015, 08:38:42 am
http://plasticmemorial.blogspot.ca/2015/01/interview-mattels-bill-benecke-dishes.html#!/2015/01/interview-mattels-bill-benecke-dishes.html

Terrific interview.  I'm trying hard not to read between the lines.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on April 07, 2015, 08:58:19 am
That was very sweet actually.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 07, 2015, 02:33:21 pm
I just like the fact that he plead the 5th when asked about new six inch figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 07, 2015, 02:45:56 pm
And I love his final wave.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on April 08, 2015, 01:46:28 pm
Superboy finally arrived, so now I only need Damian, and perhaps, Doomsday.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on April 13, 2015, 07:08:18 pm
http://plasticmemorial.blogspot.ca/2015/04/masters-of-dc-universe-interview-with-4.html

Painful to see how many figures I *realllllly* wanted were close to getting made.  Sgt. Rock, Warlord, etc...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 13, 2015, 08:03:18 pm
That's depressing.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 13, 2015, 09:53:26 pm
Sunuvabitch!!! [banghead]  Almost had a WARLORD. [cursing]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on April 13, 2015, 11:07:44 pm
Scott Beatty!  I miss that guy.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on April 15, 2015, 01:40:15 pm
Really nice guy but also a bit starstruck. I remember how excited he was that DC had given them the advance design for the New 52 STRIPE. Did he ever actually appear?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 07, 2015, 09:25:29 pm
http://plasticmemorial.blogspot.ca/2015/05/that-was-then-scott-toyguru-neitlich.html


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 07, 2015, 09:35:54 pm
Gonna get another chance at Damian on the 15th, thank goodness.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 07, 2015, 09:46:51 pm
I'd really like him to explain how Hasbro/Marvel can keep Legends going and Mattel can't.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 07, 2015, 09:47:00 pm
http://plasticmemorial.blogspot.ca/2015/05/that-was-then-scott-toyguru-neitlich.html

Christ...

More blaming the fans, more Super Powers chest thumping...Glad he's gone. Too bad he took the line down with him.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 07, 2015, 10:22:32 pm
Right.  The demise of this line had absolutely nothing to do with frontloading as much Rainbow Lantern and Super Powers/Friends shit as possible without being too obvious about it.  He is truly a walking skidmark.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 07, 2015, 11:58:07 pm
I'd really like him to explain how Hasbro/Marvel can keep Legends going and Mattel can't.

I'd give you fifty points for that if I could.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 08, 2015, 01:41:24 am
I blame you guys too. Damn you all for killing this line!!!  >:(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 08, 2015, 02:52:54 am
Fuck you too, buddy.  [whistle]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 08, 2015, 06:40:06 am
I'd really like him to explain how Hasbro/Marvel can keep Legends going and Mattel can't.

I'd give you fifty points for that if I could.

Thanks man.  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 08, 2015, 08:24:02 am
I blame you guys too. Damn you all for killing this line!!!  >:(

If YOU'D have only bought every Sinestro, Torn Shirt, Shit-Stain Batman variant, WE wouldn't be having this conversation!!!!  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 08, 2015, 08:40:39 am
I forgot all about shit stained Batman. 

Jesus wept.  Who in the fuck ever thought that was a good idea? ::)  Oh yeah, Scott did.   [banghead]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 08, 2015, 11:21:42 am
Sigh....crossing fingers and hoping for the best from the DC ICONS line.  [innocent]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on May 08, 2015, 03:03:07 pm
Disappointing. I was hoping that now that he's no longer there, we would have gotten more truth from him.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on May 08, 2015, 03:04:32 pm
And while I get how another Legion 12 pack may have been onerous when they were putting out 5 waves/year, I don't get why they couldn't have done it when the sub was going. Makes no sense why they wouldn't replicate that success.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 08, 2015, 03:34:23 pm
Sigh....crossing fingers and hoping for the best from the DC ICONS line.  [innocent]


I'd like to be optimistic.  But I know what that gets me.  And honestly, what I want at this point is some very niche oriented stuff.  Highly unlikely to happen even when DCUC was going on all cylinders.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 08, 2015, 03:50:36 pm
Seriously though, how did this line fail, yet ML can not only survive, but thrive.

I can buy a figure of Machine Man, for Christ's sake.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 08, 2015, 04:19:56 pm
I'ma go with corporate greed and gross mismanagement.  And for a Republican like me to say corporate greed, it has to be really bad.  10 million dollar bonuses?  For going into the shitter?  Fuck you.  Shareholders should have revolted.

Other than that, I'd say internal Mattel politics.  Blatant stupidity on the part of DC/WB.  And the Geoff Johnsing of the line.  Very apparent in the later waves. 

And God help me for saying this...too much fan interaction.  It fractured and the fanbase.  Flame wars were common amoung groups of fans advocating for this team or that family, or even from one specific comic.  And that doesn't even count the fucking SP/SF clownshoes.  And yes, before anyone says it, I was right in the middle of it rolling in the mud with the Fwooshers and everyone else.  And yeah, I still hold a small grudge against all the fucking SP shit we had to endure.  Not my proudest moment in my virtual life.

Thing is, the more Mattel interacted with us, the worse we looked.  It got to a point where Mattel didn't know what to do anymore.  They couldn't win.  Hasbro does not interact all that much with fans where Marvel Legends is concerned.  And everyone seems much more content.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on May 08, 2015, 04:54:28 pm
I had a relationship just like that!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 08, 2015, 04:55:46 pm
Though I still want Dani Moonstar.

And an assload of the X-Kids.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on May 08, 2015, 05:28:26 pm
yeah jesse falcon was real interactive for example over at the fwoosh,but when legends went to hasbro,he disappeared but legends kept and keeps going.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 09, 2015, 12:20:45 am
And while I get how another Legion 12 pack may have been onerous when they were putting out 5 waves/year, I don't get why they couldn't have done it when the sub was going. Makes no sense why they wouldn't replicate that success.

I call bullshit on not being able to manage another set due to resources. There's plenty of people who would give their time to help with a project like that.

In fact I'd have given Scotty's left nut and worked for free to be part of a second Legion set.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 01:43:42 am
I am a proud wearer of SP/SF clownshoes.  :D

Actually the mere mention of some kind of Brainiac Ship got me all excited.

I had a crappy custom I made as a kid that was a circular piece of Styrofoam that could seat my SP Brainiac and then I drew his face on a rather thin "front" and stuck all the Doc Ock arms that had fallen off from my Secret Wars figure on the bottom as the tendrils.

But yeah, more Legion dudes in the subs would have been welcome. Second-guessing character choices made in hindsight, someone like Uncle Sam pisses me off, b/c he started a brand new team, as opposed to adding to (or completing) an existing "team in progress" like the Legion, Outsiders, JSA, Suicide Squad, etc.

Also no one ever seems to mention that the Marvel film tie-ins are usually incredibly successful film franchises these days. When Mattel attempted multi-media tie-ins we got Public Enemies, Young Justice, Injustice Gods Among Us and instant clearance GL movie toys.

While I've got some favorites from all those lines (well maybe not Injustice), I can't imagine they sold very well. I suppose you can point to the Arkham Video Games as the strongest performing multi-media tie-in beyond the Movie Masters stuff. But if you are a classics only snob to the point that a Captain Boomerang figure is "Johnsed", all those lines probably meant spit-all to you. For a time I was DC Universe Classics only with the goal to team build (my curse and disease is team-building) the Super Powers/Superfriends and the Legion of Doom. It was more economically sound to buy lots and with those lots came more DCUC figures that weren't part of that narrow definition and goal. They still were fun and mostly "Classic."

I think eventually I tried my hand at both DC and Marvel movie/multi-media tie-in figures. I'm not losing sleep over not completing the GL Movie Masters or the Arkham Line, but I still ended up with a lot of them.

I think both fans and Scott could be narrow-minded in terms of character choices. But at least completing the character roster of Super Powers was a goal (and one attained). Maybe you'd prefer it would have been the JLU character roster instead. I wouldn't have complained if we got a Goldface or Evilstar for Green Lantern to fight with either.

I am sort of tired of seeing Marvel Movie fans cry about having to buy comic figures and vice versa from Classic-only buyers.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on May 09, 2015, 09:21:21 am
I am a proud wearer of SP/SF clownshoes.  :D

Actually the mere mention of some kind of Brainiac Ship got me all excited.

 [hi5] [exactly] [beer]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 10:32:20 am
Never meant to offend gents.  ;)  But I'm probably about ten years older than the average member here and SP means nothing to me.  And even as a youngster, I thought SF was a cheesedick cartoon.  All I wanted was a broad based purely comic accurate DC action figure line like we've never had before.  Turns out my sense of entitlement was just as bad as the SP/SF fans sense of entitlement.  Only difference was you guys had an advocate way up in the food chain at Mattel.  Two advocates in fact if you count Beneke.  It still boggles my mind that the retail line was shitcanned shortly after all of the crucial SP figures were completed.  And how the entire line waves bye-bye on a SP fuck you from Mattel. 

Resentment....bubbling.....to....surface.....must......control..... [banghead]

We were one figure away from a complete Satellite JLA.  Five figures away from a complete GA JSA.  And came up with squat.  Truthfully, Titans fans got boned more than anyone.  I mean even Doom Patrol and Metal Men got done.

And about niche buying...guilty.  ;D   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 10:43:04 am
Never meant to offend gents.  ;)  But I'm probably about ten years older than the average member here and SP means nothing to me.  And even as a youngster, I thought SF was a cheesedick cartoon.  All I wanted was a broad based purely comic accurate DC action figure line like we've never had before.  Turns out my sense of entitlement was just as bad as the SP/SF fans sense of entitlement.  Only difference was you guys had an advocate way up in the food chain at Mattel.  Two advocates in fact if you count Beneke.  It still boggles my mind that the retail line was shitcanned shortly after all of the crucial SP figures were completed.  And how the entire line waves bye-bye on a SP fuck you from Mattel. 

Resentment....bubbling.....to....surface.....must......control..... [banghead]

We were one figure away from a complete Satellite JLA.  Five figures away from a complete GA JSA.  And came up with squat.  Truthfully, Titans fans got boned more than anyone.  I mean even Doom Patrol and Metal Men got done.

And about niche buying...guilty.  ;D   

I would be even happier if your niches had been filled. You may be against my clownshoes, but I'm still on your side while clomping away.  ;)

I think perhaps your Superfriends experience is my Fox Kids X-Men experience. But I can still appreciate that it opened up a generation younger than myself to a larger comic book universe. But all those Legends collectors crying for re-dos of Jim Lee Cyclops and wondering why we got Vamp/Jumpsuit Jubilee? Even with all the millions of copies X-Men #1 sold, I wouldn't pretend the "cheesedick" X-Men cartoon has nothing to do with their wish list. Also, divide X-Men #1's number of copies sold by 5 and then make up some algebraic equation that weeds out all the multi-copy speculator buying whores and it's probably less than the number of kids (and in my case teens) who woke up to watch a poorly animated cartoon about one of the most popular comic books of the day.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 11:55:08 am
The good thing about all of the SP/SF attention is that most of these figures were acctually comic accurate.  But I've identified 17 figures with no other purpose than to fill out the SP/SF quotient.  By contrast, there were only 12 nU figures done.  Including two variants and one SDCC exclusive.  We also got 14 absolutely useless Rainbow Deputies and Rainbow repeat Lanterns including Batman.   ::)  To a classics guy like me, these are all missed JLA, JSA, TT, LSH, Freedom Fighters, All Star Squadron, and Infinity Inc. members that coulda' been made.

Missed oppurtunities to me. 

And in the interview, Neitlich was talking about doing Silicon given the chance.  Baby Jesus wept.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 12:18:14 pm
17? That would be a very granular count by my estimation. Especially if I did the reverse granular count I'd get like 2 figures.  ;)

I can agree to a degree about the Lanterns, specifically Sinestro Batman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on May 09, 2015, 12:26:32 pm
I like the SP figures, but I understand where the hate comes from as I feel that same rage towards the rainbow Lanterns and nu52 figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 12:29:55 pm
I would have preferred Englehart Lanterns or Gerard Jones Era Lanterns, but they still are "world builders", unlike say Shit-stain and Sinestro Batman or even to a degree Bat-Zarro.

And it's not even a case of Now Cap is lame cause he's new with those Batmen. They simply don't fit well anywhere and are ultimately one-off's and of the moment as well. At least with Now Cap, you can pick up Now Thor and soon Now Iron Man and before you know it, you've got Hickman's Avengers.

Where do you put Sinestro Batman? Not with the Sinestro corp, not really. So for a panel of story, we got yet another Batman figure out of it? Lame. At least 80% of Super Powers and Friends figures were in Earth-One toy tie-in comics and some later in the Post-Crisis Universe as well.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 12:34:54 pm
Hate is such a strong word to use about action figures and fellow fans.  I think I woulda been happy if Mattel had just given SP/SF their own line like Public Enemies or Young Justice and been done with it.  Cherry pickers delight.

Repaints are another matter entirely.  Look at Captain Atom and envision a GA Johnny Quick paint job.  Simple.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 12:41:44 pm
Hate is such a strong word to use about action figures and fellow fans.  I think I woulda been happy if Mattel had just given SP/SF their own line like Public Enemies or Young Justice and been done with it.  Cherry pickers delight.

Repaints are another matter entirely.  Look at Captain Atom and envision a GA Johnny Quick paint job.  Simple.

I would have been fine with that. They probably should have made one of those side-subs for the sub. Nobody's yelling that Doc Manhattan took their Atzek slot now are they?  :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 12:44:20 pm
Maybe that Piffy guy on Fwoosh.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 12:46:55 pm
 ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 01:34:39 pm
17? That would be a very granular count by my estimation. Especially if I did the reverse granular count I'd get like 2 figures.  ;)

Clark Kent from DCSH
Red Parademon (plus I hate army builders)
SP Mantis
SP Steppenwolf
Wonder Twins
Cyclotron
Golden Pharaoh
SP Mr. Freeze
Samurai
Black Vulcan
El Dorado
Apache Chief
SP Penguin
SP Golden Superman
Lucha Riddler
Brown Kalibak

 ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 01:40:26 pm
17? That would be a very granular count by my estimation. Especially if I did the reverse granular count I'd get like 2 figures.  ;)

Clark Kent from DCSH
Red Parademon (plus I hate army builders)
SP Mantis
SP Steppenwolf
Wonder Twins
Cyclotron
Golden Pharaoh
SP Mr. Freeze
Samurai
Black Vulcan
El Dorado
Apache Chief
SP Penguin
SP Golden Superman
Lucha Riddler
Brown Kalibak

 ;D

I'd give you 3 from that list (SP Golden Superman,Black Vulcan and El Dorado) but that's about it. Everybody else was in comic books at some point or another.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 01:46:19 pm
Not in a canon story.  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 01:55:00 pm
Yes, in canon stories. Superfriends and Super Powers comics were on Earth-1.

Beyond that Superman, Action Comics, Justice League of America, Extreme Justice, Batman, Detective Comics and JLA all have those characters.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 01:59:06 pm
Very well.  I still hate them.  But you're OK.  ;D ;) [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 02:08:49 pm
Very well.  I still hate them.  But you're OK.  ;D ;) [thumbs up]

That's cool. Hate away! :P

Seriously, if you ever watch any of the Superfriends videos I've made, there is pretty comprehensive coverage of where guys like Samurai show up in terms of the pre-crisis and post universes.

http://blip.tv/history-of-comics-on-film/history-of-comics-on-film-part-42-4847272
http://blip.tv/history-of-comics-on-film/blip-tv-hocof-052-5951382
http://blip.tv/history-of-comics-on-film/blip-tv-hocof-057-proper-6503874
http://blip.tv/history-of-comics-on-film/blip-tv-hocof-058-proper-6503878


Many of them you can certainly say were validated after the fact. But then so were Firestar, Reptyl(sort of) and X-23.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 02:42:28 pm
Very cool.  But for me, it's almost not about the fact that they showed up somewhere in a comic after the fact.  It's where they came from to start.  Toon, toyline, radio serial, etc.  There are degrees of it obviously.  Perry White, Harley Quinn, Batman Beyond and others all count to me and they all come from somewhere other than a comic originally.  I guess Super Friends left such a bad taste in my mouth, and the fact that I see no reason to have altered so many perfectly good DC characters to make them more "toyetic" in Super Powers that they all bug me more.  And why create new characters from whole cloth when there are hundreds of other perfectly good DC characters to pick from.  I also understand about Black Lightning/Black Vulcan as DC was fucking with Tony Isabella.  The rest, I don't get.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 09, 2015, 02:48:32 pm
That's fair. I guess Jimmy Olsen isn't cannon either then though.  ;D

Sometimes I can appreciate that line of thought, and other times I think the character created in another media earns their place in the pantheon.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 09, 2015, 02:58:47 pm
Exactly.  As as far as I'm concerned, most of the SP/SF haven't gotten there yet.  ;) [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 09, 2015, 07:05:45 pm
And probably never will.

I can't forgive SP for distorting public perception of Aquaman as 'useless'. If Jason Momoa doesn't SLAY then we're SOL and JWF.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Harbinger on May 09, 2015, 07:38:35 pm
And probably never will.

I can't forgive SP for distorting public perception of Aquaman as 'useless'. If Jason Momoa doesn't SLAY then we're SOL and JWF.

Sorry but momoa cant make aquaman seem any better than spongebob. Might as well call him mermaid man. ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 09, 2015, 09:28:24 pm
I have to assume that AQUAMAN will be angry and kind of dark.  I'm half serious, and half joking.  Seriously though, he'll be pissed off at how filthy we've made the oceans, and probably about some other global stuff, too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on May 10, 2015, 03:19:27 pm
The Legion 12-pack was put on the back burner in favor of the Green Lantern Classics Geoff Johns Homage Line. That's why it was delayed so long. As for being as much work as two retail lines, well yeah there are about as many figures and as much minimal tooling and deco as for most DCUC figures.

I talked with Cornboy while the line was still going and he said he would have loved doing more Legionnaires, and they were mostly new heads with an accessory here and there. As far as I'm concerned, here's about what would have been needed for the remaining Legionnaires:

Duo Damsel - head
Phantom Girl - head, lower legs
Invisible Kid - head
Supergirl - lower arms
Shrinking Violet - head, shrunken pack-in
Sun Boy - head
Bouncing Boy - head, torso overlay
Mon-El - head
Element Lad - head
Light/ning Lass - head
Dream Girl - head
Princess Projectra - head
Shadow Lass- head
Chemical King - head
Tyroc - head, collar
Dawnstar - head
Blok - head, overlay
Invisible Kid II - head
White Witch - head, sleeves, skirt
Sensor Girl - head, cape, boots
Quislet - sculpted pack-in
Tellus - full sculpt
Magnetic Kid - head
Polar Boy - head, torso overlay


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 10, 2015, 03:29:29 pm
That would have been two box sets or 4 dedicated waves. 

It would have been GLORIOUS!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on May 10, 2015, 03:51:50 pm
It would have been cash in their pockets! Another Legion set was a guaranteed sale. You had not only DCUC collectors demanding it but also an incredible number of non-toy collecting Legion fans.

But no, let's have a subscription where we don't tell you what's coming up and include such fan-requested characters as Giant-Sized Geoff Johns Rocket Red, Leftover Lanterns, Retired Costume Red Hood, etc.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 10, 2015, 04:01:54 pm
And Batzero!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 10, 2015, 06:43:46 pm
I would be even happier if your niches had been filled.

Thanks.  The problem now is that my niches have changed to become even more obscure and specific.  DCUC might have gotten around to maybe 20% of them.  I doubt DCC Icons even touches them aside from nU Earth 2 characters.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 10, 2015, 06:53:00 pm
I would be even happier if your niches had been filled.

Thanks.  The problem now is that my niches have changed to become even more obscure and specific.  DCUC might have gotten around to maybe 20% of them.  I doubt DCC Icons even touches them aside from nU Earth 2 characters.

After Justice League #40 and Convergence, who knows?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 10, 2015, 07:10:30 pm
That's what I keep hoping for.  But I have some serious doubts that Mutliverse characters are ever gonna be a priority.  And DCD/DCC have a well earned reputation for recycling the same characters over and over because they're "proven sellers".  A tradition since 2002.  Do we really think we're ever gonna get the classic Warlord cast (currently staring in Convergence), from DCC?  They may have had a shot with DCUC.  Not now though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 10, 2015, 07:20:31 pm
I don't know, I've started holding off on grabbing older DC Direct supplements since the ICONS announcement. I'm hoping the Warlords of DC Comics do get made. I'm also hoping I enjoy the scale and articulation scheme as well. Worst case scenario, I still grab some older DC Direct stuff and I finish off my "clownshoes" collection by getting some customs made.  ;D

I'm really happy with my Congorilla, Richard Dragon and Maxima customs. I bought some parts and "fodder" for figures you would probably have a hernia over if they were made for the subs. :)



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 10, 2015, 07:34:05 pm
Try me.  I'd buy two of the three you mentioned. 

My personal pipe dream with list includes Tommy Tomorrow, Claw the Unconquered, the original Starfire, Space Ranger and a whole lot more.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 10, 2015, 07:43:34 pm
There's plenty of "real" DC Comics characters I'd love to have (Felix Faust, Royal Flush Gang, Mark Shaw Manhunter, Bloodwynd, etc). Claw is one of my favorite little known DC guys.

The parts I grabbed though were for Marvin, Wendy and an extra WWE Scooby Doo for Wonder Dog. I'll have to see if Glassman will help me out with those, but I haven't corresponded with him in a while.

Also there are some pretty decent recipes out there for Rima the Jungle Girl, I'd just need to get the proper parts is all.

I'm not a SP whore in the sense of wanting those never before produced non-comic figures, but I would have liked to see the above SF in the sub. Just like the Satellite guys really want their Perez Zatanna, those guys would be my Perez Zatanna.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 10, 2015, 08:16:04 pm
At this point, I really have little desire for the mainstream DC stuff.  JLA, Titans, GLC, etc holds little interest for me.  I've always been a JSA guy (meaning Earth 2). 

What I'd like to see more than anything now is Multiverse characters starting with vintage Earth 2 characters followed by ALL THE REST!  Imaginary Stories, Elseworlds, and the alphanumeric soup of worlds from before the Crisis.  Including Morrisons brilliant Multiversity.  Everything.  Everyone.

It's where the fun in the DCU comes from.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 10, 2015, 08:36:30 pm
We the fans should start a petition, to bring DCUC back, like Hasbro did with ML.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Harbinger on May 10, 2015, 08:52:43 pm
I have to assume that AQUAMAN will be angry and kind of dark.  I'm half serious, and half joking.  Seriously though, he'll be pissed off at how filthy we've made the oceans, and probably about some other global stuff, too.

Im predicting wet willy from fairly odd parents. MORE KRACKEN!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 10, 2015, 09:02:51 pm
I think it's pretty obvious that they could never please all of the people all of the time.
There were the obvious fails that most of us agree upon such as Sinestro Batman, but I still think it's petty that people screamed they didn't get Satellite Zatanna when we were given a very nicely executed classic Zatanna.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 10, 2015, 09:56:46 pm
I think of Perez Zatanna as one of those good will type things for fans.  Much like Mr. Terrific or Carolina blue Superman. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 10, 2015, 10:11:57 pm
Sometimes I wonder about when the Classic Costume doesn't work for Classic Purists. Zatanna and She-Hulk are good examples I think. Or even Adam Warlock or Elongated Man could apply.

I know Satellite people were most likely pleased, but if I had my dithers I would have wanted the JLE era costume myself.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 11, 2015, 04:16:32 am
Sometimes I wonder about when the Classic Costume doesn't work for Classic Purists. Zatanna and She-Hulk are good examples I think. Or even Adam Warlock or Elongated Man could apply.

I know Satellite people were most likely pleased, but if I had my dithers I would have wanted the JLE era costume myself.

I often think it's a case of the licensor saying "if you really want Warlock in the wave then we approve, but it's gotta be the new costume as anyone who remembers the original costume has either stopped reading comics or has died of old age".

It would be impossible to pick the perfect snapshot in history to get a majority of costumes that people would be happy with. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 11, 2015, 07:21:35 am
Sometimes I wonder about when the Classic Costume doesn't work for Classic Purists. Zatanna and She-Hulk are good examples I think. Or even Adam Warlock or Elongated Man could apply.

I know Satellite people were most likely pleased, but if I had my dithers I would have wanted the JLE era costume myself.

For me, classic Zatanna was just fine as I wasn't intent on building the JLA of any era.  But it really was a poke in the eye for folks who did want a complete Satellite era team.  Amoung many such eye pokes.  It seems to me (20/20 hindsight) that those who received the fewest eye pokes were Super Powers and Green Lantern fans. 

Shazam!  Neitlich was a big fan of both of those properties.  Funny how that worked out.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 11, 2015, 09:31:40 am
Sometimes I think in those cases there's a difference between widely recognizable "Classic" (I might suggest Starlin's Adam Warlock or Purple tights She-Hulk) as opposed to Vintage/1st appearance costumes. Like Hulk #181 Wolverine and the She-Hulk figure with the torn white shirt.

For me the "snapshot" aspect is usually conducive to matching eras. You wouldn't have 1st app Daredevil in the yellow tights next to Now Thor or what-have-you. Those Satellite folks are bummed, cause they can't bring themselves to put the DCUC Zatanna next to the League they've assembled and that Identity Crisis one from DC Direct is a hideous beast.  ;D

That's probably the reason why people (well degra from fwoosh) was asking for a hotpants Supergirl or even classic one to fit best with the Legion era we got.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 11, 2015, 12:06:35 pm
The main problem for me about DCC Icons is the "snapshot" aspect.  We really know nothing about this line aside from scale, price point, and the first thirteen figures.  No one from DCC (that I know of) has given an interview about the direction of this line.  Team building?  World building?  Universe building?  Multiverse building?  No one seems to know and DCC is playing it pretty close to the vest.  SDCC is a little more than two months out where we'll probably see another dozen or so figures (hopefully).  But based on the first thirteen figures, I ain't very hopeful for my personal niches being addressed.  A snapshot line will allow maximum cherry picking.  A building line will allow us to swap out better versions of various figures.  Both have some appeal. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 11, 2015, 04:43:15 pm
I ain't very hopeful for my personal niches being addressed.

I've seen your niches and they're frightening.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 11, 2015, 04:49:51 pm
What's so frightening about more GA JSA?   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 15, 2015, 10:49:53 pm
Ordered Damian, so that's pretty much it for me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 16, 2015, 01:18:08 am
What's so frightening about more GA JSA?   ;D

Oh c'mon!! They're top tier standing on the winners podium compared to some of your obscure wants.  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on May 17, 2015, 02:55:43 pm
I just got the Super Powers style Gold Superman for $20. More than I wanted to pay for it, but I really did want it and it cost less than it would have when it first came out on Matty.

It still gets me that all those years I'd talk on the boards and with the Mattel reps about a separate Super Powers packaged retail line for nostalgic casual shoppers and in the end those figures came out as high-priced specialty items.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on May 17, 2015, 03:14:43 pm
All of the Super Powers figures in the DCUC line should've been released as a separate line on those cards! While I didn't like Gold Supes or Riddler Lantern, I did like most of the other SP figures. Wish that Captain Marvel had been released instead of either of those two. Get rid of that crappy goldish color and use yellow!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on May 17, 2015, 03:17:29 pm
All of the Super Powers figures in the DCUC line should've been released as a separate line on those cards! While I didn't like Gold Supes or Riddler Lantern, I did like most of the other SP figures. Wish that Captain Marvel had been released instead of either of those two. Get rid of that crappy goldish color and use yellow!

That would have been nice.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 27, 2015, 01:33:44 am
My Damian arrived today. A pretty solid final figure to my collection.

If I find Huntress, or Doomsday for cheap, down the line, I may buy, but I have all of the Must-Haves, at least all the ones that got produced.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 30, 2015, 09:08:00 pm
So Convergence has ended.  To quote DiDio "all doors are open". 

Can this be a path for the return of DCUC?  Maybe Mattel and DC/WB can kiss and make up.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 30, 2015, 09:41:25 pm
I want the DCU back before we get DCUC back.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 30, 2015, 09:56:24 pm
So Convergence has ended.  To quote DiDio "all doors are open". 

Can this be a path for the return of DCUC?  Maybe Mattel and DC/WB can kiss and make up.

You should've posted this in the comedy thread.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 30, 2015, 10:39:12 pm
I'm making an effort to not be so cynical.  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 24, 2015, 07:26:50 pm
Just a thought...would you support a return to the days of DCSH?  I found a loose Red Rain Batman today and it's a pretty great figure. Which leads me to ask this question. 

A look at SuperBats (and their families and villains) across time, space, and dimension.  KC Superman and Batman, DKR Superman, GA Superman, Gotham by Gaslight Batman, President Superman, Red Son Superman, the Super Sons, nU E-2 Superman (Val Zod), Superman Red/Blue (classic), New Frontier Superman, Nazi Superman, Holy Terror Batman, etc.  It would be interesting, as well as unsatisfying to most.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 24, 2015, 09:24:53 pm
Just a thought...would you support a return to the days of DCSH? 

If it would get me....

-E2 ROBIN
-NTT NIGHTWING
-Mullet NIGHTWING
-BA ATOMIC SKULL
-Fishbowl Head MR. FREEZE
-BA METALLO

....then yes!  [rock]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on June 25, 2015, 08:40:29 am
If they threw in never made before villains, I wouldn't mind a return to a Batman and Superman line.

I'd want things like Action Comics Annual #2 Gladiator Superman, but we'd probably end up with tons of Batman stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on June 25, 2015, 12:14:59 pm
66 Batgirl to be released as a shared SDCC/TRU exclusive-

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=24911

A single card Robin would've been nice to go with this.  [gah]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on June 25, 2015, 02:02:47 pm
I believe TRU is planning a Batman/Robin/Batgirl set for retail. Works for me, as I passed on the figures the first time around -- mostly due to lack of Batgirl.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on June 25, 2015, 02:43:08 pm
I'm thinking this might have taken the place of the 3 pack, KC.  :'(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 25, 2015, 07:10:45 pm
If they threw in never made before villains, I wouldn't mind a return to a Batman and Superman line.

I'd want things like Action Comics Annual #2 Gladiator Superman, but we'd probably end up with tons of Batman stuff.

The stuff I'm thinking of is more along the lines of where Mattel left off.  Batman of Planet X, Red Rain Batman, DKR Batman, even Batman Beyond.  Just apply it to Superman too.

And yeah NCM, I'd love E-2 Robin in both costumes.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on June 25, 2015, 08:45:42 pm
According to Skott Stotland / mtsbspidey the 3 pack is still on and possibly in stores now. Don't see any on ebay though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on June 25, 2015, 09:18:09 pm
I really want that three pack and the Batcave set. I am hoping getting the three pack doesn't force me to get the villains. Such is the mindset of a mad collector.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on June 25, 2015, 09:54:59 pm
If they threw in never made before villains, I wouldn't mind a return to a Batman and Superman line.

I'd want things like Action Comics Annual #2 Gladiator Superman, but we'd probably end up with tons of Batman stuff.

The stuff I'm thinking of is more along the lines of where Mattel left off.  Batman of Planet X, Red Rain Batman, DKR Batman, even Batman Beyond.  Just apply it to Superman too.

And yeah NCM, I'd love E-2 Robin in both costumes.


Superman Beyond would be cool or even a Justice Lord Superman.

At this point, I'm fine with Mezco trying their hand at DKR Superman. I wasn't a big fan of the Mattel DRK Batman to begin with.

Maybe the "Superman Monster" would be the counterpart to Red Rain Bats?

Justice Legion Superman or JL 3000 Superman could be fun. Superman at Earth's End would be a hoot. I'm fond of Shogun of Steel, but I don't know that we really need figures from it.

I personally wouldn't mind Mattel trying to cobble together Jeans and T-Shirt Morrison Superman still. Or the post Convergence Superman and Batman stuff. That Armored Appleseed looking Batman/Gordon could make a cool BAF.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 25, 2015, 10:11:31 pm
I think it can go further.  Tangent Superman.  E-2 Superman.  nU 52 E-2 Superman.  Generations Supes and Bats.  And yeah, the crew from 1,000,000 would be awesome.  Especially Robin.  New Frontier anyone?  How 'bout an All Star Superman wave?   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on June 25, 2015, 11:21:35 pm
According to Skott Stotland / mtsbspidey the 3 pack is still on and possibly in stores now. Don't see any on ebay though.

I dunno who that is, but I hope he's right. Thanks for the info, Dave!  8)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 20, 2015, 07:48:41 am
Checked out Plasticmemorial this morning.  Thought Beatty would be having a shitfit over the Multiverse figures.  Not a peep.  In fact he hasn't updated since 6/28.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on July 20, 2015, 09:02:35 am
I'm thinking this might have taken the place of the 3 pack, KC.  :'(

According to Rex Mason, Mattel said the 3-pack is planned for August. Some people have found a single-carded Batgirl at their local stores.

Quote
The Mattel rep at the booth said the 3-pack of Batman, Robin, and Batgirl is still planned for an August release.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on July 23, 2015, 01:36:49 am
Three pack and cave-accessories set went up on TRU. Accessories set already sold out. :(

Are these going to be in stores too or just online? I need that Shakespeare bust. NEED it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on July 23, 2015, 09:38:56 am
Yeah, it's like that Batcave set was up and gone before I even knew about it being up.

 [thud]


Ninja Banish! *POOF*


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on July 28, 2015, 03:22:10 am
Damnit. It was back up today and I did not order it because I was looking for a coupon my 2 year old moved for me. I found it, under my recliner. Like, WAAAAAY under there. Ordered and thankfully despite the 10 hour gap in time, I was able to order both. Coupon didn't even fucking work.

THEN

They took the batcave stuff out AT RECEIPT which charged me for shipping on the 3 pack.

So I screen captured it all. They will be honoring the coupon and re-embursing shipping.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on July 28, 2015, 04:40:44 am
It's available for store pickup, not at any TRU near me but at one I drove past today and didn't bother stopping at :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on July 28, 2015, 05:20:53 am
I found the Batcave set at the store.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 28, 2015, 06:35:39 pm
I am jealous there's something DC that someone wants.

I remember that feeling.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 28, 2015, 08:04:43 pm
I'm about as excited as I can get without knowing any particulars.  President Superman is a start.  What else ya got Matty?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on July 29, 2015, 05:58:19 am
OK so "To the Batcave" Batman comes with the Batcomputer and 15 accessories:

Display stand
Bruce Wayne head
Batarangs (3)
Batman Spray Repellant (4)
Shakespeare bust
Batphone
Batmegaphone
Batzooka
Batradio
Batcomputer wood panel secret compartment door OR backdrop for display stand -- not sure which is the 15th accessory

It's a fun, simple set. It's great to have a Bruce Wayne head and all the major accessories, but disappointing that the Batcomputer is decorated with stickers rather than molded and painted details, and it would have been nice to have Barracuda, Whale, Manta-Ray and Shark repellant rather than "Batman Spray Repellant".

Taking a cue from the 8" Figures Toy Company Accessory set, what I'd like to see next would be a "To the Batcave" Robin set with:

Display stand
Dick Grayson head
Batshields (2)
Bat Walkie Talkies (2)
Batcuffs (2)
Mobile Crime Lab
Bomb

For the large accessory ... another computer? Batpoles?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on August 05, 2015, 03:16:55 pm
I saw the Batman/Robin/Batgirl set yesterday at TRU. It was $55 -- a bit high for the (mediocre) quality of the figures. I'll wait for a discount -- or go without. Robin looks particularly crappy. Batgirl is okay, but the face seems kinda flat. Mattel had a golden opportunity with this line -- and half-assed down the drain.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on September 25, 2015, 09:03:37 pm
I honestly did not care too much about the 66 stuff when it was first shown. I have ignored it for the most part not feeling like I needed any of it. Picked up the Batmobile, but that's it.

Then they released that damn batcave set.

Got it and the three pack. LOVE them so much more than I would have thought.

Now I will likely end up with the bad guys too.

I'm an addict.

Here's some fun shots I took with them.

http://imgur.com/gallery/YsjGk?lr=1442389199


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 26, 2015, 04:51:34 pm
That does look fun  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 08, 2015, 10:27:08 pm
At least they had something to show....

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/mattel-announces-dc-multiverse-6-dark-knight-returns-walmart-exclusive-figures/


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on October 09, 2015, 01:54:26 am
I guess they're comic-accurate enough.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on October 09, 2015, 04:57:05 am
Wal-Mart exclusive..........  [banghead]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 09, 2015, 07:15:33 am
I guess I can't complain (much) any more.  This is what I was hoping for.  The name of the line is after all Multiverse, but that doesn't mean much in itself.  President Superman followed up by a DKR wave is fairly conclusive to the direction of this "relaunch" as regards the comic accurate part of the line.  I believe we're still gonna get lots of media figures.  Which I'll be able to ignore.  My main prediction now is Kingdom Come figures before 2017.  Which could be it's own sub-line in reality.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on October 09, 2015, 04:04:12 pm
I hope they do the Legion figures that were already on the table. It's not like need much tooling.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on October 09, 2015, 07:36:28 pm
I still believe dcuc will be back next year due to the BvS film,just under a new name.We'll see at toy fair i hope.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: KOLOBOSREXX on October 11, 2015, 08:57:44 pm
...This  DKR wave looks pretty snazzy!  Just needs a Joker, Robin snd Mutant Leader!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gadabout on October 20, 2015, 12:54:18 pm
These figures may not be fun to collect anymore but they're still damn fun to own.

(this posted as a massive image so here is a link to the imgur. )

http://imgur.com/Wm2DVEU

It's a cool display I did with Dick Grayson as Robin and Barbara Gordon as Batgirl. Titled "Dynamic Date Night"


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 20, 2015, 02:08:10 pm
I still believe dcuc will be back next year due to the BvS film, just under a new name.  We'll see at toy fair i hope.

That would definitely be cool.  O0   [rock]

I've been to the point where I want NO new DC ( or MARVEL ) comics and virtually no new action figures.....just older stuff that I missed out on years ago.  It would be cool to have at least 3 to 5 figures a year to look forward to.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on October 31, 2015, 04:09:06 pm
I bought 6" deluxe batman and kid flash young justice at half price books.I've never seen or heard of these before.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 31, 2015, 04:22:48 pm
Yeah....I saw that very KID FLASH on AMAZON and added it to my Want List.  It's not bad at all, and it's as close as I'll ever get.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on October 31, 2015, 04:54:44 pm
I paid 13 for each.kid flash is actually very nice.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on October 31, 2015, 05:04:32 pm
You guys got deals. I remember those being the "rare" series of Young Justice.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on November 23, 2015, 05:35:24 pm
cyber Monday is up at matty,if you want superboy,damian or some others for 11 bucks.but you'd probably pay 12 for shipping  :-\


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on November 23, 2015, 08:15:07 pm
Raise your hand if it pisses you off to get an incredible deal, but then you end up blowing your wad on $hipping!!!  Ugh!!!



 [cursing]   [banghead]   [gah]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on November 23, 2015, 09:40:13 pm
Grayskull for $150 - looks sold out though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on November 24, 2015, 05:38:45 am
I was on when Grayskull was still up. But I just don't care anymore.


I still need Ice, but unless some other stuff gets out up, no way I'm dealing with their awful shipping again.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on November 25, 2015, 12:59:37 pm
I could have sworn they said greyskull would never sell for under $300.  More matty lies.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on November 25, 2015, 05:41:37 pm
I could go for a discounted Battle Ram.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on November 28, 2015, 06:41:25 pm
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/28/26233580933c936578564100464c0fb2.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/28/c210dd798147e3a5271c8fbe5f1dd1de.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/28/8fc785e8ada63b6216da06182ec2ca5e.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/28/173b5cc0e007d3b5ca699611c902ee35.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on November 28, 2015, 06:48:38 pm
Cool. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on November 29, 2015, 01:45:45 am
Those painted eyes look horrible.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on November 29, 2015, 09:19:36 am
Agreed.  The head sculpt is not good.  I'm simply glad to see Mattel has got some six inch DC product "coming soon" besides the shitty Total Heroes.  Now someone wake me up when President Superman and the Dark Knight waves hit. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on November 29, 2015, 06:05:25 pm
Funny, I love Marvel movie figures but DC won't do it for me. And I have no need for a Build-A Grapnel Blaster, so I'll pass.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 30, 2015, 04:59:21 am
Bleh


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on November 30, 2015, 07:21:45 am
Indeed.  But to be brutally honest, movie figures never do much for me anyway. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on December 01, 2015, 07:43:38 am
Finally ordered Ice, who was the last DCUC figure I needed besides naked Cheetah

Also got my third Aquaman, hoping that he'll have a correct silver shoulder disc.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 01, 2015, 03:38:22 pm
Finally ordered Ice, who was the last DCUC figure I needed besides naked Cheetah

Also got my third Aquaman, hoping that he'll have a correct silver shoulder disc.

 :D

You put too much faith in them


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 01, 2015, 05:49:26 pm
I'm not quite done with this line yet.  There's still some older figures I need, but I have zero interest in movie figs.  I used to buy a few, but I wound up selling all of them later.

Hell....I still want HAWKMAN/STRATOS and AQUAMAN/MER MAN.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 07, 2015, 02:18:07 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=25616

I really don't understand how licensing works.  I thought nobody else could make 6" scale figs, but it's not really important.

Anyway, I think these are incredible looking.  If I was ever tempted to buy movie figures, these would be it.  But....I don't. 

Still....wow.   jaw_drop


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on December 07, 2015, 04:55:31 pm
DC: Spandex out, long-underwear material in.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on December 07, 2015, 08:54:06 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=25616

I really don't understand how licensing works.  I thought nobody else could make 6" scale figs, but it's not really important.

Anyway, I think these are incredible looking.  If I was ever tempted to buy movie figures, these would be it.  But....I don't. 

Still....wow.   jaw_drop

They're Japanese. Mattel's license must not extend to all parts of the world, everywhere.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 08, 2015, 09:09:12 pm
[think]  Ah....that actually makes sense.

I wonder if said company would be interested in making 70s/80s era comic accurate figures?  Haha!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 21, 2015, 07:47:10 pm
Saw Multiversity Wave 1 at Toys R Us today minus Batman, Superman, and Reverse Flash.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on December 21, 2015, 08:27:07 pm
so did I,just saw joker and tv arrow and tv flash.what's up with the BAF in this wave?,looks like a weird cartoony robot.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 21, 2015, 10:09:01 pm
Anyone see President Supes yet? How's he look?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 21, 2015, 10:13:03 pm
He's the only one I'm looking for and didn't find him.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 22, 2015, 07:01:59 pm
Evidently, this is only the first half of the wave.  Second half, Batman, Superman, and Reverse Flash "coming soon".


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 23, 2015, 07:13:54 am
Now someone has found a Batman v Superman assortment in the wild.  Not sure where but the store was Toys R Us.

Dunno how this is gonna shake out, but it seems Mattel is rather eager to get some six inch collector product back onto the shelves.  Which is a good sign all in all.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on December 24, 2015, 01:25:30 am
I saw Joker, Arrow, and Flash. Would have bought Ollie and Barry, but I have the DCC Flash, because SOMEBODY *cough* mattel *cough* didn't want my fucking money anymore.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 24, 2015, 08:28:16 am
I know it seems like that sometimes, but corporate America always wants your money.  I know I sound like a Mattel apologist, but I think Neitlich had to be GONE for Mattel to resume any adult collector six inch product.  Laying out for a year was probably a good move overall.  Hasbro has done it with Marvel Legends at least once. 

At this point, I don't have much skin in the game.  Still looking for a few figures to patch holes in my niche building lineups.  Looking forward to two new Mattel (comic accurate) figures so far.  And really looking forward to Toy Fair to see what's in the pipeline.

Trying to remain optimistic and fight back my natural cynicism.   ;D   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on December 25, 2015, 03:55:15 pm
Nietlich had nothing to do with the retail product anymore.

It was Dc Warners that messed it all up.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on December 26, 2015, 02:55:37 pm
I was almost out the door from Toys R Us with the new 6' DC Multiverse figures. They had all three (TV Flash, TV Arrow and Endgame Joker). There was one person working the register at the whole store b/c, well, it's the day after Christmas.
There was about two people in front of me. As I'm waiting, I notice that even though I inspected all the figures for paint issues and picked the best available, that I didn't really look at the BAF parts for the Endgame Batman armor suit. I think Arrow and Joker came with Legs and Flash has the head and shoulderpads. I start to notice that the Flash I grabbed (although he had good paint apps), the head of the BAF has these headpieces that were slightly warped. It was annoying enough that I thought, "let's leave the line, and make sure there isn't one that is actually uniform and not warped." When I give the other two Flash figures a look over, the BAF heads are even worse on the other two. Bent up and mashed instead of just going in cross-directions. I get back in the line, which has awkwardly grown into a two-headed snake. I guess I got behind the wrong head and tried to correct that. Another guy asked me to get in front of him b/c he thought I was there first and could understand the confusion. There are now 6 people in front of me and the cashier is STILL helping the first person from back when there were only two people in front of me. I eventually can't stand it. Realize these are probably inferior figures for $20 a pop or whatever marked up price TRU is going to charge me and put them back and walk out.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 26, 2015, 08:00:33 pm
Nietlich had nothing to do with the retail product anymore.

It was Dc Warners that messed it all up.

Sure, but at that point all that was left of any DC collector line was what Neitlich was doing at Mattycollector.  Neitlich left a stench that lives on after his departure.  Not saying it's all his fault.  DC/Warners did plenty to wreck it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on December 31, 2015, 01:55:46 am
Anybody got a lineup of whats out and whats coming?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 31, 2015, 07:40:37 am
Let's see, in the six inch scale for the first Multiverse wave we have...

Coming "soon"

Year Zero Batman
President Superman
TV Reverse Flash

These three have shipped in some parts of the country.

TV Arrow
TV Flash
Endgame Joker
C&C Justice Buster Batman Armor

Batman v Superman six inch scale

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Armored Batman
Lex Luthor

And there are three more figures in a split shipping wave that have not been officially announced.  Aquaman is a good bet.  The C&C is some sort of prop replica from the movie.

There are also some six inch scale Total Hero styled Batman v Superman movie figures too.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 31, 2015, 08:11:33 am
And I forgot the DKR Wal-Mart wave for the spring...

Repaint DKR Batman
DKR Superman
Son of the Batman army builder.  On the repurposed Guy Gardner buck.

Just speculating but I think this might just be half the wave.  The rest to be announced at Toy Fair in Feb.  There are lots of DKR characters that could show up in the second half of the wave.  Including the DKR armored Batman (C&C) that helped him kick Superman's ass. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on January 01, 2016, 06:05:33 pm
BVS is all I'm interested in atm.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 01, 2016, 06:10:17 pm
They seem to be hitting Targets and Toys R Us up and down the east coast.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on January 01, 2016, 06:15:08 pm
I hope we get more Pre-Nu DCU stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 01, 2016, 07:10:41 pm
We'll know more in about a month and a half. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 01, 2016, 08:26:55 pm
I saw what seems like a full case of these figs.  No Wonder Woman, a few Supes, and tons of Bats.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 02, 2016, 10:31:39 am
I saw what seems like a full case of these figs.  No Wonder Woman, a few Supes, and tons of Bats.

From BBTS:

Mix 1
1x Superman
4x Batman
3x Batman Armored

Mix 2
1x Superman
3x Batman
2x Wonder Woman
2x Batman Armored


Why bother with a C&C if you're going to do that?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 02, 2016, 10:50:58 am
I hope we get more Pre-Nu DCU stuff.

Me too.  But I'll settle for actual (comic) Multiverse characters.  Which still can give us a pretty good range of figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 02, 2016, 10:52:53 am
I saw what seems like a full case of these figs.  No Wonder Woman, a few Supes, and tons of Bats.

From BBTS:

Mix 1
1x Superman
4x Batman
3x Batman Armored

Mix 2
1x Superman
3x Batman
2x Wonder Woman
2x Batman Armored

Why bother with a C&C if you're going to do that?

A third revision case?  Or maybe they're betting on few people wanting a C&C prop.  Or Mattel.  :-\


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on January 02, 2016, 01:15:36 pm
I got wonder woman,the two batmen and superman at my tru.wonder woman's face could be better her eyebrows are weird and the eyes on batman doesn't look good.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on January 02, 2016, 04:38:20 pm
I'll def. get both Batmen.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on January 02, 2016, 06:16:26 pm
I wonder if the reason there's only one superman in each case is that mattel lost a bit on the man of steel line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 02, 2016, 07:59:07 pm
I've got a fever....and the prescription....is MORE BATMAN!!!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 02, 2016, 08:04:57 pm
Mattel is stuck in the mindset that "girls don't sell", "villains don't sell", and that Batman trumps all.  Only the last is true.  Batman is one the most lucrative licensed characters of all time.  Still one Superman per case is kinda fucked up.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on January 02, 2016, 08:21:51 pm
I do ike this superman better than the man of steel one,im sure it's the same figure but the new one has a clean shaven face and brighter colors.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 02, 2016, 10:08:07 pm
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2uhsv86.jpg)

Personally, I don't think they are bad looking at all.  Pretty solid, more than adequate, retail available figures.

I'm just not into movie figures, and I agree that one SUPES per case is lunacy.

God I hate SUPERMAN without the red trunks.  I prefer BATS with trunks too, but something about SUPES without them reeeeally irritates me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on January 02, 2016, 11:01:55 pm
they'll probably make bats in his desert trenchcoat


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on January 02, 2016, 11:07:16 pm
even the basic ones don't look bad,I saw aquaman and wonder woman(regret not getting Arthur but I felt I had enough in my hands at the time with four figures.)and 10 bucks a pop for them ain't bad for a five inch figure nowadays.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 03, 2016, 04:00:45 pm
Running errands this afternoon, I decided to stop in on the closest Toys R Us and Target.  TrU had a bunch of the Total Hero styled figures with a few Aquamen mixed in.  Two movie Batmen and one armored Batman.  Not on the DC or even Marvel aisle, but in the "Collectable Action Figure" section.  $19.99.  Target was flush with everything.  Both the movie Multiverse wave and the Comic/TV Multiverse wave.  Multiples of each.  Plus the Total Hero styled figures.  It's nice to see DC six inch product on the shelves.  But out of seven discreet figures, only one is comic accurate.  This may be a bit frustrating going forward.  To me anyway.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 03, 2016, 06:58:24 pm
But out of seven discreet figures, only one is comic accurate.

Definitely.  Not.  Cool.    [thumbs down]  >:(  [banghead]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on January 03, 2016, 07:20:54 pm
Picked up Standard Batfleck today. Definitely want the armored version, and the trenchcoat version when its released.

On the fence about Superman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 03, 2016, 07:39:20 pm
Yeesh! How can you guys keep buying Batman figures? How much is enough?!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on January 03, 2016, 09:11:27 pm
I want a screen accurate Justice League.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 03, 2016, 09:28:02 pm
But out of seven discreet figures, only one is comic accurate.

Definitely.  Not.  Cool.    [thumbs down]  >:(  [banghead]

To be fair, there are five more comic accurate figures announced.  One is a repaint.  One is an army builder.  All are SuperBat characters. 

Toy Fair is coming.   ;D  I choose to be optimistic in the face of uncertainty.   ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on January 03, 2016, 09:43:58 pm
My only gripe about the Batfleck figure is where the elbow cuts into the sculpt. They should've shortened the gauntlets even if it wasn't entirely accurate.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 03, 2016, 09:57:37 pm
Toy Fair is coming.   ;D  I choose to be optimistic in the face of uncertainty.   ;)

Nothing wrong with that.  We don't all need to be a Gloomy Gus.  ;)



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 04, 2016, 08:26:04 am
I want a screen accurate Justice League.


Didn't mean to get all judgy, but I really tire of seeing another new iteration of Batman every time a solicitation comes out.  I know every new figure will be someone's first -- and I'm sure there is an audience for all things Batman, but I have to wonder if some guys just buy these because there is nothing else for them to buy.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 04, 2016, 08:40:52 am
I think there are people who buy every iteration of their favorite character that is available to them.  Not saying Blis is that way where Batman is concerned.  I know JQ is.  Or used to be anyway where Batman and Iron Man were concerned. 

I read an article in the newspaper (obviously years ago) where an African American gentleman and his son collected African American action figures.  Superheroes, sports, wrestling, movies, games, TV...whatever.  Didn't matter to the guy so long as the subject was black.

Many people collect niches.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 04, 2016, 12:13:43 pm
For me personally, once I owned the COIE BATMAN from DCD ( which is essentially a Jim Aparo version ) and the DCUC Blue and Gray BATMAN, my BATMAN collecting pretty much stopped.  I had waited years for BRONZE AGE BATS to show up and it finally happened. 

Granted, I still want a HISTORY OF THE DC UNIVERSE BATMAN.  I've looked for years, but I have yet to see one for a reasonable price, so I gave up quite a while ago.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2zhqyxu.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on January 04, 2016, 03:07:11 pm
Didn't mean to get all judgy, but I really tire of seeing another new iteration of Batman every time a solicitation comes out.  I know every new figure will be someone's first -- and I'm sure there is an audience for all things Batman, but I have to wonder if some guys just buy these because there is nothing else for them to buy.

Retailers demand Batman. Kids love Batman. Adults love Batman. I have no problem with a Batman in every single assortment. The thing is, if they want a Batman to keep the retailers happy it can be just any of a few different classic Batmans recycled into every wave, with no BAF part. Just include extra accessories which have also already been made available and everyone will be happy. Of course, it's not hard to come up with a completely different Batman in every assortment that can be ignored by those who already got their Jim Aparo Batman.

I think there are people who buy every iteration of their favorite character that is available to them.  Not saying Blis is that way where Batman is concerned.  I know JQ is.  Or used to be anyway where Batman and Iron Man were concerned.

Quite right  [thumbs up]

They aren't even particular favorites of mine, but I'll buy any Batman or Batman-inspired character in a different costume (or Iron Man armor) ... in the right format.

Zebra Batman, The Negative Batman, Rainbow Batman - Red, Blue, Yellow, Orange, Green, Purple, Black & White and full Rainbow , Batman Jr., The Strange Costumes of Batman - North Pole Camouflage, Luminous Uniform, Interplanetary Suit, Golden Garb, Robin-Impersonating-Batman costume, Glider Suit, Scuba, Batman Jones Silver Age, Earth Two Robin Batman-style costume, Composite Superman and other Batman / Superman combos, Batman Jones Modern Age, Batman One Million or any number of Batmans from the future, Blackwing - at least two costume variations, Batwing - several versions, Damian Batman ... you could put a brand new Bat-character in every wave to keep retailers and some consumers happy and I'd buy them all, and they could be ignored by everyone else as long as they didn't have a BAF part.

Now the movie versions ... I can happily do without most of those :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 04, 2016, 03:57:15 pm
Truth is, there's a lot of Bat stuff I would buy if made.  Most are the different Multiverse iterations.  Generally anything that's not the Adams/Rogers/Aparo Batman.  I'm actually hoping Mattel/DC use Batman/Superman to propel more Multiverse characters/versions into the line.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 04, 2016, 08:12:30 pm
I stopped at a Wal-Mart the Bat:Supes was 25:1.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 04, 2016, 08:23:39 pm
I still want an E2 ROBIN, and a 90s Tim Drake ROBIN if possible.  I think I'm the only person alive who wants a FISHBOWL Head MR. FREEZE.

I don't think there's any Multiverse stuff I want, but I'm so out of touch with comics at this point that I could be wrong.  It just depends on what stuff looks like.  I've always been a Cherry Picking "Whatever Looks Cool" type of buyer.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: 78t-topps on January 04, 2016, 09:56:03 pm
Which Earth 2 Robin?

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/RobinEarth2b.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/RobinEarth2b.jpg.html)

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/RobinEarth2DCUC3.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/RobinEarth2DCUC3.jpg.html)

The beauty of making your own...

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/BatmanJimAparo.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/BatmanJimAparo.jpg.html)

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/RobinTim1stcostume.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/RobinTim1stcostume.jpg.html)

I think for every figure we want, there are ten we don't,but somebody does....

Fishbowl Mr. Freeze? comic accurate or tv? I'll think about it... [think]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 04, 2016, 10:10:47 pm
WOW.  jaw_drop

I would prefer the red/yellow/green E2 version, but I'd buy the BATMAN-esque version just for shits and giggles.

And I totally dig the BA version of Vic.

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2u433lz.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 04, 2016, 10:45:11 pm
Well I'm pretty sure E-2 Robin would fit in fairly well in the Multiverse line.

And I'd punch a baby, push a nun down a stairwell, and run a bus load of preschoolers off the road on my way to Target to get one.   >:D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on January 04, 2016, 11:34:40 pm
My DCD one fits in perfectly with my DCUC collection


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on January 05, 2016, 02:17:49 am
Apparently the BVS figures are turning up at TRU in Oz. I'll have a look tomorrow. For research purposes only.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 05, 2016, 06:56:23 am
Of course, it's not hard to come up with a completely different Batman in every assortment that can be ignored by those who already got their Jim Aparo Batman.


That would be me.

I can't believe DCD/DCC never got around to doing a Neal Adams Batman line -- but that was probably due to interference from Neal. But for all intent purposes, the Crisis one is Adams/Aparo. I do have a few Batman figures of my own -- and have let some go (Thrillkiller Batman comes to mind).

There is one Batman-related figure I wouldn't mind having -- and that the purple Batman suit that the Batman-Revenge Squad wore in World's Finest.  http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Revenge_Squad_%28Earth-One%29

I don't know that we ever really got an Adams Joker and Robin -- but I guess we got pretty close.

This Adams Catwoman would be nice. http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Vol_1_210. Always thought that cat-eyed mask made her look more imposing -- and the leotard enabled her to more acrobatics than the skirt.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 05, 2016, 07:09:51 am
Neal would for sure wanna be involved.  And want a cut as well.  It's why we've a better shot from Mattel.  They can do it "generic" style.  Never calling it Adams Batman.  Kinda like they did with the Sprang-ish Batman and Joker from a while back. 

Plus, there are a whole lot of people who may consider quitting collecting Batman after they get their Adams/Aparo/Rogers/Breyfogle Batman.  It's the golden ticket, the Holy Grail, and El Dorado all wrapped up for many Batman collectors.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 05, 2016, 11:28:36 am
And I'd punch a baby, push a nun down a stairwell, and run a bus load of preschoolers off the road

Edited for length. :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 05, 2016, 12:21:02 pm
The thing that always confused me was the DCD SA 2-packs: With the release of PENGUIN and CATWOMAN, they seemed to be following a 'Movie Villain' Pattern.  I fully expected them to do a TWO-FACE/RIDDLER set, followed by a MR. FREEZE/POISON IVY set.  I was super excited about that possibility, but obviously, that never happened.

I also thought a BA era wave of BATMAN, ROBIN, RA'S AL GHUL, and possibly TALIA and SCARECROW could happen, roughly around the release of BATMAN BEGINS.  The timing seemed so right.  But what the hell do I know?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 05, 2016, 12:50:46 pm
The thing that always confused me was the DCD SA 2-packs: With the release of PENGUIN and CATWOMAN, they seemed to be following a 'Movie Villain' Pattern.  I fully expected them to do a TWO-FACE/RIDDLER set, followed by a MR. FREEZE/POISON IVY set.  I was super excited about that possibility, but obviously, that never happened.

I also thought a BA era wave of BATMAN, ROBIN, RA'S AL GHUL, and maybe TALIA could happen, roughly around the release of BATMAN BEGINS.  The timing seemed so right.  But what the hell do I know?

DCD had so many missed opportunities. And Mattel failed to exploit those -- instead they pretty much rehashed what DCD had done -- sometimes to a better degree -- other times not so much.

Obviously, Batman merch = cash cow. Why we didn't see more classic Bat stuff is beyond me! I still don't have a true SA/BA Poison Ivy -- and likely never will. Same goes for Two-Face (he was only in a boxed set from Mattel -- as far as I recall). I also was unable to get the DCUC Riddler -- so I only have the crappy DCD figure -- and the Hush version.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 05, 2016, 01:59:42 pm
I used to bitch and moan every single time an ELSEWORLDS version of BATS was made, or a Flavor of the Month Artist Specific wave that was tied in to a new story was released.  I kept thinking "All that stuff is fine, but where the hell are the Classic looks that lasted for decades!??

But over the years, I got used to DCD doing that kind of shit.  Over time, I eventually got a lot of what I wanted.  They finally released that fantastic NTT ROBIN, and that, along with the DCUC one, were my last ROBIN figures.  I still wouldn't mind a really good BA TWO FACE, and a slightly less skinny SCARECROW than the DCSH version would be cool.  I'll never get a CALENDAR MAN, but we have an awesome KILLER MOTH!  I won't ever have a FISHBOWL MR. FREEZE, but we have a very sharp CATMAN.

At this point, there are so many other lines I collect that I'm pretty much over the 'missing' BAT stuff.  Granted, I do have some LOSH/FLASH ROGUES/80s TEEN TITANS issues I'm still working on....LOL!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 05, 2016, 06:24:47 pm
And I'd punch a baby, push a nun down a stairwell, and run a bus load of preschoolers off the road

Edited for length. :)

Thanks bud.  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 05, 2016, 08:46:41 pm
I used to bitch and moan every single time an ELSEWORLDS version of BATS was made, or a Flavor of the Month Artist Specific wave that was tied in to a new story was released.  I kept thinking "All that stuff is fine, but where the hell are the Classic looks that lasted for decades!??

I think Mattel can do Elseworlds/Multiverse "generic" 4H style and rule.  I'm not the world's biggest Bat-fan, but I'd buy these Batmen...

Thrillkiller
Gotham by Gaslight
Holy Terror
Darkest Knight (Bruce as Green Lantern)
Generations
Liberty Files
Kingdom Come (would probably have to be the C&C)
New Frontier
Tangent
Leatherwing
Red Son
Speeding Bullets (Kal-El/Clark Kent as Batman)
And the three different Batmen of nU 52 Earth 2.

Superman later.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 05, 2016, 08:53:51 pm
Elseworlds/Multiverse Supermen

Son of Superman
Dark Side
Red Son
Generations
Super Sons
Kingdom Come
Tangent
At Earth's End
And both nU 52 Earth 2 Supermen


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JerseyManiac! on January 06, 2016, 10:37:04 pm
I really do not believe how many people are actually buying this new horseshit they are putting out.  I really don't.  Believe me, I'm desperate for some DC figs too....but I saw the new "DCUC" and the movie figs, and I literally laughed.  They look like they were made by a 10 year old.  And the movie stuff looks so bad that I almost don't want to bother seeing the actual movie! 



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 07, 2016, 01:27:42 am
I really do not believe how many people are actually buying this new horseshit they are putting out.  I really don't.  Believe me, I'm desperate for some DC figs too....but I saw the new "DCUC" and the movie figs, and I literally laughed.  They look like they were made by a 10 year old.  And the movie stuff looks so bad that I almost don't want to bother seeing the actual movie! 



Gotta confess that when I saw the el cheapo 6" BvS figs I wasn't won over. The googly eyed Wonder Woman is not good. The Batmobile was the only piece in the line I gave a decent look over.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 10, 2016, 06:13:06 pm
I'm beginning to wonder where the Multiverse line goes after Batman v Superman plays out.  We know there's one more wave.  After that...?  The next DC movie is Suicide Squad in August.  Chances are that SS will be PG-13 or R rated.  In that case, Mattel probably won't make figures.  Also, Geoff Johns did tweet a few weeks ago that SS figures are coming from DCC.  After SS, the next DC film is Wonder Woman in June of 2017.  A year and a half off.  Will we get more TV figures?  How far back will they go?  Or will they stick to the current slate of shows?  How about more figures from older movies?  Animation?  Video game figures?  I ask this because the movies aren't exactly coming out a rapid pace. 

I still want more DCUC compatible stuff.   ;D 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 10, 2016, 09:34:46 pm
The next DC movie is Suicide Squad in August..... Geoff Johns did tweet a few weeks ago that SS figures are coming from DCC.

Hmmm...interesting topic.  [think]

That would be the perfect time to do Classic CAPTAIN BOOMERANG, RICK FLAGG, AMANDA WALLER, COUNT VERTIGO, and a handful of others.  But we all know that's not gonna happen.

DCC will probably just make Movie versions.  :-\   




Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 11, 2016, 12:48:00 am
The next DC movie is Suicide Squad in August..... Geoff Johns did tweet a few weeks ago that SS figures are coming from DCC.

Hmmm...interesting topic.  [think]

That would be the perfect time to do Classic CAPTAIN BOOMERANG, RICK FLAGG, AMANDA WALLER, COUNT VERTIGO, and a handful of others.  But we all know that's not gonna happen.

DCC will probably just make Movie versions.  :-\   


This exemplifies the difference between Marvel and DC.

DC/Mattel will produce shit quality movie figs that will warm the shelves for years.

Marvel/Hasbro will produce a wave that is half movie figures and half comic accurate figures....though the latter will be selected to fit the theme of the wave, thus selling the big retailers on the line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 11, 2016, 07:02:03 am
It would be the perfect time for a comic accurate Suicide Squad wave.  Although I think the name might cause a bit of outrage on the toy aisles.  Much like Walter White and Jesse Pinkman did.  Which I still find ironic because no one said shit about the Jax Teller action figure from SoA.  Jax whacked a whole lot more people than Walter ever did.  Still, I think that if you do a wave of SS figures under the Multiverse header, you could do Harley (which always sells), Deadshot (Will Smith) and maybe re-release the DCUC Deadshot.  Classic Boomer would be nice as well.  And a SS (movie) Joker would be icing on the cake.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 11, 2016, 11:13:59 am
I'd love classic Squad figures. We have a great Bronze Tiger, but need Captain Boomerang and Enchantress with her witch-pool hat. Always dug that look -- and when it was used in Flashpoint -- though we had a chance of seeing a figure. Not so much.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 11, 2016, 02:20:41 pm
We could debate for a long tome about who's a "core" Suicide Squad member.  What we know for a fact is that if Mattel does comic accurate figures, that we won't be getting Waller or Flag.  All we really have as of now are Bronze Tiger, Deadshot and the wrong Boomerang. 

You could make a good argument for the following...

Black Orchid
Enchantress
Nemesis
Nightshade
Duchess
Vixen
Shade the Changing Man
Count Vertigo
and a new Boomerang

Beyond that, dunno.  Would this be a good spot to talk about the Secret Six?  We've got Deadshot, Catman, Bane, and Harley.  Cheshire, Ragdoll, Scandal, and knockout would round thigs out pretty well. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 11, 2016, 02:49:03 pm
I have to assume that whoever does them, we will get the absolute latest team line-up.  I would love to think that some pre 90s characters were possible, but I'll believe it when I see them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 11, 2016, 03:06:47 pm
We've got a way better chance for movie figures.  I just wanna stay comic book optimistic.   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on January 11, 2016, 07:07:07 pm
We've got a way better chance for movie figures.  I just wanna stay comic book optimistic.   ;D

"Coboptomistic"   ;)

I saw my first handful of Multiverse figures.  I can't see them selling, but I've been wrong before.

Rarely, mind you, but it has happened.   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 12, 2016, 05:58:42 pm
I wonder if it's possible to see a comic accurate HEATWAVE because of DC LEGENDS OF TOMORROW??  We already have CAPTAIN COLD, and apparently he didn't sell too well.  We have FIRESTORM....maybe new versions of HAWKMAN and HAWKGIRL?

RIP HUNTER looks kind of cool, but he wouldn't exactly be the most exciting figure.

For the love of God, can we please get a comic accurate REVERSE FLASH??


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 12, 2016, 06:18:40 pm
There was one in DCUC wave 20.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on January 12, 2016, 06:44:21 pm
A Heatwave like this?  ;)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/NiteOwl75/photo111_zpsv09ezxh4.jpg) (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/NiteOwl75/media/photo111_zpsv09ezxh4.jpg.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 12, 2016, 08:15:15 pm
Yep, that's the one!

I just Googled DCUC Wave 20.  I don't know where the hell I was when that came out.  I honestly do not remember that wave at all. 

Sigh....I guess the senility is kicking in early.  :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on January 12, 2016, 08:58:12 pm
It should be action figure law, every hero made needs at least 6 rogues to be made spontaneously.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 13, 2016, 03:48:13 pm
I just Googled DCUC Wave 20.  I don't know where the hell I was when that came out.  I honestly do not remember that wave at all.

http://www.itsalltrue.net/?page_id=4967

When in doubt, I always consult these guys.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 13, 2016, 05:18:57 pm
So there's a massive rumor floating around the Fwoosh about the next wave(s) of Multiverse...

DC MULTIVERSE 6IN AQUAMAN AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN DKR ARMORED BATMAN AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN DKR MUTANT LEADER AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN DKR ROBIN AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN SUPERDOOM AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN SUPERGIRL TV AF
BVS MOVIE MASTER 6IN APOCALYPSE BATMAN AF
BVS MOVIE MASTER 6IN LEX LUTHOR AF
BVS MOVIE MASTER 6IN LEX LUTHOR PRISON AF

DKR Robin and Mutant Leader for me.  Maybe DKR armored Bats.  If true.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 13, 2016, 07:31:13 pm
Hmmm...I think that by that point, I was pretty much giving up.  They seemed to be impossible to find, or priced ridiculously.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 13, 2016, 07:36:43 pm
The concept of diversity is getting a bigger push than any time before in history.


Mattel gives you Batman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 13, 2016, 07:54:57 pm
Yep....just different versions of SUPERBAT.  It's just like a Pop music station....the same 10 songs played 1,000 times a day.

Sadly, I guess we can't be surprised.  BATMAN is immensely popular, and this is the year of BATMAN vs SUPERMAN. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 13, 2016, 08:56:08 pm
I was pretty sure that if DCUC ever came back in some form, it would be with Batman leading the charge.  I can't really say I have a huge problem with that as long as it's interesting versions of Batman.  Multiverse/Elseworlds qualifies that for me. 

But even if it's not Multiverse/Elseworlds, there are still dozens (hundreds?) of Batman characters/villains and important variants that can be made.  And that's just from the comics.  Other media platforms grow that number almost exponentially. 

To me, as long as this line is running, it leaves open the possibility for other characters.  If I can get a Kingdom Come or Red Son or Thomas Wayne Batman in the process, so be it.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on January 14, 2016, 11:02:43 am
Zero interest in any of those. I'm fine with some Batcentric figures, but would it kill them to slip in just ONE classic villain or a Tim Drake Robin?

Do the 4H even do these anymore?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 14, 2016, 01:40:31 pm
To me, as long as this line is running, it leaves open the possibility for other characters.  If I can get a Kingdom Come or Red Son or Thomas Wayne Batman in the process, so be it.   

You've missed your window with Kingdom Come. DKR is hot right now. They'll milk that dry.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 14, 2016, 04:24:54 pm
To me, as long as this line is running, it leaves open the possibility for other characters.  If I can get a Kingdom Come or Red Son or Thomas Wayne Batman in the process, so be it.   

You've missed your window with Kingdom Come. DKR is hot right now. They'll milk that dry.

Not 100% sure about that.  2016 is the 20th anniversary of Kingdom Come.  And DC has shown it doesn't give two shits whether the creators are involved in stuff like this or not.  Neither Ross or Waid seem to be on good terms with DC at the moment.  Watchmen went off with no involvement by Moore and only passing involvement by Gibbons.  And it sold huge numbers.  Con season hasn't started yet and we've little idea of what DC is up to this year.  I'm not saying a KC tribute series is happening.  I just won't be surprised if it does.  And KC tribute figures from Mattel/DCC wouldn't be too far fetched. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 14, 2016, 07:11:19 pm
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN AQUAMAN AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN DKR ARMORED BATMAN AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN DKR MUTANT LEADER AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN DKR ROBIN AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN NIGHTMARE BATMAN AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN SUPERDOOM AF
DC MULTIVERSE 6IN SUPERGIRL TV AF
BVS MOVIE MASTER 6IN APOCALYPSE BATMAN AF
BVS MOVIE MASTER 6IN LEX LUTHOR PRISON AF

So I found a longer list, supposedly from Diamond Dis. of all places.  I edited for length all the figures that have been released or shown.  Leaving us (me) with some interesting questions.  If accurate. 

Aquaman:  Which one?  We've already seen a few and some repaints.  I'm actually hoping for some version of Aquawoman.

DKR Armored Batman, Robin, and Mutant leader.  A little slice of awesome.  To me.     

Nightmare Batman:  Probably from the Infinite Crisis online game.

Superdoom:  A character out of the nU 52 Multiverse.  Earth 45 apparently. 

TV Supergirl:  Gonna be a popular choice.

Rounded out by a couple more Movie Masters.  Prison Lex and Apocalypse Batman.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 14, 2016, 07:51:39 pm
So, if I understand correctly, this means infinite versions of BATS and SUPES with members of the BIG 7 occasionally sprinkled in.

I'm happy for anybody who wants that, but it sure doesn't do anything for me.  I would say that now, there is a 0.0% chance of anything pre 2000.  Also, I would assume that out of every 10 figures they make for the next 5 or so years, maybe 2 of them won't be BATMAN or SUPERMAN related.

Granted, I'm sure there will be some SUICIDE SQUAD movie figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 14, 2016, 08:08:50 pm
I think they may be gauging interest with the big two.  I'm not writing anything off yet.  And I really don't mind the Elseworlds stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 15, 2016, 02:29:39 am
What's a "Superdoom"?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 15, 2016, 07:17:16 am
http://www.comicvine.com/superdoom/4005-86094/

From the mind of Morrison.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 15, 2016, 09:54:57 pm
Proof that people do want more and more BATMAN:

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=25775



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on January 15, 2016, 10:10:34 pm
Those things were on sale from China last year for less than retail and I still wasn't interested  ;D

The Super Friends Batman buck when they had a more appropriate Silver Age buck? Puh leeze.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 15, 2016, 10:37:03 pm
I do think the yellow one would be a great buck for a BA CATMAN figure.   :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 01, 2016, 10:09:02 pm
So apparently someone over at the Fwoosh found part of the Wal-Mart DKR wave.  The hunt is on again.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 02, 2016, 10:08:40 am
Done.  DKR Superman found before noon.  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 02, 2016, 12:00:40 pm
Now I want Kingdom Come figures even more.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 02, 2016, 03:54:01 pm
Wal-Mart exclusive DKR wave case pack seems to be...

3xBatman
2xSuperman
1x Son of Batman

The army builder is short packed. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 02, 2016, 05:10:00 pm
Well at least they got some Bat and Supermen on the shelves.  Drought of those I tell you.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 03, 2016, 04:04:04 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=25875

Movie Aquaman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on February 03, 2016, 04:46:09 pm
The army builder is short packed. 

Sadly, Wal Mart probably just thinks of it as "Not Superman or Batman"  :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 03, 2016, 08:21:43 pm
I think AQUAMAN looks really cool.  Jeez....the phrase "Movie Aquaman"....who would have ever thought we could say those words?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 03, 2016, 08:28:30 pm
The army builder is short packed. 

Sadly, Wal Mart probably just thinks of it as "Not Superman or Batman"  :(

He comes with a Molotov cocktail and a long barrel shotgun.  Great accessories. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 03, 2016, 08:43:08 pm
I finally get a Rob Zombie action figure!   [yess]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on February 04, 2016, 06:21:49 am
I finally get a Rob Zombie action figure!   [yess]

 [mwaha] [mwaha] [mwaha] [mwaha] [mwaha]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on February 06, 2016, 02:08:39 pm
When does Mattel's deal with DC Comics expire again?  I may have to make a countdown page.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 06, 2016, 04:36:36 pm
I'll bet SD COMICS knows.  Didn't MATTEL pay buttloads upon buttloads of money for the DC license?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 07, 2016, 12:16:22 pm
When does Mattel's deal with DC Comics expire again?  I may have to make a countdown page.

Signed in 2014, deal expected to last 3-5 years according to Variety:

http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/mattel-signs-new-toy-deal-around-dc-comics-superheroes-exclusive-1201218302/


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 14, 2016, 03:09:47 pm
http://news.toyark.com/2016/02/14/toy-fair-2016-mattel-dc-comics-figures-195137

Here we go...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 14, 2016, 03:22:47 pm
It appears that leaked list from a few pages back was dead on.  Cheap year for me with only DKR Armored Batman and Mutant Leader in the pipe. 

Five more months and maybe I'll see something I really want at SDCC.  :-\ 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on February 14, 2016, 03:28:13 pm
What a bunch of crap. The Multiverse has never felt so small.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 14, 2016, 03:32:13 pm
It's apparent which way the wind is blowing at WB/DC.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on February 14, 2016, 03:40:44 pm
Yes, and it smells like a fart. Can't one company produce some damn classic DC figures? DCC and their Icons line is no more promising for classics.  [cursing]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on February 14, 2016, 04:35:52 pm
Ugh.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 14, 2016, 04:50:31 pm
So three for me for the foreseeable future...

Earth 23 Superman
DKR Armored Batman
Mutant Leader

Cheap year.  Which is good in a way.  I'm currently hunting about 20 DCUC pieces. 

SDCC in five months.   ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 14, 2016, 08:33:19 pm
Sorry for those guys that were holding out hope. Love him or hate him, I think the only reason classic figs made it to production was Toyguru.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on February 14, 2016, 08:56:14 pm
supergirl looks good.katana looks like crap,i don't get the super doomsday or the new doomsday.the DKR look alright.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 14, 2016, 10:01:06 pm
Sorry for those guys that were holding out hope. Love him or hate him, I think the only reason classic figs made it to production was Toyguru.

I wasn't expecting much.  Just hoping for a bit more than this.  Generally speaking Mattel underwhelms at NYTF.  SDCC is where they bring out the big stuff.  I do expect a bit of a shift once Mattel realizes how badly these media figures are pegwarming. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 14, 2016, 10:04:41 pm
Can't one company produce some damn classic DC figures? DCC and their Icons line is no more promising for classics.

I remember saying before that I wish somebody would buy or share a partial DC license.  You can't tell me there's not a market for some pre-2000 stuff out there.  And I don't mean just high end $200 figurines, statues, and props.

I'm not saying WARNER BROS shouldn't capitalize on all the hot trends....I'm just saying that I think it's crazy to simply abandon the past like it's a bowl of soggy cereal.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 15, 2016, 02:49:59 am
Hahahaha.....it must suck so bad working in the superhero department at Mattel.

What a pile of shit. Nothing for me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on February 15, 2016, 07:01:39 am
Sorry for those guys that were holding out hope. Love him or hate him, I think the only reason classic figs made it to production was Toyguru.

I wasn't expecting much.  Just hoping for a bit more than this.  Generally speaking Mattel underwhelms at NYTF.  SDCC is where they bring out the big stuff.  I do expect a bit of a shift once Mattel realizes how badly these media figures are pegwarming. 

Do we though? This company has its head so far up its ass. It's like they literally do the opposite of what makes sense.

Hey dipshits, look at what Hasbro is doing and copy it. Waves with roughly a third mix of classic/modern/movie figures. They're rolling in the fucking dough over there and you all can't find a retail presence for fucking anything NOT Ben Affleck. THIS WAS YOUR GODDAMN YEAR! There's a massive movie coming out that could've held a movie line AND a comic line!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on February 15, 2016, 07:22:43 am
No sense holding your breath for classic DC figures -- especially any that haven't been done before.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 15, 2016, 07:47:19 am
As resident DC apologist, I have little to say other than what I will do personally.

And that is keep going on a literal figure by figure basis.  DCUC is still my all time favorite action figure line.  Nothing comes close in my view.  Did they fuck up?  Yeah, they did.  Badly.  Can they come back?  Maybe.  But not like this.  The movie and TV figures are peg warming badly around here.  The movie figures may get a bump when the movie actually opens.  On the other hand, End Game Joker and the Wal-Mart DKR wave are much tougher to find. 

So as long as Mattel is making comic accurate figures somewhat compatible with DCUC, even on the MotUC bucks, I'll keep an open mind and cherry pick.  So far, that's three figures this year. 

Pretty sad when the most interesting figure they show is the DKR Mutant Leader.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on February 17, 2016, 04:23:24 pm
I made these lists about a year ago, a great way to tidy up some loose ends. I made them with the idea of selling them as a full set like LOSH. The more we keep getting flooded with Marvel Legends, the more it infuriates me that DCUC got tossed out the fucking window. Put these on a Kickstarter style pre order system and let it go!

Fourth World
Highfather
Stompa
Lashina
Mad Harriet
Black Racer
Kanto
Infinity man
Oversized: Granny Goodness

If they're clever, Stompa and Granny could probably share parts. Highfather could be on Ares body. Would like a redo of Barda using MOTU parts, but I figure new characters are more important. Hated to leave out the Forever People.

JSA
Dr Mid-Nite
Sand
Hourman (one of the two Johns era versions)
Liberty Belle
Mr Terrific
Johnny Thunder
Psycho Pirate
Oversized: Thunderbolt

Thunderbolt probably isn't really oversized, but whatevs.

JLA
Kyle Rayner (classic costume)
Aztek
Zauriel
Felix Faust
Vandal Savage
Prometheus
Vixen
Oversized: the General

Filling out 90s and getting 3 major villains.

Batman
Robin (Tim Drake, an actual version besides that half assed POS we got)
Catwoman (purple costume)
Scarecrow
Mad Hatter
Ventriloquist
Commish Gordon
Talia
Oversized: Killer Croc

Most of these would be pretty easy. Croc could be based around a MOTU body


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on February 17, 2016, 06:25:20 pm
I'd guestimate that in about 5 years -- you should be able to get decent custom static figures from a 3D printer. Yes, they will be pricey -- and articulation will most likely be limited or non-existent, but could be an ideal way of filling the gaps in your collections.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 17, 2016, 09:10:06 pm
I've often joked and said that  waaay down the road, there won't even be action figures.  You will buy a mechanical disc about the size of a poker chip, push in a button on the side, and an awesome hologram of the character will appear.  Virtually any character will be available.

If I'm still alive and coherent then, I'm getting DOMINIC FORTUNE, FOOLKILLER, JAVELIN, CLOCK KING, and many, many more!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on February 29, 2016, 08:54:56 pm
I'll just ask on here rather than make a thread,

Anyone have either the TRU All Star Batman or the one from the 2 pack with Robin? Just one of the Batman figures that had the solid black logo with no yellow oval.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on February 29, 2016, 09:22:09 pm
Here's a nice little resurrection of some dead lines. My friend wants the JLU and I want the DCUC, I'll find a home for the others:

http://news.toyark.com/2016/02/26/mattel-batman-superman-super-hero-showdown-packs-197212


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on March 01, 2016, 01:28:45 am
^Is it just me or do they almost look like bootlegs?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on March 01, 2016, 03:26:56 am
Getting rid of the trunks was a bad idea.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on March 01, 2016, 11:06:32 am
True.  It's just not SUPERMAN without red trunks.    :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on March 01, 2016, 06:24:50 pm
Second half of multiverse wave 1 is hitting the Midwest.  A guy on Fwoosh found 'em in Michigan.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on March 01, 2016, 08:49:12 pm
Is that the wave with Batman and black Superman?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on March 01, 2016, 09:01:44 pm
That's the one.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on March 10, 2016, 02:55:33 am
The wave with President Superman is back in stock @ Amazon.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 04, 2016, 11:37:17 am
Found President Superman after a month of looking.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 19, 2016, 03:25:39 pm
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/afiscoopweek-11th-anniversary-day-2-mattel-s-dccomics-multiverse-dark-knight-returns-robin/

DKR Robin.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 19, 2016, 08:23:19 pm
That's pretty decent.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 19, 2016, 08:26:53 pm
Supposedly that's the ThunderCats kid buck.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on April 19, 2016, 08:48:09 pm
These are fun, but just a tease for anything pre-NU


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 19, 2016, 10:30:25 pm
Gotta be honest, I'm not crazy about the DKR figures on the MotUC bucks.  But they are cool to have anyway.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 20, 2016, 05:49:30 pm
Gotta be honest, I'm not crazy about the DKR figures on the MotUC bucks.

I agree, but I do like the way the boots don't just look painted on.  I like they way they slightly 'flair out' at the top. 

Am I buying these?  No.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 20, 2016, 07:57:53 pm
I'm in for the three DKR figures.  Probably the only new figures I buy this year.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 21, 2016, 07:14:53 am
I did buy the DKR Superman and President Superman too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on April 21, 2016, 10:29:36 pm
Still waiting on a figure worth adding to my DCUC shelves.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 21, 2016, 10:34:18 pm
I think you'd like E-23 Superman.  Read the comic first though. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 23, 2016, 12:43:27 am
I did buy the DKR Superman and President Superman too.

You're on fire!  :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on April 23, 2016, 02:23:02 pm
I just got a Sons of Batman and president supes. The SOB is a well done figure. Supes however was very cheaply produced.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 23, 2016, 03:27:00 pm
Yep.  Supes was done on the cheap.  Still, I like these types of characters.  And have high hopes for many more like him. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on April 25, 2016, 04:20:03 pm
well the missing 8th figure from the BVS line is going to be the nightmare bat creature  [thumbs down] ??? maybe you can use it as a movie manbat figure but pretty lame choice why not a parademon or doomsday?not that any figure from that movie is highly desired.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 25, 2016, 05:44:26 pm
........not that any figure from that movie is highly desired.

 :D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 25, 2016, 06:47:48 pm
I thought Julius would have the SS Harley reveal. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 29, 2016, 03:39:59 pm
So it appears that Lex and the Bat creature are starting to hit out west.  SS wave 1.1 should start to hit a few weeks.  Multiverse wave 2.1 after that.  Split waves appear to be where it's at for Mattel. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 29, 2016, 03:43:54 pm
http://thefwoosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=93301&start=1620

Pics.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on April 29, 2016, 09:25:09 pm
It's amazing just how opposite their strategy is from the DCUC days.  It's almost like the Kenner years.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on May 08, 2016, 07:08:08 am
Found the creature and Lex yesterday at Target here in Kentucky. So they're making their way out east.

I think the biggest change in strategy is their shift from making cool figures to making dumbass ones.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 08, 2016, 08:53:58 am
SDCC should be interesting.  Maybe we get a hint of the Wonder Woman movie figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on May 08, 2016, 09:48:45 am
With a 1920's movie setting i can't see WW figures being very interesting.  I'm betting Mattel doesn't even do any traditional figures for WW.  Ghostbusters is gonna bite them hard too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 08, 2016, 10:43:00 am
The main problem that I can see with Wonder Woman figures is that she sells.  Her supporting cast and villains don't.  Giganta being the exception because of the Super Friends connection. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 08, 2016, 10:56:42 am
And my apologies, I thought Wonder Woman was coming out earlier in 2017.  Current release date is 6/2/17.  We may not see any Wonder Woman after all at SDCC.  Mattel may sit on it until NYTF 2017.  I believe the DC tent pole next year will be the Justice League Part 1 (I am Captain Obvious  ;)).  JL Part 1 is out on 11/17/17.  I believe in terms of Mattel/DC action figures, that will tell the tale.  Both movie and comic accurate.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on May 08, 2016, 04:17:46 pm
Is Flash all of a sudden a hot figure in your areas? They peg warmed here and now they're gone, and even TRU, Target and Wal Mart don't have them online. I can still buy Arrow though.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 08, 2016, 04:22:24 pm
Same here.  A few Arrow.  No Flashes, few Reverse Flashes.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 24, 2016, 08:32:24 pm
http://www.newsarama.com/29453-dc-universe-rebirth-splash-page-introduces-new-heroes-raises-questions.html

Now I really wanna see the DC Universe brand re-emerge at SDCC.  This splash is awesome. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on May 25, 2016, 02:02:50 am
Seeing Nu Wally in Bart's costume is blasphemy to me.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on May 25, 2016, 09:26:12 am
It does look better than the Nu52 designs, but still a lot of over-design to the costumes.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on May 25, 2016, 11:30:40 am
Seeing Nu Wally in Bart's costume is blasphemy to me.

I actually preferred the open domed silver one he had a few years back, but I'd much rather have Bart back (as Impulse) than nu Wally as Kid Flash 5 or 6.

The Shazam family looks dreadful. And in a few years, we'll be wondering who some of the characters are in that image.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 25, 2016, 12:12:00 pm
I kinda like the Shazam family.  And the more speedsters the better. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 25, 2016, 12:20:00 pm
It does look better than the Nu52 designs, but still a lot of over-design to the costumes.

I agree.  Lots of extra bulk, straps, layers, and padding.  Maybe that's more 'realistic', but I'm not a fan.  I also hate that Roy is still sporting that stupid baseball cap!  Ugh!

Overall, I'm much more excited than I am disappointed, though. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 25, 2016, 06:31:30 pm
A new costume for Harley. Merchandisers must be rubbing their hands together.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on May 26, 2016, 09:35:36 am
A new costume for Harley. Merchandisers must be rubbing their hands together.

And some other body parts.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 26, 2016, 09:43:25 am
+1.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 26, 2016, 05:53:23 pm
Is it funny that Harley went from very underdressed ( which I have no problem with ) to an almost conservative version of herself??


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on May 27, 2016, 09:04:52 am
I think that was a reaction to the criticism on the Nu52 where she became a slutty version of herself - at least in initial dress.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on May 29, 2016, 07:14:30 pm
I got metron(without the chair) off of eBay for 15 bucks and no shipping🤓


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 29, 2016, 07:34:59 pm
I got metron(without the chair) off of eBay for 15 bucks and no shipping

Steal.

I really like his hands. So much better than the standard fists most of them came with.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 29, 2016, 08:06:15 pm
Got a similar deal on Metron.  One of my faves of the line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 17, 2016, 04:13:10 pm
FWIW to those of you interested,  MM Harley and Deadshot are both showing up on eBay.  Six and twelve inch scales.  There's also some variants so you can build Croc with a hoodie.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on June 17, 2016, 04:43:49 pm
Also Batman and Joker in the wave.  Surprise!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 17, 2016, 05:04:57 pm
Yay!  More Batman to peg warm!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on June 17, 2016, 05:45:10 pm
Yay!  More Batman to peg warm!

I honestly don't think any of the BvS merch moved. There's tons of it around here. It'll be in the dump bins in about 6 months.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 17, 2016, 09:45:01 pm
I honestly don't think any of the BvS merch moved. There's tons of it around here. It'll be in the dump bins in about 6 months.

Let's just hope that TPTB don't interpret that as "Hmm....nobody wants DC toys anymore".  [think]

I swear....I honestly think I could go 5 years without seeing a single BATMAN, JOKER, or HARLEY and I would be just fine.  ( No offense to anybody who is really digging that stuff )



Yeah, yeah....I know I said earlier that I would buy a 'New' BATMAN.  [slapfight]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 17, 2016, 10:37:30 pm
Obviously I don't know what's gonna happen at SDCC.  Last year I expected nothing and got a little taste.  And I mean very little.  The only thing I got out of that first Multiverse wave was Earth 23 Superman.  Since then it's expanded a bit to include 4 out 6 DKR figures.  A taste.  In 2008 I bought 32 individual DCUC figures out of 41 produced and 1 out of 4 retail two packs.  I want more than a taste again.

There is an energy that has infused this Rebirth event.  A forward motion that DC has not had in a very long time.  The more I see, the more I like.  It feels permanent.  It feels like coming home.  It's fun again.  Mattel would be stupid not to get in on it.  I realize I'm getting my hopes up.  I realize that Mattel has invented new ways to disappoint fans.  I realize we won't be getting classics and I also hope that means Super Powers/Friends are done too.  But this is the natural evolution for this line.  Remember New 52 killed it.  Rebirth should revive it.  And the truth is, I'd seriously consider purchasing many of the redesigns and new characters. 

DCUC and related is still my favorite figure line of all time.  If I sound deluded, please take that into account.  [banghead] 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on June 18, 2016, 03:49:30 pm
I'm glad I got aquaman,lex and bat creature when I did,I haven't seen them be refreshed since plus TRU has a ton of their unmasked batmen pegwarming.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on June 18, 2016, 07:56:11 pm
I don't know.  I still love my DCUC collection.  I did prune the figures that didn't "fit" for various reasons, especially if they were fetching good money, but most of my collection is intact.

Having said that, I'm not sure how interested I would be in a ML style relaunch.  Hasbro's formula of "replacing" the Toy Biz MLs with (for the most part) more contemporary versions of the characters works for me because the original Toy Biz MLs were so inconsistent to begin with.  Also, for whatever reason, most Marvel characters seem more...I don't know...resilient?...when it comes to costume redesigns.  With Marvel, I feel like the costumes are more of a natural progression where with DC, I often feel like I'm looking at an Elseworlds figure.

I still love the cohesiveness and consistency of the DCUC line, so if I'm just adding characters I already have in their contemporary costumes versus replacing figures with significantly better and more consistent figures, I'm not sure it would work for me.

Also, Icons looked like it was about to crash and burn with the constant delays and those terrible initial pics and video reviews of Superman, but Wave 3 finally hit last week, and while not a masterpiece by any means, the consensus (including myself) is that Superman turned out much better than originally feared/expected.  So, a strong showing at SDCC could get the momentum building again.

Then there's Mattel's laziness and corner cutting that are starting to tear their ugly heads again in the WWE line in 2016 after a couple of stellar years, so they would really have to knock my socks off to get me back on board again.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 18, 2016, 09:46:59 pm
I certainly get all that Xav.  Especially the part about the cohesiveness of the line.   

For now, going under the working assumption that Mattel does have Rebirth plans for 2017, I'm not too sure what I'll do either.  Even when DCUC was at it's zenith, I pretty much stuck with pre 1986 looks unless it was JSA.  The current configuration of my DCUC collection is assorted niches centered around the JSA, New Gods, and Multiverse types.  Plus assorted odds and ends.

In terms of Rebirth, I'd love a wave of Titans.  But I still have absolutely no interest in anything GLC related.  The new Batman costume is great (I think) and Superman's is an improvement over New 52.  And personally, I love "Team Detective".  But I still want the outlier stuff like  Earth 2 (nU 52).  And I'd love the JLA from Batman Beyond.  New Superman looks kinda sharp and Gotham and Gotham Girl are different.  Beyond that, I'd be in for any JSA (obviously).  We have a chance for a proper Mera, Luthor in his new armor, Batwoman, Red Hood, and that's just after three weeks of releases. 

And again, I'm know I'm getting ahead of myself.  Spit balling is all.       

   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on June 20, 2016, 02:54:52 am
Even if Mattel relaunches, they're unlikely to go with a new scale are they? I wouldn't be interested.

If it is same scale, but different look and feel, I'd happily just cherry pick.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 20, 2016, 07:35:58 am
A new (or even an old) scale like 3.75 would be disastrous.  I strongly doubt that even Mattel is that stupid.  Build on the old stuff even if it is new looks and characters from Rebirth.  Make 'em good and people will eagerly buy 'em.

Now I understand that characters like Kamandi and Jemm are done.  Super Powers/Friends is probably played out.  Classics will be a hard sell to TPTB at DC/WB.  But there's still plenty of Batman, Superman, JLA, and GLC low hanging fruit to pick off. 

But there's something that sticks in my mind that JQ said a while back.  People he talked to at the Mattel booth did not want to accept the fact that not everyone is a completest.  Their marketing strategy was based on people buying every figure from every wave.  Clearly delusional.  Not everyone wants every C&C.  There are some people who just buy Superman, or Batman, or team build the JLA.  Or Super Powers/Friends.  I'm the perfect example.  Gimme the JSA and legacies and I'm pretty happy.     

There are plenty of ways to keep the big names evergreen and interesting at the same time.  Figure that out and this line can come back stronger than before.  If it comes back at all.  Here's hoping.             


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 20, 2016, 09:04:54 am
And since I avoided a lot of the modern age big names the last time around, buying some this time may not be a big issue for me.  Depends on how they turn out. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on June 20, 2016, 09:52:01 am
I don't see DCUC ever returning to what it was while Mattel has the license. I still can't believe they couldn't/wouldn't do a second Legion boxed set -- after the initial sold out twice in record time.

Also don't know why they aren't pushing the TV properties. Supergirl is gearing up for season 2 -- and there is not a figure to be found on shelves! They put too much faith in the lackluster Snyder film.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on June 20, 2016, 10:29:38 am
there is a multiverse super girl figure coming probably in the fall.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on June 20, 2016, 10:55:30 am
http://news.toyark.com/2016/06/20/one-look-mattel-suicide-squad-6-inch-packaging-207812

Two Jokers!  Three Harleys!  Different ways to C&C!  All movie based.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 20, 2016, 11:26:55 am
I don't see DCUC ever returning to what it was while Mattel has the license. I still can't believe they couldn't/wouldn't do a second Legion boxed set -- after the initial sold out twice in record time.

I don't think we ever will get DCUC back to what they were either.  But I think we could get a comic accurate line again.  Four waves a year, six figures a wave and a C&C.  Based on Rebirth and Batman and Superman.  From what we know of as of now, twelve of the Rebirth one shots and 21 of the ongoing Rebirth titles have a direct or indirect link to the BIG TWO.  Base a new line around that and I think it could work. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 20, 2016, 11:27:35 am
I don't see DCUC ever returning to what it was while Mattel has the license.

Yeah, that was definitely as good as it will ever get.  That was pretty much the only chance for lots of 2nd and 3rd Stringers to be made, and the last chance for many characters in their Classic costumes.  Even if a new MATTEL line lasts 3 or 4 years, it will be nothing like DCUC. 

That said, we may be in for a few surprises.  I'm sure there will be a figure or two that will toast my bagel.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on June 20, 2016, 03:54:11 pm
I saw 12 inch SSQ figures deadshot and Harley at TRU,plus jada toys metal deformed figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 21, 2016, 06:55:26 pm
Saw Joker and Harley today at TrU.  They're both horrible.  IMHO.  Even for what they are. 

Just another reason for Mattel to shift back to comic accurate. 

Also, it occurs to me...what is Mattel gonna show at SDCC?  The Wonder Woman movie will be almost a year off from SDCC.  The JLA movie will be a year and a half away.  A little too early to show any movie figures I would think.  So what fills the gap?  Rebirth perhaps?  ;D 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on June 21, 2016, 11:48:11 pm
I think it's too soon. Not enough time to have determined how successful Rebirth has been so far. Don't get your hopes up Charlie Brown.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 22, 2016, 07:10:14 am
Too late.  I'm already warming up my kicking leg waiting for Lucy to hold the football.   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 22, 2016, 08:44:30 am
And here's (part) of my line of reasoning:

In May of 2011, DC started rolling out the New 52 for it's September debut.  In July of 2011 at their SDCC panel, Mattel announced the end of DCUC with wave 20 shipping sometime in early 2012.  Done at the request of DC itself no longer wanting to promote a "classic" action figure line.  That was it.  Whatever happened after that was an afterthought.  DCU Unlimited and Batman Unlimited didn't do well.  The subs did worse. 

Fast forward to 2016.  In January, DC started teasing Rebirth for it's June 2016 debut.  SDCC is now less than a month off and it'll be interesting to see what Mattel offers up since so much movie product is piling up on shelves.  Do we come back full circle?  I hope so.  Even if they continue the Multiverse branding and packaging, they can put the Rebirth logo in the corner of the box like they've been doing.  A 2017 rollout makes sense given that the next two movies after Suicide Squad are so far out.   

Or we could get jack shit.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 22, 2016, 02:10:41 pm
Would MATTEL or DCC show unpainted prototypes or just control art?  Granted, it is still really early, but REBIRTH is a huge deal.  Somebody had to already be looking into this. 

But then again....maybe not??   I'm not intelligent enough to figure out how a toy company, or any company works.

[dunno]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 22, 2016, 02:23:49 pm
Traditionally, DCC and Mattel have only shown protos.  Hasbro shows control art regularly at different panels.  Dunno if DCC/Mattel would do that.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on June 23, 2016, 12:01:46 am
Would MATTEL or DCC show unpainted prototypes or just control art?  Granted, it is still really early, but REBIRTH is a huge deal.  Somebody had to already be looking into this. 

But then again....maybe not??   I'm not intelligent enough to figure out how a toy company, or any company works.

[dunno]

Scott Neitlich used to swear black and blue repeatedly that it took 16 months from approval to finished figure so that would means Matty would have to have known about Rebirth quite some time ago.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on June 23, 2016, 12:36:55 am
to be honest,I remember Nu52 figures from matty coming out not too long after the comics.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 23, 2016, 05:18:43 am
to be honest,I remember Nu52 figures from matty coming out not too long after the comics.

It was summer of 2012.  And Mattel only did about ten nU 52 figures.  DCC did about 60.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 23, 2016, 05:23:01 am
Would MATTEL or DCC show unpainted prototypes or just control art?  Granted, it is still really early, but REBIRTH is a huge deal.  Somebody had to already be looking into this. 

But then again....maybe not??   I'm not intelligent enough to figure out how a toy company, or any company works.

[dunno]

Scott Neitlich used to swear black and blue repeatedly that it took 16 months from approval to finished figure so that would means Matty would have to have known about Rebirth quite some time ago.

I remember him saying it took about a year.  Honestly I think he talked so much, he couldn't keep track of all the shit he said.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 29, 2016, 05:37:14 pm
Saw two of the Harley variants, one Joker variant, Batman, and Deadshot at TrU the other day. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on June 30, 2016, 02:59:42 am
I got Deadshot. Damn nice figure. Will pick up the two Harleys on Friday.

Really wish there were some Pre Nu Shitty Two figures in this line, but I don't mind the movie figures. Marvel Legends does it, so Multiverse can too. But I'd really love some comic figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 30, 2016, 07:10:52 am
There have been ten comic accurate figures in the Multiverse line so far.  Six have been released.  Four more are coming in the next wave.  Six of those are DKR figures.  So technically there are some pre New 52 figures in the line.  If you like the MotU bucks and DKR styling.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on June 30, 2016, 11:59:27 am
Which you know I don't.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 30, 2016, 12:12:20 pm
Wasn't sure.  ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on July 01, 2016, 07:20:25 pm
saw 6 inch SSQ today at TRU.I don't think they looked too good :-X,maybe I'll want them the next time I see them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on July 02, 2016, 04:04:43 am
Wasn't sure.  ;)

Can't stand Frank Miller, the sexist, homophobic cunt.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 02, 2016, 11:29:17 am
Not much of that in the current run.  No homophobia I can discern and it seems that the ladies have taken the lead this go round.  Wonder Woman, Lara El, and Carrie/Robin are all front and center.  Mostly the theme seems to be about religious fundamentalism and some in society willing to capitulate to it. 

I've never been able to fully figure out Franks politics.  Politically Correct he's certainly not.  But he's taken shots at Reagan in the original DKR, and this time he took a shot at Trump.  But taken in context of the story, his actual target is thinly veiled radical Islam.  That with the misogyny and homophobia, I guess Frank hates everybody. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 02, 2016, 11:42:06 am
That with the misogyny and homophobia, I guess Frank hates everybody.

He clearly hates Superheroes.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: darthfoley on July 03, 2016, 06:24:23 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=26731

Supposedly Diablo and Rick Flagg figures for SS, from a Chinese seller.

As one comment online said, Diablo looks like a Juggalo cosplaying as Archie.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 03, 2016, 10:48:52 pm
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-mattel-s-suicidesquad-multiverse-action-figure-line/

Full explanation of the Suicide Squad wave(s). 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 03, 2016, 10:59:27 pm
I see all this shit Matty puts out now & think of what we had with DCUC. It makes me sad.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 04, 2016, 12:10:47 am
I see all this shit Matty puts out now & think of what we had with DCUC. It makes me sad.

Agreed. I think the death of DCUC was also what killed the 'Mess. It's something we all pretty much had in common.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 04, 2016, 05:01:24 am
 [slapfight]  [banghead] [cursing] [popcorn]

Yep.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 04, 2016, 09:47:22 am
As optimistic as I've been lately, I'm now trying to manage my own expectations in terms of Mattel going back to a more comic centric lineup.  I'm torn frankly.  They seem to be all in for movie figures, even for a movie that may crash at the box office.  Make no mistake, Suicide Squad isn't remotely a sure thing.  And yet we have thirteen figures to show for it plus Croc(s).  The under performing Batman v Superman got us ten figures with at least one more on the way.  And none compatible with previous Movie Master releases.  There are another four TV figures that are also not compatible with the current MM.  Apparently there is also a MM Batcave coming to Wal-Mart soon.

Having said all that, there's an eleven month lag between SDCC and the Wonder Woman movie.  So what does Mattel actually show us at SDCC?  Hell, Multiverse wave 2 hasn't even started showing up yet.         

Then again, if there ever were a time for Mattel to get back on the comic book horse, this is it.  Rebirth is a bona fide smash hit.  2nd and 3rd prints are coming fast and furious.  Advance reorders are blowing Marvel out of the top 25 spots.  And the price of 1st prints is steadily going up on the secondary market.  We have new costumes, new characters, and new teams.  And some older stuff pushed aside for almost five years is coming back.  Classic figures are probably done.  Gone with the CoIE sub.  Without Neitlich, Super Powers may be done too.  Although it's possible Beneke and the 4H might pick up that banner.  Eleven SP/SF to go by my count. 

Anyway, we're two and a half weeks out and I'm getting a little antsy.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 04, 2016, 11:12:00 am
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-mattel-s-suicidesquad-multiverse-action-figure-line/

Full explanation of the Suicide Squad wave(s). 

Thank the toy gods I don't actually want these figures.  A line that's difficult to collect AND you don't get to hear from the manufacturer how it even works?  Bravo, Mattel.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 04, 2016, 11:35:16 am
IIRC this is their first shot at a C&C variant.  Causing the confusion/stupidity.  At least they're doing Flagg.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 04, 2016, 12:01:53 pm
Everything is definitely about Movie, TV, and Video Game versions.  For the most part, Classic looks are left to the occasional statue, bust, or insanely expensive Hot Toys style figure.  As I've said, it's pretty ironic that as this stuff becomes more and more popular, there's actually less and less for fans of the original source material to buy. 

But whatta ya do?   Sadly, we will never get another line like DCUC again.  Now, it's like a giant grocery store filled with every type of food I don't like.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 04, 2016, 02:21:37 pm
Everything is definitely about Movie, TV, and Video Game versions.  For the most part, Classic looks are left to the occasional statue, bust, or insanely expensive Hot Toys style figure.  As I've said, it's pretty ironic that as this stuff becomes more and more popular, there's actually less and less for fans of the original source material to buy. 

But whatta ya do?   Sadly, we will never get another line like DCUC again.  Now, it's like a giant grocery store filled with every type of food I don't like.

Outside of comics, DCUC is all I collect.  Not just action figures, but in general. 

When DCUC (and related) first started, I tried to stay away from "modern" figures.  With some exceptions.  "Classic" to me meant pre Man of Steel #1 (Summer of 1986) when John Byrne took over Superman.  This to me was where DC "rebooted" for the first time and I just wanted stuff from the pre-Crisis Universe.  My tastes have evolved some since then.  Mostly where the JSA or various Multiverse/Elseworld characters come in.  And that is also part of the problem.  Where does "classic" begin?  Some people say 1978 when the "DC Implosion" hit.  Some people say 1984 before CoIE.  Some say 2000 before DiDio.  Still others say 2011 pre Flashpoint.

And I guess that's where I break from most of my internet collector buds.  IF DCUC returns in some form and it's not someone's version of "classic", it doesn't necessarily mean that I'm out.  Little of what I've bought can be classified as "modern" so it'll be a bit different for me anyway.  So if I like a character/design from Rebirth, I'll get it.  If it's cohesive and uniform like DCUC, I just might buy 'em all.  I'm dedicated to this scale, this style, and this (comic accurate) line.  I just hope Mattel feels the same way.           


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 04, 2016, 07:24:36 pm
If it's cohesive and uniform like DCUC, I just might buy 'em all.  I'm dedicated to this scale, this style, and this (comic accurate) line.  I just hope Mattel feels the same way.

Ya know, GARD....I never even thought of that.  I just assumed that any new line would be very similar in style to DCUC.  What the hell was I thinking??  Why did I think that!??  Do the HORSEMEN even do anything for MATTEL DC anymore??

Hell....a new line might be in 4" scale.  They may use individual bucks like TOY BIZ did for MARVEL LEGENDS, though that's pretty doubtful.  We really have no clue what MATTEL will do because Movie figures really don't tell us anything.  DCC is a little more predictable, but we still don't really know.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 04, 2016, 07:59:40 pm
Well I still want 'em to go with DCUC too.  I'm not really looking to start over in another scale and style.  Hopefully the 4H are so busy with this is the reason we haven't heard much from them lately.  I'm looking for a new line to blend with the old.  Best of both worlds as long as QC is good.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 05, 2016, 04:58:03 am
The reason they're not communicating with fans is because we're not important to the bottom line anymore. These are mass market toys and adult dolly collectors are the minority.

I'll be up for Flagg and Diablo as they're universe builders, but you couldn't pay me to take that cocktail dress Harley. What a fucking train wreck.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 05, 2016, 07:02:05 am
I think that's at least part of it.  Hasbro gets along pretty well with Marvel Legends without much communication.  Mattel is counting on movie/TV figures selling themselves. 

I think there's also a factor that can't readily be discounted about the lack of communication and that's Neitlich himself.  He talked too much.  Contradicted himself too much and was caught several times in outright lies.  He created more strife than any brand manager of any toy line in history that I'm aware of.  Other that Georg Brewer that is.  Chances are Neitlich was let go after causing huge headaches for his superiors.  As a reaction, Mattel has stopped talking to us altogether.

Dunno when/if that ever changes.       


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 05, 2016, 01:02:51 pm
The reason they're not communicating with fans is because we're not important to the bottom line anymore. These are mass market toys and adult dolly collectors are the minority.

I'll be up for Flagg....

Sadly, I think you nailed it.  Who wants to deal with a minority of grouchy, annoying dinosaurs who are slowly disappearing??  They have bigger fish to fry.

Also, I finally get a RICK FLAGG figure!  But I don't want a movie version.  [crazy]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 05, 2016, 01:35:20 pm
Neitlich was the only one looking out for our portion of the toy buying base.  I think people treated him unfairly.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 05, 2016, 04:23:47 pm
Maybe he was.  I'm still very happy about Kamandi.  I used to look at it like that too.  Until he started lying and obfuscating.  Until I realize that we didn't even get a full, coherent Satellite JLA, but we did get all 34 Super Powers figures (in some form), plus a good chunk of the Challenge of Super Friends and the proposed 4th wave of Super Powers before the line was tanked.  And don't forget Scott's favorite character...Hal Jordan.  How many times was Hal released...five, six?  I forget.  And all of the GLC members, villains, Rainbow Lanterns and the fucking Deputy Lanterns too.  More figures than Superman got.  More than what was proportional to Green Lanterns popularity at the time.  Scott had a man crush on Geoff Johns.  And the fact that he actually complained about how well the LSH set did.  Oh, and lets not forget that the lines failure is the fans fault.  Nothing at all to do with the decisions of Mattel and DC.

He was a great advocate, as long as his agenda was going forward too.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 05, 2016, 10:06:34 pm
I hope one day we can get a clear picture of what went down. I do think he was a good advocate. I also think he had a lot less power than fans gave him credit for. He probably had to tow the company line if he wanted to keep what was in many ways a dream job. My personal suspicion is that he wasn't blowing Johns so much as DC thought he was hot and forced Mattel to do what was current. Who the fuck knows.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 06, 2016, 06:25:06 am
I hope one day we can get a clear picture of what went down. I do think he was a good advocate. I also think he had a lot less power than fans gave him credit for. He probably had to tow the company line if he wanted to keep what was in many ways a dream job. My personal suspicion is that he wasn't blowing Johns so much as DC thought he was hot and forced Mattel to do what was current. Who the fuck knows.

I agree he was at the mercy of DC, but he cornered himself too many times. I don't care what anyone says, when Scott said they couldn't reveal the full line-up of the sub because they didn't know at the time of it going up at SDCC was an outright fucking lie


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on July 06, 2016, 01:09:48 pm
Yeah, I think DC (and Johns) were very involved with what got made -- especially towards the end -- and that may be why the line crash *cough* rainbow lanterns. But there is no denying that a lot of the Super-Powers and Super Friends stuff isnt' what the core fan wanted. And it may have appealed to a limited non-comics collecting audience, but how many of those guys actually bought the figures?

Still don't get the Legion not getting a second boxed set. They talked of all the work involved in the first set -- but wouldn't a second set have been easier? The buck was done -- the packaging was done. Okay, they needed a better female buck -- but that was always the case -- and not likely to be fixed. When the subscription tanked, they could have said we're going to 'finish' the Legion and call it a day. But no.  [thumbs down]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 06, 2016, 02:25:20 pm
I can't say a single thing that hasn't already been said.  [thumbs up]

What aggravates me is that any more, we pretty much know that there's NO CHANCE of any DC characters with 20th Century costumes.  We can get BRONZE AGE MARVEL characters, but no DC pre 2012.  At least not as 6" figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 06, 2016, 03:51:22 pm
I hope one day we can get a clear picture of what went down. I do think he was a good advocate. I also think he had a lot less power than fans gave him credit for. He probably had to tow the company line if he wanted to keep what was in many ways a dream job. My personal suspicion is that he wasn't blowing Johns so much as DC thought he was hot and forced Mattel to do what was current. Who the fuck knows.

I somehow doubt we ever get the unbiased version of what happened.  The story will always have someone's spin on it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 06, 2016, 03:56:06 pm
Yeah, I think DC (and Johns) were very involved with what got made -- especially towards the end -- and that may be why the line crash *cough* rainbow lanterns. But there is no denying that a lot of the Super-Powers and Super Friends stuff isnt' what the core fan wanted. And it may have appealed to a limited non-comics collecting audience, but how many of those guys actually bought the figures?

Still don't get the Legion not getting a second boxed set. They talked of all the work involved in the first set -- but wouldn't a second set have been easier? The buck was done -- the packaging was done. Okay, they needed a better female buck -- but that was always the case -- and not likely to be fixed. When the subscription tanked, they could have said we're going to 'finish' the Legion and call it a day. But no.  [thumbs down]

Sadly the Super Powers/Friends crowd thought they were the core fans. 

As for the Legion, it would've taken two more box sets to complete the lineup up to 1989 when Levitz left for the second time.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on July 06, 2016, 07:01:22 pm


Still don't get the Legion not getting a second boxed set. They talked of all the work involved in the first set -- but wouldn't a second set have been easier? The buck was done -- the packaging was done. Okay, they needed a better female buck -- but that was always the case -- and not likely to be fixed. When the subscription tanked, they could have said we're going to 'finish' the Legion and call it a day. But no.  [thumbs down]

No time for a second LOSH set as a send off when the logistics of creating the Gold Superman were taking up all resources.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 06, 2016, 07:38:27 pm
I don't think there's any mystery involved, DC was moving into Nu and didn't want their merchandise reflecting the "old". SD has said that industry insiders revealed the line was selling just fine, it was just time for something...Nu. I'm sure the rainbow lantern line wasn't their biggest seller, but it didn't "kill" the line like everyone says it did.

There's no doubt whatsoever that another Legion boxed set would have been cheaper to produce than the first. But when you've got suits saying "who?" It's a hard battle to win. What irks me is that Scott got up every day and spun bullshit to cover for them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 06, 2016, 08:03:45 pm
And ultimately because sales were still good is why I believe we may yet get another comic accurate line at retail at some point.  Soon I hope.  Unfortunately classic is probably done.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 06, 2016, 09:38:27 pm
And ultimately because sales were still good is why I believe we may yet get another comic accurate line at retail at some point.  Soon I hope.  Unfortunately classic is probably done.

But why would they bother?

You've got 50,000,000 people going to see BvS at the cinema.
You've got 50,000 people reading the monthly comics

You've got a fraction of the latter who want "classic" versions of characters. If you were a WB suit looking at the numbers, where would you put your efforts?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 06, 2016, 10:06:45 pm
And ultimately because sales were still good is why I believe we may yet get another comic accurate line at retail at some point.  Soon I hope.  Unfortunately classic is probably done.

But why would they bother?

To wring every red cent out of us possible.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 07, 2016, 08:22:53 am
So I'm an old fart and don't know how to post a link from my iPhone.  I'm lurking at the Fwoosh (as usual) and I find that Mattel has announced one of its panels:

Mattel's DC Comics Collector Firgures:  The Rebirth of the Multiverse.  7/22/16@11:00-12:00 PST featuring Bill Beneke, the 4H, and some folks from WB licensing.  Moderated by Daniel Pickett.

So it seems that Mattel is getting back in the comic accurate pool.  I'm assuming six inch scale with the 4H involved.  Gonna be a long two weeks.  [yess]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 07, 2016, 08:36:26 am
Also if the name of the panel is a tell, I'll guess a combo of Rebirth and Muliverse figures.  No clue on the TV/game stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 07, 2016, 09:49:16 am
Glad to see the Horsemen back in the picture. That's a good sign. Hopefully going forward, the figures will be cohesive to DCUC anyway.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 07, 2016, 10:53:37 am
Glad to see the Horsemen back in the picture. That's a good sign. Hopefully going forward, the figures will be cohesive to DCUC anyway.

 [exactly]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 07, 2016, 03:57:01 pm
http://sdccblog.com/2016/07/mattel-reveals-san-diego-comic-con-2016-panels-signings/

Not gonna pat myself on the back until we hear what's going on and see some protos.  Lots of potential to go sideways here. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on July 07, 2016, 04:19:17 pm
I saw Rick Flagg today at Walmart.they had a display pallet of squad stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 07, 2016, 09:22:52 pm
Yes!!!!

Ok, now to not hope.

Stop it!

4H.

So hard not to hope!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 07, 2016, 09:52:08 pm
I saw comic accurate Rick Flagg today at Walmart.

Fixed.






Just let me have this one.
   ;)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 07, 2016, 10:05:54 pm
Yes!!!!

Ok, now to not hope.

Stop it!

4H.

So hard not to hope!

I know, right.   [rock]  or  [banghead]

Here is my real world realistic analysis of what this line might be:

We can hope for "classics".  But the old saying of "wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which hand fills up first" applies here.  I doubt anything pre Flashpoint or even New 52/DCYou is on the table.  

Having said that, Benecke and the 4H are involved.  All admitted big fans of Super Powers/Friends.  We may see some.  I sure hope I'm wrong because I hate that shit to this day.  But there are plenty of options if they go down that road.  

Multiverse has two meanings.  One to comic fans dealing with the multitude of alternate Earths in DC Comics.  Any comic accurate Multiverse character would be welcome to me and gives Mattel the ability to redo the big names and not be too redundant.  The other is used by DC suits, management, and editorial dealing with DC characters and the DCU itself on multiple platforms.  Movie/TV/Games, etc.  I still think we may see some TV/Game figures in this line.  The movie lines seem pretty self sufficient and interconnecting at this point.      

I think the bulk of what we see will be geared toward DC Rebirth.  This is what makes the most business sense to me based on the freight train Rebirth has become.  All of the above is my humble opinion. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on July 08, 2016, 10:21:56 am
Yeah, I think DC (and Johns) were very involved with what got made -- especially towards the end -- and that may be why the line crash *cough* rainbow lanterns. But there is no denying that a lot of the Super-Powers and Super Friends stuff isnt' what the core fan wanted. And it may have appealed to a limited non-comics collecting audience, but how many of those guys actually bought the figures?

Still don't get the Legion not getting a second boxed set. They talked of all the work involved in the first set -- but wouldn't a second set have been easier? The buck was done -- the packaging was done. Okay, they needed a better female buck -- but that was always the case -- and not likely to be fixed. When the subscription tanked, they could have said we're going to 'finish' the Legion and call it a day. But no.  [thumbs down]

Sadly the Super Powers/Friends crowd thought they were the core fans. 

As for the Legion, it would've taken two more box sets to complete the lineup up to 1989 when Levitz left for the second time.

Well, it was unlikely the Legion would ever be complete -- and that wasn't even a goal of mine. I just wanted a more complete representation of the classic Legion -- which would have included at ration of 1 female for every 3 male Legion members. Sad that we still don't have a good Mon-El.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 08, 2016, 11:57:32 am
Oh I know the Legion would never be complete.   But another box set of twelve wouldn't have quite gotten the essentials done in my mind.  And 1989 was my personal cut off.  I doubt we get another shot at LSH like that unless the Rebirth Legion is a huge hit.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 08, 2016, 01:52:45 pm
I just wanted KARATE KID, ULTRA BOY, and TIMBER WOLF.  :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 09, 2016, 01:41:36 pm
There's nothing in those solicits to suggest that they aren't going to just continue what they've been doing.  Comic-accurate and TV figs when there's no movie imminent.  All movie all the time when a movie is.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 09, 2016, 03:27:37 pm
My understanding is that the 4H haven't been doing a lot of the movie sculps.  If that is true, then this does sound like a new line. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 09, 2016, 03:53:31 pm
I heard Gentle Giant did the bulk of the movie sculpts.  True or not, I dunno.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: JQ3x29yz4a on July 10, 2016, 02:58:08 pm
No time for a second LOSH set as a send off when the logistics of creating the Gold Superman were taking up all resources.

Argh.

False ... but not terribly far from the truth.

The Legion box set was only created because the executives wanted a big, impressive set. Legion was the perfect subject, and the set was in fact supposed to be twice the size.

Green Lantern got in the way. Not Super Powers. The popularity of the books, the movie, Geoff Johns becoming not only continuity editor at DC but also marketing liaison with Mattel all led to a GL movie line and a GL Classics line. The Legion set was delayed and scaled down. This didn't bother the 4H since most of them don't care for the Legion. To Mattel's credit they kept the set at the original price even though costs had gone up.

Considering the success of the first set, a second set should have been a given. Cornboy even said he would have loved to do more Legion and it would have been no problem since most of the remaining Legionnaires had basic costumes or easily reused parts. But the line was now a Geoff Johns homage line -- Green Lantern, JSA, etc.

The Super Friends / Powers wave was meant to finish off the main characters, with a BAF only SF/SP fans would care about. Rima was left out because she was only in a couple of episodes and still had the chance of popping up in a "comic wave". This wave sold better than the Rainbow Lantern wave.

And there were female Legionnaires coming up the the subscription :)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 10, 2016, 04:19:59 pm
Legion was the perfect subject, and the set was in fact supposed to be twice the size.

Holy shit!!  24 figures!!??  Wowza!!  jaw_drop

Cornboy even said he would have loved to do more Legion and it would have been no problem since most of the remaining Legionnaires had basic costumes or easily reused parts.

Sigh....what could have been.... :(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 10, 2016, 07:51:37 pm
I heard Gentle Giant did the bulk of the movie sculpts.  True or not, I dunno.

I think that's evident in that I've not liked any of them. That would be unusual for the Four Horsemen.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 10, 2016, 07:57:22 pm
No time for a second LOSH set as a send off when the logistics of creating the Gold Superman were taking up all resources.

Argh.

False ... but not terribly far from the truth.

The Legion box set was only created because the executives wanted a big, impressive set. Legion was the perfect subject, and the set was in fact supposed to be twice the size.

Green Lantern got in the way. Not Super Powers. The popularity of the books, the movie, Geoff Johns becoming not only continuity editor at DC but also marketing liaison with Mattel all led to a GL movie line and a GL Classics line. The Legion set was delayed and scaled down. This didn't bother the 4H since most of them don't care for the Legion. To Mattel's credit they kept the set at the original price even though costs had gone up.

Considering the success of the first set, a second set should have been a given. Cornboy even said he would have loved to do more Legion and it would have been no problem since most of the remaining Legionnaires had basic costumes or easily reused parts. But the line was now a Geoff Johns homage line -- Green Lantern, JSA, etc.

The Super Friends / Powers wave was meant to finish off the main characters, with a BAF only SF/SP fans would care about. Rima was left out because she was only in a couple of episodes and still had the chance of popping up in a "comic wave". This wave sold better than the Rainbow Lantern wave.

And there were female Legionnaires coming up the the subscription :)

Shame about the 24 figure Legion set except for the fact that I think a $400.00 price point may have killed it altogether. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 10, 2016, 08:08:13 pm
I heard Gentle Giant did the bulk of the movie sculpts.  True or not, I dunno.

I think that's evident in that I've not liked any of them. That would be unusual for the Four Horsemen.

The bodies are OK I guess.  The heads have been by and large atrocious. 

But then again I only buy the comic stuff anyway so my opinion doesn't count for too much.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 11, 2016, 01:15:58 am
On the subject of high hopes:

Other than some customs from doc, I haven't gotten anything for my DC collection in years. Not for lack of wanting. Today I wandered into my lcs and was surprised that Supergirl came with krypto and streaky. Expensive for two accessories, but since I buy so little, why not?

But then I saw power battery piggy bank that is the perfect scale for a central power battery and got that too!

So.....I'm taking this as an omen.  They'll be more classic figures for all of us. I'm calling it.

Now go check your hopes at the door.  [thud]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on July 11, 2016, 12:14:43 pm
I just wanted KARATE KID, ULTRA BOY, and TIMBER WOLF.  :(

Well, we got those!

I wanted Phantom Girl, Shadow Lass, Dream Girl, Shrinking Violet, Mon-El and Sun Boy for a more classic representation.  There are plenty of other figures I wanted as well -- and I'd assume Blok would be the 'BAF' in a second set.

It's also a shame we only got one of the Fatal Five.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 11, 2016, 02:51:05 pm
You're right KC, but I'll never own them.  The eBay prices for them are always outrageous.  I don't want everybody to have a pity party for me....I'm just saying I can't pay that much for a 6" figure. 

BLOK, POLAR BOY, and for some reason, CHEMICAL KING struck my fancy,too.  Of course DAWNSTAR was great. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 11, 2016, 05:23:14 pm
My interest is piqued because the Horsemen are back in the picture again. Seriously, Matty can't be blind to the success Legends are having, right?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 11, 2016, 05:30:52 pm
Saw the Wal-Mart wave today.  Strangely no Jokers.  Flagg is OK.  But I still wish it were comic style.  He does come with three weapons.  And I can't tell if the vest comes off.  Saw El Diablo too.  :-\

Also saw where Multiverse wave 2.1 is hitting at Target.  Dunno what city though.  And Superdoom is in it too along with Supergirl, DKR Robin, and armored Batman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 11, 2016, 06:30:36 pm
http://thefwoosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=93231&start=2130

Packaged shots.  Supergirl really does look like Melissa. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 11, 2016, 08:49:14 pm
I'm amazed at their ability to make nothing I want.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 11, 2016, 09:21:43 pm
I'm loving the DKR stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 12, 2016, 01:41:08 am
Apparently dkr armoured bats and Carrie Robin are hitting the shelves


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on July 12, 2016, 10:22:02 am
Long time Supergirl fan here -- and fan of the new TV show and Benoist as the lead character. Oddly, that doesn't make me want the figure, but glad it is finally getting made -- and am sure there are plenty who will want it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 12, 2016, 06:55:02 pm
In anticipation of a lot of action on this thread in the next couple of weeks, I think this needs to be stickied again.   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 18, 2016, 08:08:25 am
Is it 2:00 P.M. Friday yet?   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on July 20, 2016, 09:16:44 pm
seeing some hopefuls here grim reaper(I think is his name) obscure DK stuff freaking king shark CNC
http://thefwoosh.com/2016/07/sdcc-2016-preview-night-mattel-dc-multiverse


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 20, 2016, 09:27:47 pm
Pretty sweet DKR stuff. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 20, 2016, 09:45:16 pm
Wow, Year 2 Reaper?  Kind of a deep cut, but still all superbat.  Cassie Wonder Girl may be nice if they fix the play-doh look.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on July 20, 2016, 09:54:36 pm
Reaper is pretty sweet. Dr. Psycho is cool. King Shark is the winner of the night. I think he's supposed to be based on Flash but he totally works for comic depictions too.

And hey, comic stuff that isn't DKR.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 20, 2016, 10:24:35 pm
I'm digging the DKR stuff.  Flash and Wonder Woman look great.  Missed the Joker before they took him down.  And there still could be more to come at the panel Friday.  And at the very least some insight to the strategy behind it.  Plus, no more Matty DC exclusives.  Just retail exclusives.  Wonder Woman is getting a push ahead of the movie.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 20, 2016, 10:31:47 pm
Can we get a mod or an admin to sticky this topic again.  Please.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on July 20, 2016, 10:38:54 pm
Speaking of a WW push, Dr. Psycho is cool, but how about Bronze Age Silver Swan and a GA Wonder Woman?

Ok, I know. They just showed 3 figures I want, which is way more than I expected. I'll stop being greedy.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 21, 2016, 12:12:12 am
This is awesome news!!

Here's more pics...

http://news.toyark.com/2016/07/21/sdcc-2016-mattel-dc-multiverse-wwe-shockmaster-211968


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 21, 2016, 12:34:33 am
Hmmm.... Looks like Damien comes with an alternate head for King Shark.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 21, 2016, 05:11:46 am
DKR stuff for me so far.  Can't wait to hear what they have to say at the panel tomorrow.  They showed more New 52 than I would've expected and less Rebirth than I expected.  But I'm also guessing the panel will give us some surprises.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 21, 2016, 06:57:00 am
So by my count, fourteen new figures, at least four of which are retail exclusives and three new C&C's.  Mix of comics and TV.  Mostly Batman but Wondy is getting some love too.  And I still think they've held something back for the panel tomorrow.  I never did think we'd go back to the days of DCUC, but this is a pretty good start.  Now show me Kingdom Come Superman tomorrow.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on July 21, 2016, 07:08:51 am
Only if he's eventually repainted into E2 Superman


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on July 21, 2016, 08:22:03 am
So that Cassie Wonder Girl looks like it's from the Geoff Johns run on Teen Titans? Odd choice -- especially since DCD did one from that era already.  I don't know if I'll ever get used to the new cutsie Batgirl design -- but the figure does a nice job of capturing the new look.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on July 21, 2016, 08:29:42 am
Well, this is a surprise.  I may pick up Cassie and Doc Psycho.  Cassie depending on how the final figure looks because the DCD version has been been a pretty good DCUC stand-in over the years, and Doc Psycho pending price, availability, etc.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 21, 2016, 09:32:01 am
I'm considering Cassie, Dr. Psycho, Damian, and Batgirl.  The latter two because I like the looks even though I didn't read the books.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 21, 2016, 01:39:48 pm
I, like everyone else, is pretty excited to get some comic accurate figures.'

Boy have our expectations lowered though.

Could you imagine if these were the reveals 5 years ago?

Comic and movie mixed waves and a ton of retailer exclusives? We would have lost our shit. Blood in the streets!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 21, 2016, 02:12:42 pm
Truthfully, I do not see a single figure that I want.  There are several that I think look great, but they are all repeats.  With what action figures cost these days, I have to reeeally want something to pony up the dough.  I am pretty disappointed that a White Wally West KID FLASH didn't show up. ( How racist does that sound? )

Hell....I don't even see any MARVEL stuff that I want.  :-\


I'm not really complaining, though.  There are still dozens of older toys that I want.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 21, 2016, 02:39:51 pm
I've really wanted to be optimistic.  But at the same time, I'm a realist.  Batman sells.  TV figures are very popular at the moment.  But there are still some things I want.  Any DKR figure is good for me.  Wonder Girl is mislabeled.  YJ Wonder Girl wore a black shirt.  That's the comic version and therefore fits into my Legacy niche.  And I'm thinking hard about Rebirth Batman.  And some of the other Bat guys look great as well.  The Rookie armor especially.  I may get Batwing just for giggles.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 21, 2016, 03:07:47 pm
The funny thing is....over half of this stuff isn't aimed at us anymore.  It's for all the newbs who are still getting into it. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 21, 2016, 03:09:05 pm
So, is the Gordon Batman C'n'C from an all-Bat wave?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 21, 2016, 03:33:44 pm
Unknown.  The wave assortments don't seem to have been announced yet.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 21, 2016, 09:20:26 pm
Can't believe no ones mentioned the huge honkin' six inch scale Bat Cave.  Can't link from my iPhone but Julius had a pic up at AFI. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 21, 2016, 09:27:26 pm
Holy Rave in a Cave!  How in blazes did I miss that!???   jaw_drop


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 22, 2016, 06:46:46 am
Other shoe drops today (I hope).  Should see a few more figures at least.  Possibly a whole wave.  I know we're probably never going back to the amazing days of 2009-2011, but Preview Night was a step forward from the last few years.  Buckle up.  Mattel/DC panel 2:00 P.M. EST today.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 22, 2016, 09:49:48 am
Link?  I checked out AFI and didn't see a pic in the news section.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 22, 2016, 10:29:48 am
I'll see if I can find it once I get to my laptop.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 22, 2016, 11:58:05 am
Found it:

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/gallery2/album/SDCC-2016-Mattel-DC-Comics/1469182639-2.php

Meh.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 22, 2016, 02:24:41 pm
So evidently, Mattel shot their wad Wednesday night.  Nothing new from the panel except some WIP pics of Diana and Steve Trevor from the movie.  No details of what was said at the panel yet. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 22, 2016, 02:51:29 pm
So four figs I might buy next year.  That's up from zero!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 22, 2016, 03:54:56 pm
'Bout the same for me with a caveat.  I love families, legacies, and alt versions of most DC characters.  This gives me some breathing room to be able to go back and fill gaps and such.  I just haven't decided whether I actually wanna do that or not.   

But some of those Bat figures are so cool.  Can't believe how much I like Batwing and Rookie.  Rebirth Batman looks great too.  Way better than nU 52.         


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 22, 2016, 11:58:26 pm
When I saw that it was the movie BATCAVE, I just shrugged.   ( Christ....how spoiled are we? )  Can't lie though....it would have been a lot more exciting with a giant penny and a big, honkin' dinosaur.

Since I didn't see anything from FUNKO  ( mainly, 4" GAME OF THRONES ), I saw a grand total of 0.0 figures I want.  That's a first.  Granted, I saw lots of stuff that looked great....just nothing I want to buy.  About the only thing would be PURPLE MAN....

Still, I'm not complaining.  This is always a fun week for me.   [applause] 



Sooo....who's British SPIDER-MAN??


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on July 23, 2016, 09:02:58 am
The only thing from this I would have wanted was Doctor Psycho, so of course he's a CnC. Well, blow that.

That Wonder Woman looks like a Grade 8 Craft Project.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 23, 2016, 10:39:57 am
That WONDER WOMAN is pretty rough, but I feel that it actually fits Miller's ugly, scratchy, 'I truly hate women' art style.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 23, 2016, 11:02:33 am
It looks like the DKIII Wonder Woman.  I like it.

I am very surprised how much I like some of this Bat stuff.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 23, 2016, 11:52:57 am

Sooo....who's British SPIDER-MAN??

Iirc, he's Capt Britain from an alt Universe, who is given a spider totem to travel the multiverse & protect the resident Spideys.  [dunno]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 23, 2016, 11:55:03 am
The only thing from this I would have wanted was Doctor Psycho, so of course he's a CnC. Well, blow that.

That Wonder Woman looks like a Grade 8 Craft Project.

Where did you hear he was a CnC?  Never mind, saw it on the card.  So Wal-Mart's getting a WW wave with: Cassie, DKIII Wonder Woman, probably movie WW and Steve Trevor.  Ugh.  That's a lot of ugly for a Dr. Psycho.  I'm still somewhat hopeful that the all-Bat wave will be tolerable and not broken into two sub-waves.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 23, 2016, 10:59:36 pm
Sooo....who's British SPIDER-MAN??

There was a story called "Spider-Verse" where a bunch of baddies traveled dimensions consuming the energy of that plane's Spider-Person. Eventually our Spidey gets a bunch of the other Spideys together to stop them. The story introduced a bunch of alternates like Spider-Gwen and gave the writer the opportunity to bring in characters like Spider-Ham.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Verse

Back to DCUC.......

The Batcave is interesting. I could see that being decent with some additional paintbrush work.

I think the only figs I want from that motley bunch are Rookie, Dr Psycho and King Shark. If I'm not mistaken, they are all C'n'Cs. Bastards!!!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 23, 2016, 11:13:49 pm
Thank you, DUSTY and FISH.  [thumbs up]

I'm still going to cross my fingers for a REBIRTH White Wally KID FLASH down the road.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 25, 2016, 08:39:41 am
With the JSA being a big part of LoT this coming season, and the JSA coming back to comics at some point soon, I hope that gets them in line for some more figures.  Comic accurate of course.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Josey Wales on July 25, 2016, 06:19:55 pm
Breakdown from TNI-

Spring 2017 King Shark Collect-And-Connect Wave
- Jim Gordon Batman (New 52)
- The Batgirl Of Burnside Batgirl
- Hawkman (DC Legends Of Tomorrow)
- The Joker (The Dark Knight Returns)
- Zoom (The Flash TV Series)
- Earth 2 Flash (The Flash TV Series)

Spring 2017 GCPD Batbot Collect-And-Connext Wave
- Batman Year II The Reaper
- Batman (Rebirth)
- New 52 Batwing
- Wonder Woman (New 52 Convergence)

Spring 2017 Exclusives:
- New 52 Robin (Toys R' Us)
- The Flash Dark Knight III (Walgreens)
- Wonder Woman Dark Knight III (Wal-Mart)
- Young Justice Wonder Girl (Wal-Mart)
- Dr Psycho (Wal-Mart)
- Batcave Playset (Wal-Mart)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on July 25, 2016, 06:36:21 pm
Gah, they can't even put together a full wave I'm interested in.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 25, 2016, 07:34:25 pm
I'm guessing we're a couple figures shy on that Bat-Bot wave.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 25, 2016, 09:36:48 pm
At least I can get Dr Psycho (with a little help from my friends), but King Shark and Bat-Bot are out as I'm interested in only a fraction of the figures on offer.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 26, 2016, 08:03:41 am
My analysis in case you were wondering.  ;D ;)

Spring 2017 King Shark Collect-And-Connect Wave Fantastic.  Splits the difference between TV and comic.
- Jim Gordon Batman (New 52) Bat-Bot needs it's pilot.  Cool design too.
- The Batgirl Of Burnside Batgirl Very popular current version of Batgirl.
- Hawkman (DC Legends Of Tomorrow) TV love.  Not gonna buy it but I understand the direction.
- The Joker (The Dark Knight Returns) Love these DKR figures.
- Zoom (The Flash TV Series) See Hawkman
- Earth 2 Flash (The Flash TV Series) See Hawkman and Zoom.

Spring 2017 GCPD Batbot Collect-And-Connext Wave Cool design.  Big Robots sell.
- Batman Year II The Reaper A figure I never thought I'd see of a character I'd forgotten all about.
- Batman (Rebirth) Knew it.
- New 52 Batwing A cool looking surprise.
- Wonder Woman (New 52 Convergence) Dunno why we're seeing New 52 designs after the New 52 is over?

We seem to be shy a couple of figures for this wave.

Spring 2017 Exclusives:
- New 52 Robin (Toys R' Us) See Wonder Woman above.
- The Flash Dark Knight III (Walgreens) Love DKR.
- Wonder Woman Dark Knight III (Wal-Mart) More DKR love.
- Young Justice Wonder Girl (Wal-Mart) Again we seem to be splitting the difference.  Wrong costume for YJ.
- Dr Psycho (Wal-Mart) A true classic (before CoIE) figure.  Been a while since we saw one of those.
- Batcave Playset (Wal-Mart) Made before Snake Mountain.

Guessing there's a third figure in the Wally Wonder Woman wave.  'Bout three months to NYCC


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 26, 2016, 09:39:48 am
It appears that Batman and the TV figures will fill in gaps.  Current DC films will dictate other characters like the Wonder Woman figures we're seeing mixed in.  Should be a good sign for JLA/New Gods for next year.  Too bad they didn't mix in some comic accurate Suicide Squad figures this year.

As to what I'm buying next year, I'm trying to decide that now.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on July 26, 2016, 08:52:28 pm
I'm happy to be able to get Psycho and Reaper on their own. I may resort to eBay to get King Shark, or work something out with you guys.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 26, 2016, 10:19:18 pm
We get ten comic accurate figures this year.  That number jumps to fourteen next year (at least).  We're trending in the right direction at least. 

I wonder why nothing is scheduled for the end of this year?  Everything from SDCC was marked Spring 2017. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on July 26, 2016, 10:30:35 pm
It appears that Batman and the TV figures will fill in gaps.  Current DC films will dictate other characters like the Wonder Woman figures we're seeing mixed in.  Should be a good sign for JLA/New Gods for next year.  Too bad they didn't mix in some comic accurate Suicide Squad figures this year.

As to what I'm buying next year, I'm trying to decide that now.

God, if we get even ONE classic Fourth World character out of next year, it will be a cause for celebration. If that one is Granny Goodness, I may cry.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 27, 2016, 05:56:45 am
It appears that Batman and the TV figures will fill in gaps.  Current DC films will dictate other characters like the Wonder Woman figures we're seeing mixed in.  Should be a good sign for JLA/New Gods for next year.  Too bad they didn't mix in some comic accurate Suicide Squad figures this year.

As to what I'm buying next year, I'm trying to decide that now.

God, if we get even ONE classic Fourth World character out of next year, it will be a cause for celebration. If that one is Granny Goodness, I may cry.

We have that in writing now.

I'm happy to be able to get Psycho and Reaper on their own. I may resort to eBay to get King Shark, or work something out with you guys.

Yup, that's me too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 27, 2016, 07:14:11 am
It appears that Batman and the TV figures will fill in gaps.  Current DC films will dictate other characters like the Wonder Woman figures we're seeing mixed in.  Should be a good sign for JLA/New Gods for next year.  Too bad they didn't mix in some comic accurate Suicide Squad figures this year.

God, if we get even ONE classic Fourth World character out of next year, it will be a cause for celebration. If that one is Granny Goodness, I may cry.

Granny would be awesome.  I think we get (comic) Steppenwolf 2.0. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 04, 2016, 09:08:47 am
As one of the bigger JSA fans around here, I just have to speculate in that direction.  Geoff Johns assures us that a new JSA comic is coming soon.  Based on the Johnny Thunder scene in the Rebirth Special, the JSA should have a huge impact on the Rebirth/Watchmen storylines.  Guggenheim and crew seem to be assembling a fairly large JSA contingent on DCWTV.  So even with a JLA movie coming, I wonder if we may be seeing some TV and comic JSA out of this line at some point?  That is obviously my hope.  And given that JT is front and center, maybe we get him (finally).     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 07, 2016, 03:20:42 pm
Guggenheim and crew seem to be assembling a fairly large JSA contingent on DCWTV.  So even with a JSA movie, I wonder if we may be seeing some TV and comic JSA out of this line at some point?

I would love to see some comic accurate JSA love.  Sure, it would be great to see some TV JSA figures, but I will always prefer ( and actually buy ) the 'true' versions.  Anything at all to break away from a glut of SUPER-BAT-WONDY-JOKER-HARLEY stuff is good.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on August 07, 2016, 06:40:03 pm
Both JSA teams needed a good amount of help to finish up.

Johnny Thunder, Mr. Terrific, GA WW, GA Supes, E2 Robin

Sand, Hourman (either 2000's version), Dr. Midnite, Jakeem


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 08, 2016, 08:03:16 am
The balance of the JSA is my biggest want.  Second biggest is more Kirby.  Vintage style.  Whether it's more New Gods or not (although it would almost have to be).  I'd take Atlas, Challengers of the Unknown, Klarion, Ben Boxer, Forever People, and even the Dingbats of Danger Street.  Not gonna hold my breath for either.  But it'd be nice to have happen.  I also like building up legacies and family structures within the Superhero community. 

Other than that, I'm down for any actual Multiverse characters which gives Mattel a prime opportunity to redo the heavy hitters without being too redundant.  After they're done with DKR, I'd like to see them switch gears to Kingdom Come.

But hand to God, as much as I'm enjoying Rebirth, I think there's quite a bit there that I'd buy given the chance.  Even if a big chunk ends up being SuperBats.         


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 10, 2016, 04:49:00 pm
Finally came across Multiverse wave 2.1 today.  Found Armored Batman, TV Supergirl and Superdoom.  Carrie/Robin was gone.  Gonna check the other local Toys R Us tomorrow.  Superdoom is fine for what he is.  New 52 design on a MotUC buck.  Passed.  TV Supergirl was so good I almost wished I bought the TV figures.  It is one on the best "real people" head sculpts I've ever seen in six inch scale.  Mattel tends to do OK here as they've had a lot of practice with the WWE since 2010.  Armored Batman seems to be a new type buck somewhat similar to the Capullo styled Year Zero Batman from the first wave.  There is a soft plastic overlay to give the armored effect.  What's underneath would require me to cut open the plastic.  So I don't know for sure if there are any MotUC parts in there or not.  New 52 Doomsday C&C looks to be somewhat undersized based on the crotch and head that came with Batman.  Pretty terrible design too.  And I'm not much of a Doomsday fan to start with.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 12, 2016, 02:33:53 pm
Found Carrie/Robin this morning.  Pretty cool figure.  Dead on representation of the comic.  They're trying something new to hide some joints.  [thumbs up]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on August 13, 2016, 07:05:18 am
I took out my DCUC bins last night.  I've been on an eBay purge and thought I'd double check to make there wasn't anything I wanted to sell.  It's the first time I've taken them all out and taken a really good look at them in at least a year.

They're starting to show their age, both litterally and figuratively.  (I guess figuratively would be litterally in this case, right?   :D)

Some of the plastic is beginning to discolor a bit.  Lightray is really bad.  His torso and upper thighs are now yellowish, while the arms and the legs from the thigh swivel down are still white.  It looks pretty bad.  I had the same problem with ML1 Cap, so I'm not just picking on Mattel.

As for the figures themselves, it's interesting how things that never really bothered me before seem to bother me now.  Things like Lead and Tin being competely out of scale, for example.  At the time, I was a Mattel apologist.  "It's the only way they could finish the Metal Men!  I appreciate the effort!"  Well, yeah...that's probably true, but now that the rose colored glasses are gone, what we got doesn't seem all that different from having an incomplete team.

Then there's other things like realizing just how badly they missed on Superman and even Batman to an extent, and the bodies looking kind of "blockish" compared to current MLs, DC Icons, and even Mattel's WWE Elites.  To be fair, I'm comparing something that's nearly 10 years old to something contemporary, but it's how little the line evolved over the years that really stuck me.  If anything, it devolved as lot of the earlier figures kick the crap out of the later ones in terms of detail.

There are still some great things, like the Golden Age JSA (with the exception of Alan Scott's lousy head sculpt), the Doom Patrol, having a complete Legion of Doom, and having a complete Satellite Era JLA (I count the Zatanna we got since it was her iconic Silver/Bronze Age look.)

I'm just a little bummed, because I always thought of DCUC as my all time favorite line and the gold standard for how a comic accurate line should be done, but now the cracks are beginning to show.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 13, 2016, 11:18:37 am
My rose colored glasses are still on.  DCUC gets me closer to where I want to be than any other line before or since.  Warts and all, I'm not bothered too much.  What does bug me is the slow output of the current Multiverse line in terms of comic accurate stuff and the limited scope of SuperBat.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 13, 2016, 01:09:41 pm
I took out my DCUC bins last night..... They're starting to show their age, both litterally and figuratively.


Very interesting post, XAVION.  [thumbs up]

Along the same lines, try checking out some old DC Direct figures!  What a clusterfuck!  Sure, there are tons of great ones, but there is also a ridiculous mish mosh of screwed up scale, forced poses, Artist Specific sculpts, and articulation that is all over the map.  Many of them seem to be from totally different lines.  None of this is news, of course.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 13, 2016, 02:07:24 pm
Which is why I ultimately gave up on them years ago.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on August 13, 2016, 07:03:03 pm
I purged my DC Direct collection almost completely last year. Don't miss it at all. As you said.... what a mish mash of stuff. And incomplete lines as far as the eye could see.

Amazing at the time that I dropped ao much cash on them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 13, 2016, 08:38:27 pm
And incomplete lines as far as the eye could see.

Sooo true! [thumbs up]  And even if they did make most of the members of a team, they rarely displayed well together. 

Amazing at the time that I dropped so much cash on them.

What other choice did any of us have?  It was them or nothing.

Then, they got the rights to SUPERBAT, which started off great, but then turned into solely Artist Specific Flavor-of-the-Month horseshit.  I went from having multiple orgasms at the sight of the SA BATMAN & ROBIN boxed set to practically hating BATMAN merch.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 14, 2016, 01:06:01 am
I was never a DC Direct collector. Even then I could tell how odd some of the choices were. Some really badly posed figs and the lack of articulation meant they would never stand up.
Odd though, that now I find myself cherry picking the line to bolster the DCUC ranks. Glad I picked up figs like Jimmy and Perry for instance.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on August 14, 2016, 03:06:17 am
^Yes! The weird posing got me:

JSA Wonder Woman - permanently mid-canter
JSA Ted Knight Starman - with his permanently cocked to one side head
Alex Ross Flash - about to run (but didn't really look it), while the rest of the line was static
Raven - hey - arm articulation that basically had 1 pose
Swamp Thing - the mini statue. Literally.
NTT Nightwing - always mid turn

and so on...

And yes - I was always a bit "careful what you wish for" and then we got Super Bat and just - ugh.

That said - some things, like the Silver Age Batman and villains, and (most) of the Silver Age Superman line was really good. I also kept my Doomsday and Reign of Superman figures. They are pretty great.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 14, 2016, 08:51:01 am
Can you imagine what DCD/DCC would look like with a common scale and style starting in 1999.  Skipping over all the movie, game, TV and animated, and artist specific stuff and just concentrating on the comic book source material.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on August 14, 2016, 01:00:46 pm
what I couldn't stand are when they make characters based on video games then their comic look


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 14, 2016, 02:26:52 pm
Can you imagine what DCD/DCC would look like with a common scale and style starting in 1999.  Skipping over all the movie, game, TV and animated, and artist specific stuff and just concentrating on the comic book source material.   

Total nirvana, pure bliss, just Heavenly.....however you want to say it.  I've often imagined that scenario.   ;D

Personally, I always hated video game versions, costumes that lasted all of 3 issues, and the like.  Don't get me wrong....if that stuff sells, I totally get why they make it.  I'm just saying I have NO interest in it. 

I also hate when a Classic version of a character is made as a LEGO, an IMAGINEXT, or as a figurine for a game, but not in a regular line.

Man....I remember how much I hated forced poses, 'V' crotches, scale problems....there's some pretty shitty memories there!  DCUC truly seemed like a Godsend when it debuted.

On the other hand, I really thought DCD was on the right track with HISTORY OF THE DC UNIVERSE.  I bought a handful of those, and hated to see that line end.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 14, 2016, 05:36:05 pm
And that was a big chunk of DCD's problem:  the guys in charge didn't look at the big picture.  Every line was self contained and they could start or stop it when they wanted to.  There wasn't much building going on.  DCUC did a much better job of that with the Doom Patrol, Metal Men, LSH, JSA, Kamandi, OMAC, J'emm, etc.  Even with fewer overall figures, DCUC gave us better variety. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 14, 2016, 07:46:18 pm
Most of Doomsday wave is in stock on Amazon Proper now for $19.99


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on August 14, 2016, 09:40:57 pm
Was DCUC less overall characters than DCD? I know DCD had more different figures, but do they really get points for multiple variations on a lot of A listers?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 14, 2016, 09:50:33 pm
Not by me.  But there were definitely more figures.  More characters, I dunno?  It's a good question for someone to break down at some point.  Not by me tonight though. 

Where DCD is ahead IMHO is in Elseworld type stuff.  I would love for Mattel to do Kingdom Come, New Frontier, Flashpoint, Gotham by Gaslight, Holy Terror, Red Son, etc, in DCUC scale and style.  I'd shit a brick for a Thomas Wayne Batman.  And a ton of others truth be told.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 14, 2016, 11:45:27 pm
Every line was self contained and they could start or stop it when they wanted to.  There wasn't much building going on.

You could not be more right.  It was just all over the damned map.  They would show an upcoming wave and you would get all excited about the potential of where that could go, and then BAM!  No more.  You want the rest of the team?  Too bad....we're moving on to the next thing.

Again....DCUC was pretty much what any longtime DC fan wanted. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 15, 2016, 12:50:53 am
Most of Doomsday wave is in stock on Amazon Proper now for $19.99

Another odd decision. I honestly think the Doomsday we got....that we couldn't get....because we didn't sub....but got anyway despite not preselling a single one....that sold out....is one of the best figures Mattel released.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: NiteOwl on August 15, 2016, 01:09:35 am
Most of Doomsday wave is in stock on Amazon Proper now for $19.99

Another odd decision. I honestly think the Doomsday we got....that we couldn't get....because we didn't sub....but got anyway despite not preselling a single one....that sold out....is one of the best figures Mattel released.

....and Mattel broke their own rule about design/plan to customer 18 month turnaround!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on August 15, 2016, 07:40:40 pm
got armored batman and carrie tonight.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 15, 2016, 08:09:14 pm
Most of Doomsday wave is in stock on Amazon Proper now for $19.99

Another odd decision. I honestly think the Doomsday we got....that we couldn't get....because we didn't sub....but got anyway despite not preselling a single one....that sold out....is one of the best figures Mattel released.

To be honest, though they are late to the party, the nu52 stuff coming out of this Multiverse line is what I always wanted for Superman in the Unlimited line. Super Doom and Ramhorn Doomsday are okay by me. I would have taken Hel as well.

I don't know if it's a double-standard, I'd assume you could care less about the Endgame Joker as well, but I'm sure there are the Batman fans who crave every variant version of the Joker they can get their hands on, but may wonder what they need with another Doomsday.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 15, 2016, 09:32:41 pm
In part, I get the feeling we're getting leftovers from previous lines where comic accurate figures are concerned.  I have the feeling that come NYTF, Mattel will begin to roll out more Rebirth stuff.  Maybe lots of it.  New 52 will go by the wayside.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 16, 2016, 11:26:47 am
I have the feeling that come NYTF, Mattel will begin to roll out more Rebirth stuff.  Maybe lots of it.

I think that's entirely possible.  REBIRTH isn't going anywhere for a while.  It's too big to be a quicky 1-2-3 thing.  Plus, it's big enough that it can last longer than 2 or 3 waves!

New 52 will go by the wayside.

YAAAYYYY!!!!  [rock]  Seriously....I don't expect to see very much that I want, but it's still a lot more to look forward to than any of the 52 stuff offered. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 21, 2016, 01:59:57 pm
So looking back, what DCD line lasted the longest? 

I'm thinking it was the Alex Ross JUSTICE series with 8 waves.  Many of us wanted CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS to go the distance, because it made virtually any DC character possible, but of course that didn't happen.  I was also rooting for HISTORY OF THE DC UNIVERSE, but I was one of the few cheerleaders that line had.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: retcon on August 21, 2016, 07:29:53 pm
Maybr the GL Blackest Night lasted as long? There were a LOT of figs from that storyline/era.

If not, I reckon yeah, Alex Ross would have been definitely the longest run.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 21, 2016, 07:58:44 pm
There's 51 Blackest Night/Brightest Day figures as opposed to 39 Justice figures.  That 51 does not include all the Green Lantern figures from that era that supplemented BN/BD.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 21, 2016, 08:19:06 pm
There's another 29 GL figures on top of that from that era.  It was ridiculous.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: derekwc on August 21, 2016, 08:25:48 pm
So my Katana came in today, which is great, but I'd been getting loose Croc parts on ebay in preparation for the head and crotch piece that came with the sealed figure from Amazon.

(https://s20.postimg.org/9n8k1gnl9/Matty_Red_Card.jpg)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 21, 2016, 10:03:48 pm
There's 51 Blackest Night/Brightest Day figures as opposed to 39 Justice figures.  That 51 does not include all the Green Lantern figures from that era that supplemented BN/BD.

Holy crap!  :o  I had no idea there were that many LANTERN figs! 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 22, 2016, 06:51:30 am
Georg Brewer was a huge fan of Green Lantern.  Geoff Johns was becoming the darling of DC at that point.  The Green Lantern books were selling very well and Blackest Night/Brightest Day were the BIG EVENTS of those years. 

It was all the excuse Brewer needed to load up on Green and Rainbow Lantern characters.  Any sort of pretense at variety went out the window. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 22, 2016, 12:28:27 pm
It's ironic that the GREEN LANTERN movie tanked.  :-\

There's still no BATMAN & THE OUTSIDERS version of KATANA, right?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on August 22, 2016, 05:48:38 pm
no,and no damn geo-force,classic black lightning or halo either :-\(there was a dcd geoforce and BL though)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 22, 2016, 06:58:38 pm
I wish that there was still a way that pre-2000 characters/looks could happen, but it's just not very likely.  We're just too small of a demographic to worry about.  On top of that, with pretty much all the Big Guns and many other secondary characters done, much of what we want would be C and D listers.

 [gah]


The best chance we have now would be 3D printed figures.   :-\


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 24, 2016, 07:31:08 pm
....or customs.

I was getting to the point where every time I did a Marvel custom, Hasbro would make it shortly after (Wrecking Crew, Gladiator, Sharon Carter, Red Guardian).
But it occurs to me that DC is where I should focus now. There's a number of characters that should be pretty straightforward too. Now, if I just had the time....


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 01, 2016, 11:19:55 pm
Over the past week I've picked up Robin, Armored Batman, and Supergirl from Walmart at the error price of $5 each.  [applause]

The error seems to be widespread, so check your Walmarts!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on September 02, 2016, 08:53:13 am
yeah I got bats and Carrie at that price too two weeks ago


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 04, 2016, 05:27:10 am
 >:(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on September 04, 2016, 12:30:59 pm
>:(

 [beer]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 18, 2016, 06:41:33 pm
I heard via Fwoosh that Prison Lex and Mutant Leader are starting to show up in Walgreens. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on September 18, 2016, 09:05:30 pm
yeah I saw Carrie there the other day.i bought tv super girl off amazon.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 18, 2016, 10:21:21 pm
Evidently, that giant honkin' Bat-Cave has hit Wally's as well. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: B-Lister on September 19, 2016, 03:51:23 am
I'd love to find the rest of the Suicide Squad, to build my Croc.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 19, 2016, 10:18:46 am
Found Mutant Leader at the first Walgreens I stopped at.  Done for the year unless any of the stuff marked Spring 2017 from SDCC starts trickling out.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on September 19, 2016, 06:56:32 pm
found SuperDoom at Walgreens.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on October 22, 2016, 06:47:48 pm
there were a ton of the latest multiverse waves on the endcaps at two walmarts by me.getting ready for the Christmas rush.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 22, 2016, 09:01:03 pm
I still haven't found Jive Superman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on November 13, 2016, 10:02:59 pm
I got joker 2,boomerang and katana today at wally's now my croc is complete.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on November 26, 2016, 10:18:28 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=27741

Official pics.  Wave should show up in January. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 27, 2016, 04:32:17 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=27741

Official pics.  Wave should show up in January. 

First time I've ever wanted a BAF without wanting a single figure in the wave.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on November 27, 2016, 10:25:01 pm
DKR Joker is a must have.

I do like the Gordon/Batman and the Burnside Batgirl. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on November 28, 2016, 12:40:27 pm
I'd probably go with DCC Batgirl over Mattel Batgirl -- since the former comes with a bike -- albeit a higher asking price. So many Mattel's latest offerings look flat compared to the ones from DCUC.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on November 28, 2016, 03:08:16 pm
By splitting up the waves with comic/tv/DKR stuff they've effectively gotten me to give up on getting any of them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on November 28, 2016, 03:27:53 pm
By splitting up the waves with comic/tv/DKR stuff they've effectively gotten me to give up on getting any of them.

 [exactly]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on November 28, 2016, 04:24:21 pm
Still cherry picking.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on November 30, 2016, 04:49:53 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=27741

Official pics.  Wave should show up in January. 

Same with me. Gonna have to figure that one out.

First time I've ever wanted a BAF without wanting a single figure in the wave.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 21, 2016, 10:35:06 pm
Mattycollector has some stuff on sale essentially 60% off.  Free shipping with orders of $50.00 or more.  Hook Aquaman, Black Tee Conner Kent, Watchmen, Super Powers etc. are still available.  Ordered Superboy and Batzarro today.  The site shuts down 11:59 PST on 12/31/16.  I suppose whatever's left goes to Big Lots, Marshals, T.J. Max, etc.  Eventually. 

http://www.mattycollector.com/store/matty/en_US/DisplayCategoryProductListPage/ThemeID.1298800/categoryID.69395200


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 22, 2016, 12:43:41 am
They lost me when they wanted US$80 for 3-5 week international shipping for six figures. Particularly since their 3-5 week shipping tends to be 6-8 weeks. So, y'know, fuck them and thanks for everything.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 22, 2016, 07:41:52 am
That would kill it for me.  Better off on eBay or with stateside friends.

Also, IIRC from last year, the week between Christmas and New Year saw some new DC figures show up at retail.  That would be the first half of the King Shark wave.  I haven't heard what the first assortment will be.  The DKR Wal-Mart Wave showed up some places in January too.  This year it'll be the Wonder Woman exclusives.

Keep your eyes open.  ;D       



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on December 22, 2016, 11:57:09 pm
wave 5 of king shark is tv zoom,tv jay flash,batgirl and Gordon batman.you need wave 6 as well to complete KS.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 23, 2016, 07:33:28 am
Yeah.  I remember who was in the wave, I was speculating on the split.  Assuming these waves will come out in two parts like the other waves.  I just want Gordon, Burnside Batgirl, and DKR Joker.  Don't really care about King Shark.  I guess Damian will come out at Toys R Us at about the same time with the alternate Shark head.  I want Damian to. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 23, 2016, 07:46:58 am
And as of now, no one on Fwoosh or AFI has found any of this on eBay/Amazon.  But I'm still assuming the on sale date for the next wave is 1/1/17.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 23, 2016, 07:25:22 pm
wave 5 of king shark is tv zoom,tv jay flash,batgirl and Gordon batman.you need wave 6 as well to complete KS.

Bastards!!!!  >:(


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on December 24, 2016, 12:11:18 pm
The split-wave idea isn't doing them any favors.  ML at least gets you the whole wave at once.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 24, 2016, 12:54:53 pm
I don't get it either.  Is it lack of ready product in the pipeline, or that they want to help drive more traffic to various retailers?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on December 27, 2016, 10:40:58 pm
It may be that it keeps product waves "fresh" when they only do a few lines a year compared to ML.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 28, 2016, 07:28:24 am
Mattel did 43 DC figures this year including exclusives, variants, and C&C's.  However, only a dozen of those were comic accurate.  Basically two waves.  The rest were movie/TV figures.  In 2011 (the last full year of DCUC waves), they did five waves and a split wave of Batman Legacy figures for a total of 41 figures, again including variants, C&C's and a fair amount of repaints..  This was also the year of the Crime Syndicate and LSH sets.  And Swamp Things was the SDCC exclusive.  Clearly, they aren't remotely at capacity.  Particularly with Gentle Giant doing the movie/TV stuff. 

Split waves are not needed except to stretch out product releases.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 28, 2016, 07:36:08 am
This is why I still believe we'll see some changes to the DC license at Toy Fair.  Lots of missed opportunities.  The change has already started in some respects.  We know of nineteen figures for next year.  13.5 of them (King Shark alt head) are comic accurate.  Of course the rest is all Batman, Wonder Woman, and DKR, but it's a start anyway.

WB/DC/Mattel, would be stupid to bypass Rebirth.  Then again, I don't count them out.   [banghead] 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on December 28, 2016, 11:21:05 am
There is special display at the local Wally devoted to the new DC waves. It appears a bit lackluster and disjointed -- Carrie Kelly and Batman from Dark Knight Returns, TV Supergirl and some others. Will keep an eye on it to see how product gets moved -- especially in comparison to Marvel Legends.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 28, 2016, 02:29:33 pm
WB/DC/Mattel, would be stupid to bypass Rebirth.  Then again, I don't count them out.   [banghead] 

I'm with ya, GARD.  Not doing a REBIRTH line would be incredibly stupid, but I honestly don't think any of us views action figures the same way WARNER BROS does.  I have a stinking suspicion that TPTB may just not want to bother.  I don't think there will ever be an end to TV / MOVIE / VIDEO GAME figures, but that might be all they want to do.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on December 28, 2016, 04:10:51 pm
New 52itizing the line didn't work so well.  They may be gun-shy on comic based stuff due to that.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 28, 2016, 05:44:34 pm
Possibly.  But all in all, there were only about ten or so New 52 designs that made it into the line before it went under in 2014.  If I had to make a guess, it would be that they don't really want to deal with "adult collectors" and "comic fanboys" anymore. 

Anecdotally, I went into a Wal-Mart yesterday.  Resets have not begun.  The DC Multiverse pegs were picked almost clean.  Marvel Legends pegs were still pretty well stocked.  Remnants of Suicide Squad and DKR Wally exclusives were there.  On the Marvel side, I saw remnants of the most recent X-Men, Dr. Strange, and Captain America movie waves along with a few Hawkeyes and Machine Men.

Also anecdotally, my LCS owner recently bought a collection of DCUC.  Not a lot of figures, few complete waves, nothing particularly hard to find.  But he finally got 'em priced and hung up.  These figures `en masse, are colorful, striking figures compared to the somewhat drab Marvel Legends.  I remember now why I loved 'em and why I want to see them revived in some way.  Not a shared line with movie/TV figures.  I'm not asking for classics.  I am asking for comic accurate.   

       

 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on December 28, 2016, 06:49:54 pm
Marvel is a brand.

Superman is a brand, Batman is a brand, but DC is not a brand.  DC has failed miserably for over half a century to establish the DC brand.

Combine that with Mattel, a company that killed the DCUC line with their greed and corner cutting the same way they're now killing the WWE line (which seemed like an unstoppable juggernaut a year ago), and this is what you get.

Honestly, I think DCUC was a fluke.  I think it was one the of the best flukes ever for toy collectors, but I still think it was a fluke.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 28, 2016, 08:52:44 pm
I'm willing to go for Fluke II: The Revenge.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 29, 2016, 11:23:12 am
New 52itizing the line didn't work so well.  They may be gun-shy on comic based stuff due to that.

I thought the exact same thing myself.

Possibly.  But all in all, there were only about ten or so New 52 designs that made it into the line before it went under in 2014.

I see your point GARD, but again, I think WARNER BROS might have just lumped it all together, and theorized "Comic Accurate figures kill lines".  Is that wrong?  Yes.  Is it  twisted, knee jerk Logic?  Absolutely.  But again....this is WARNER BROS we're talking about.  Think about it: They pull the plug on DCUC because they hate the word CLASSICThen, they see NU designs failing, so they just pull the plug, slit the patients throat, and burn down the entire hospital.

Once you factor this in:
If I had to make a guess, it would be that they don't really want to deal with "adult collectors" and "comic fanboys" anymore.
It's not hard to imagine them saying "Screw this.  We're already making plenty of money....we don't need to deal with Nerd Rage.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 29, 2016, 12:38:31 pm
But it doesn't make sense.  SD/Mike has said sales were fine through 2010 and 2011.  I've no reason to doubt him.  Now the price point was lower back then too and that could be the difference.  But no corporation turns down money.  Of course profit margins could be down.  Production costs have undoubtedly gone up.  Sales projections based on retailer interest could be off too.  Any number of things really.  But there is still fan interest in "comic accurate".

Mattel needs to figure out a way to make money and WB/DC needs to get on board.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 29, 2016, 01:09:49 pm
That's the thing GARD, I agree with you a million percent!  It doesn't make sense in any kind of way!  My ramblings are just my dimwitted mind trying to dig some kind of logic out of something that makes absolutely no sense. 

And I always blame WARNER BROS, because as SD has said, it was them and not MATTEL that pulled the plug.  I just don't understand why.  Even if they despised the term CLASSICS, why pull the plug on something that's bringing in money??  Hell....they could have just changed the packaging and called them DC UNIVERSE CHARACTERS.

For some reason, they just don't seem to want to make certain types of action figures.  WARNER BROS are content to let HASBRO practically dominate department stores in that area.  Why!!???


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 29, 2016, 10:26:36 pm
Yeah, WB did pull the plug.  But did Dianne Nelson or Dan DiDio ask them to?  Get rid of the word "classic" so we can pump up New 52 in a new marketing campaign.  Which never went anywhere.  The "classic" sub failed.  Now the website where the sub existed ceases to be in about two days.  Superheroes should be at retail.   

And just an observation, but I can find plenty of Multiverse movie/TV figures.  But the only comic Multiverse figures I can find locally are the DKR figures.  That seems to have gone nowhere fast.  It does appear that people want figures compatible with DCSH/DCUC.  It's time for WB to reevaluate. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 29, 2016, 10:50:46 pm
It's time for WB to reevaluate.

I could not possibly agree more.  I say split the license....let MATTEL do a Comic Accurate line, and some other company can do the TV / MOVIE / VIDEO GAME versions.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 30, 2016, 03:40:47 am
Mattel picked up the DC license and the resultant product makes up a fraction of their sales. Are they losing money on it? Probably. Do they care? Probably not.

General Motors bought Hummer. Did they lose money on it? Probably. Do they care? Probably not. They write it off as a mistake and get back to their family sedans.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 30, 2016, 07:10:06 am
I'm not sure it's that simple.  In 2007 when Mattel got the full DC license, the rumor was that they'd paid 200M for it.  I'm not sure any company, no matter the size can take that kind of a hit and stay in business long.  Sure, the DC license is small potatoes compared to some of Mattel's other lines, but c'mom, 200M is still a sizable investment.  They've since renewed the license.  If it were going badly, I would think they'd have passed.  And IIRC, Mattel now holds one of the master licenses for all of WB.  This is a relationship that goes well beyond superhero action figures. 

Now I absolutely will not dispute that comic accurate six inch scale action figures is a fraction of a fraction of Mattel's revenue.  But Hasbro/Disney can make it work.  It's time Mattel/WB figured it out.         


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on December 30, 2016, 08:10:44 am

Honestly, I think DCUC was a fluke.  I think it was one the of the best flukes ever for toy collectors, but I still think it was a fluke.

I think it's early success ruined it. Instead of letting it go as it was -- people like Geoff Johns and other DC corporates stuck their big noses where they didn't belong. Why couldn't they just let the toy people select the characters to be made into toys. Their overthinking -- if you can call it that -- added unnecessary complications. Sometimes the people in charge of these decisions are ill-equipped to make them -- and that still seems true today.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 30, 2016, 11:07:38 am
Truth is, I do believe that lightning can strike twice.  But a balanced approach is needed.  There is a way to make fans and suits happy. 

Make figures compatible with what has come before.  DCSH and DCUC style.  Tweak for improvements.

A better female and teen female buck.

Stick with the heavy hitters.  Families and villains.  All good.  JLA, JSA, Titans, etc.  But let's not forget Infinity Inc. and Young Justice.

I understand MA is a necessity, but squeeze in classic wherever possible.  It would go a long way in terms of a good faith gesture.  Rebirth is of course the order of the day.

Buy some ad space in DC comics. 

And for god's sake stop letting Hasbro steamroll you.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 30, 2016, 11:44:36 am
I think it's early success ruined it. Instead of letting it go as it was -- people like Geoff Johns and other DC corporates stuck their big noses where they didn't belong. Why couldn't they just let the toy people select the characters to be made into toys. Their overthinking -- if you can call it that -- added unnecessary complications. Sometimes the people in charge of these decisions are ill-equipped to make them -- and that still seems true today.

I agree with this. 

And GARD?  Jesus....I wish it was you running a Comic Accurate line! Everything you say is sensible and logical.  I just wish TPTB at WARNER BROS had people that thought like you.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 30, 2016, 12:24:37 pm
Thanks man.  :)

And one more thing:

Themed waves are OK like DCUC wave 19 which was a JSA wave.  But story specific waves like the Deputy Lanterns and the current DKR figures pile up quickly on the pegs.  As much as I'd love a Kingdom Come wave, these figures would need to be seeded into other waves.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 30, 2016, 02:03:33 pm
I'm fine with Story Specific and Artist Specific stuff after and only after generic versions of the longest lasting costumes/looks have been made.  I know that's a Cherry Pie in the Sky point of view, but if I was in charge, that's how it would be.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 30, 2016, 02:56:55 pm
Artist specific doesn't seem to do all that well from Mattel.  When they deviate from "Horseman style" it seems to go sideways.  Young Justice, Public Enemies, Injustice, and the various Arkham game figures were never as popular as DCUC.  Even Kingdom Come figures would have to be Horseman style, not Ross style. 

Story specific is a little different (to me anyway).  As long as it's different and interesting.  I'm not gonna hold my breath, but I'd run a bus load of seniors on their way to Atlantic City off the road for a Flashpoint wave.  Or even a Tangent wave.  But it would all have to be 4H style.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 30, 2016, 04:01:25 pm
Truthfully, I would happily take HORSEMEN style for pretty much everything.  MARVEL, DC, INDIE....all of it.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 30, 2016, 05:35:24 pm
Now I absolutely will not dispute that comic accurate six inch scale action figures is a fraction of a fraction of Mattel's revenue.  But Hasbro/Disney can make it work.  It's time Mattel/WB figured it out.         

It's dead easy to make it work. There's no mystery to it.

Retail - Keep pumping out your movie, TV, Rebirth (SuperBatLanternWoman) themed waves as they're currently doing.
Subscription - If you really have any desire to cater to that minority that wants a Golden Age Mr Terrific for their DCUC collection then a sub is the way to go.

There's two problems with a sub concept:
1) Mattel needs to give a shit. It's such as microscopic part of the market, who at Mattel really wants this? Surely WB wouldn't care if this was a little side project for Mattel?
2) You need someone at Mattel with a clue. Scott gave it his best, but they need someone who knows their shit in terms of the characters/universe and how the collector market works. They need a Vonner.

There's no reason we couldn't still be getting a sub right now, what killed it is that bullshit about not being able to announce all the characters in the sub up front because they don't know yet due to how production works is a great big complete and utter fucking lie. Scott treated us like idiots with that fucking untruth and it's what killed things for him and the sub. They knew if they announced the full line-up up front they'd lose sales from collectors who might otherwise take a chance. Lying liar from Liarsville.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 30, 2016, 08:28:24 pm
Now I absolutely will not dispute that comic accurate six inch scale action figures is a fraction of a fraction of Mattel's revenue.  But Hasbro/Disney can make it work.  It's time Mattel/WB figured it out.         

Subscription - If you really have any desire to cater to that minority that wants a Golden Age Mr Terrific for their DCUC collection then a sub is the way to go.

There's two problems with a sub concept:
1) Mattel needs to give a shit. It's such as microscopic part of the market, who at Mattel really wants this? Surely WB wouldn't care if this was a little side project for Mattel?
2) You need someone at Mattel with a clue. Scott gave it his best, but they need someone who knows their shit in terms of the characters/universe and how the collector market works. They need a Vonner.

There's no reason we couldn't still be getting a sub right now, what killed it is that bullshit about not being able to announce all the characters in the sub up front because they don't know yet due to how production works is a great big complete and utter fucking lie. Scott treated us like idiots with that fucking untruth and it's what killed things for him and the sub. They knew if they announced the full line-up up front they'd lose sales from collectors who might otherwise take a chance. Lying liar from Liarsville.

I disagree.  The sub works for MotUC for a host of reasons that don't apply to DC and DC fans at all.  The upshot is that Masters fans would buy virtually anything.  And in a big way, Masters got a lot more attention due to the absence of any licensing fees.  They could do multiple heads, lots of accessories, etc.  I personally never believed the sub would work because DCUC fans were and still are cherry pickers.  Most of us were never completists.  I only bought waves when I wanted the C&C.  And that was less than half the time.  Thing is, we don't want to jump through hoops for figures that should be readily available at retail.  It's a moot point now as any outlet for another sub is shutting down in less than 48 hours.   

And yeah, good riddance to Scott.  But if Bill Benecke is still around, he could be Vonner.  As well as the 4H still working on the line.  My attitude is that if Hasbro can sell Thundra and Misty Knight, Batwoman, Spoiler and Orphan shouldn't be that difficult.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 30, 2016, 09:52:43 pm
FISH and GARD, you both make excellent points.  I get so frustrated thinking about this that after a while, I can't even make any sense out of it. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 30, 2016, 10:15:56 pm
It'll become clearer (or not) in about six weeks. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 31, 2016, 11:52:01 am
I know I'm living in somewhat of a fantasy world where Mattel can create a standalone comic accurate figure line.  The main evidence is the slow but steady creep of movie figures into Marvel Legends.  Hasbro/Marvel/Disney could quite easily spin off a full on movie accurate line if they wanted to.  It's just the world we now live in.  In fact, Mattel has gone past Hasbro in that regard with dedicated Batman v Superman, and Suicide Squad waves.  Still under the Multiverse banner though. 

As for getting more obscure characters now, I don't know if that's possible now.  Unless you do it under some umbrella team line.  A Justice League line could bring in a lot of interesting characters.  For instance, Andrew Bennett, Black Orchid, Frankenstein and many more could show up as a Justice League Dark wave.  Just trying to be imaginative.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 01, 2017, 12:52:24 am
GARD, as I've often said, I'm there till the loud, horrible, train wreck of a bitter end.  But I'm comfortable with that.  If DC/WARNER BROS and MARVEL/DISNEY decide to go full on TV / MOVIE / VIDEO GAME figures, then I am completely done.  I still have enough 'older' figures to keep me collecting before everything is scratched off of my Want List.  Then, there's still random HE-MAN figures, and a few INDIE things.  Who knows what else might debut?  I won't be done anytime soon.

Do I have every single Comic Accurate Superhero I want?  No.  But I do have a very nice collection, with a lot less holes in it than it had 5 or 10 years ago.  Basically, I still want more, but I could be very happy with what I have.  It's sort of like not getting to be a millionaire, but being the upper middle class that's right under that line.

And while 3D printing is in it's infancy now, we can only imagine how common that will be in the future.  We will probably be able to get a figurine printed of virtually any character we want, well past comic characters.  Real life people from history, novels, TV, movies, pulp paperbacks....anything.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 01, 2017, 08:52:02 am
I've made peace with the idea of being disappointed.  My collection is very specific.  And to get all of what I want done would be impossible from a manufacturing/retail POV.  Especially after 2011.  Even a 3D printer would be hard pressed.  I only collect six inch scale and comic accurate.  I don't collect Marvel (for now) and there is no Indie stuff to speak of at the moment.  That leaves DC.  And out of all the companies with a piece of the DC action figure license, the only one I actually like is Mattel.  With that as a starting point, I still cherry pick.  Certain niches I want to fill.  Certain characters that I like.  And that is the reason why I try to stay optimistic where DC/Mattel is concerned.  I'm not ready to be done.  And I won't be anytime soon.  So I'm in (for certain niches) until WB/DC/Mattel pulls the plug on anything comic accurate/six inch scale. 

A footnote:  Seeing some of the upcoming Marvel Legends, I may not be able to resist Vance Astro, which could open the door to other Marvel Sci Fi types.  My opinion is that some of Marvel's best characters/stories come out of the 70's period when genre books ruled.  Science fiction, supernatural/horror, and martial arts.  I might crap myself if Hasbro went all in for the 70's.  I've come pretty close to buying Iron Fist from the Dr. Strange wave a few times.  A proper Werewolf by Night might send me over the edge.         


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 01, 2017, 12:17:21 pm
My opinion is that some of Marvel's best characters/stories come out of the 70's period when genre books ruled.  Science fiction, supernatural/horror, and martial arts.  I might crap myself if Hasbro went all in for the 70's.  I've come pretty close to buying Iron Fist from the Dr. Strange wave a few times.  A proper Werewolf by Night might send me over the edge.

Can you imagine if they did FRANKENSTEIN, DRACULA, and WEREWOLF BY NIGHT again, only much better?  Technically, FRANKY is 8 feet tall so he should be much bigger, and IMHO, they should have done The LIVING MUMMY instead of The ZOMBIE.  I hate zombies with the searing heat of 1000 suns.  DRACULA definitely could have been made sturdier.

As far as more 70s goodness, we still need a SHANG-CHI, and I would definitely buy a KILLRAVEN.  Why not a FA FALCON?  They could do SWORDSMAN.  How easy would a SHROUD be?  PALADIN would be cool.


But my hopes for DC stuff dwindle a little more each day. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 01, 2017, 04:02:59 pm
While all that stuff would be cool, I'm pretty much talking Marvel's Monsters, Kung-Fu, and Science Fiction.  Can we get the Monsters you mentioned plus a Man-Thing update?  We got Misty Knight.  Where's Colleen Wing?  Sons of the Tiger?  White Tiger?  And the main man...Shang Chi?  How 'bout Omega the Unknown, more vintage GotG, FA Adam Warlock, High Evolutionary, Killraven,  FA Nova, updated Deathlok, and fuck it...the Eternals?



 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 01, 2017, 05:48:51 pm
While all that stuff would be cool, I'm pretty much talking Marvel's Monsters, Kung-Fu, and Science Fiction.  Can we get the Monsters you mentioned plus a Man-Thing update?  We got Misty Knight.  Where's Colleen Wing?  Sons of the Tiger?  White Tiger?  And the main man...Shang Chi?  How 'bout Omega the Unknown, more vintage GotG, FA Adam Warlock, High Evolutionary, Killraven,  FA Nova, updated Deathlok, and fuck it...the Eternals?
 

We're inching close and closer to some of those becoming reality. As long as the line stays successful -- I think we will continue to see a few classic figures every year. I'd take all of the above. High on my list is 70s Nighthawk to complete the core Defenders -- though neither of Valkyries done to date have really impressed me. Would be nice to see at least Ikaris, Thena and Sersi in a Thor or Avengers wave.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 01, 2017, 05:55:36 pm
Son of Satan?  Dunno how that happens.  But yeah, as long as movie figures don't takeover completely, we have a shot at some of that.

And if you don't think there's a huge movie in the Eternals, you are wrong.  Of course it would probably take 200M to make.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 01, 2017, 10:05:46 pm
In my perfect world, there's a HORSEMEN designed line encompassing both MARVEL and DC, with the following 2-packs:

-SON OF SATAN and MA BLUE DEVIL
-KILLRAVEN and WARLORD
-TWO GUN KID and BAT LASH
-SHANG-CHI and RICHARD DRAGON

Quiet guys!  Don't wake me up....this is a great dream!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 02, 2017, 05:52:16 pm
Now after all the Twitter stuff over the last couple of days, I feel a little better about our chances of some cool figures coming up this year.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on January 03, 2017, 09:00:57 pm
What Twitter stuff?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on January 03, 2017, 09:03:39 pm
I'm optimistic with the JLA movie coming out Mattel's got to come out with something heavy hitting.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on January 03, 2017, 09:10:57 pm
Can I just finally get my classic Kyle Rayner?

In a more realistic request, with Apokolips being part of the new movies, just praying for some classic Kirby Fourth World goodness (pun not intended for Granny Goodness, but I'll take it).


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 03, 2017, 09:24:22 pm
What Twitter stuff?

I was talking about Geoff Johns announcing that he's writing a new Watchmen title this year with Phil Jimenez possibly penciling.  And then talking about a new TV show in the works, possibly on a premium channel.  Makes me optimistic that they're working on some cool merch too.

And there was a little tidbit over on the Mattel Multiverse Facebook page about some new and classic figures in the works.  Posted by someone I presume to be a Mattel employee.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 03, 2017, 09:25:25 pm
In a more realistic request, with Apokolips being part of the new movies, just praying for some classic Kirby Fourth World goodness (pun not intended for Granny Goodness, but I'll take it).

I'm in.  Any Kirby, anytime. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on January 04, 2017, 11:00:25 pm
My two cents on a sub:

They were lying about not being able to announce all the figures in hopes of drawing as many people in as possible. That is also why the sub contained every era.

I think they would have had much more success narrowing the focus on the sub. Announce a Legion sub with all figures known.  A JLA villains sub. I would have been fine with them charging more to make up for losing the economies of scale.

Frankly it would have been cheaper (per figure) to pay more for each figure and not to have to pay for wasted slots like Batzarro


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 05, 2017, 09:23:47 am
The sub was ridiculous.  I know some people were willing to commit -- because it was that or nothing. But I think they would have done much better by revealing every character planned -- and maybe even having a couple of collector choices -- based on online voting. They couldn't even commit to generalities. I recall for the second sub a statement that there would be several female figures -- and there ended up being 2.

It that was the best they could do, it's better that it went away.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 05, 2017, 10:55:56 am
I'm optimistic with the JLA movie coming out Mattel's got to come out with something heavy hitting.

With a JL movie coming, MATTEL has to have something planned in addition to just Movie figures.  This is a HUGE moment in DC history, and if they blow this, it proves that either they do not care about Comic figures, or WARNER BROS won't allow them to make them.

And there was a little tidbit over on the Mattel Multiverse Facebook page about some new and classic figures in the works.  Posted by someone I presume to be a Mattel employee. 

Now that's interesting!  [think]  I wonder if they would appear in the Multiverse line, or a new line?

I think they would have had much more success narrowing the focus on the sub. Announce a Legion sub with all figures known.  A JLA villains sub.

I agree totally.  It was just too vague.  Without a focused direction, they could have put out 12 random characters that had absolutely no relation to each other at all, and most buyers didn't want to deal with that.  It's the same way most people wouldn't walk into a toy store and plunk down a hundred plus bucks for a blind box of any 12 figures.  How do you know what you're getting??


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 06, 2017, 08:48:54 am
Yep! They were relying of collectors loving/wanting anything that was owned by DC. That's not realistic. I think a Legion sub would have made a lot of sense -- so many characters -- and some collectors had no interest in Legion -- so they could opt out. Or they could do a different them each year --- Legion, Titans, JLA, villains, Golden Age, etc. Then they wouldn't have to reveal all the characters -- though, I still kinda think that is a sticking point with most collectors. I want to know what I'm committing to!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 06, 2017, 01:54:26 pm
Exactly right.  There a zillion directions they could have gone.  Hell....they probably could have did a LEGION Sub in addition to another Sub!  Or they could have made an all Villain Sub!  OK, maybe that's pushing it, but some kind of direction rather than NONE would have been better.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 06, 2017, 05:57:54 pm
I disagree.  The sub was never going to work long term.  Not like MotUC did.  There's too much DC product out there to jump through hoops and buy stuff blind.  MotU fans have no other options.  Sub or fuck off.  Pretty simple. 

A directed sub sounds good.  Until you get to the details.  I'm personally not gonna sub to a year of GLC.  By the same token, There's a lot of people who may not want an All Star Squadron sub.  Which I'd be all over like stink on a pig.  LSH would depend on whether I could find a 12-pack at a reasonable price.  There's a ton of ways to do it.  All of which would alienate some fans.  I would need Foley's internet face stabbing machine if they did a Super Powers sub.  Brown Grodd, blue faced Capt. Cold, Quadrex, Capt. El Reyo, etc.  How 'bout a heaping helping of fuck off.  MotUC fans were what's called a "captive audience".     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 06, 2017, 06:12:22 pm
Why would Warners/DC/Mattel care about action figures of classic and/or comic versions of characters not currently appearing in any cinematic/TV media? Long haired Hawaiian Aquaman is the brand now. No one at Warners gives two shits about how Nick Cardy drew the character.

Justice League will take $500 million at the box office. At $10 a ticket that's 50 million people in cinemas. How many of them are *real* fans of pre-2000 era comics?
The only people who want a 90s Damage or 40s Mr Terrific are a bunch of old fuddy-duddies on message boards.....most of whom don't even read new comics anymore.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 06, 2017, 07:27:21 pm
Why would Warners/DC/Mattel care about action figures of classic and/or comic versions of characters not currently appearing in any cinematic/TV media? Long haired Hawaiian Aquaman is the brand now. No one at Warners gives two shits about how Nick Cardy drew the character.

They have no reason whatsoever.  But I do still believe we'll get some Rebirth JL figures this year to go with the movie JL figures that are inevitable.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on January 08, 2017, 11:25:56 am
Why would Warners/DC/Mattel care about action figures of classic and/or comic versions of characters not currently appearing in any cinematic/TV media? Long haired Hawaiian Aquaman is the brand now. No one at Warners gives two shits about how Nick Cardy drew the character.

Justice League will take $500 million at the box office. At $10 a ticket that's 50 million people in cinemas. How many of them are *real* fans of pre-2000 era comics?
The only people who want a 90s Damage or 40s Mr Terrific are a bunch of old fuddy-duddies on message boards.....most of whom don't even read new comics anymore.

Yep, that's definitely how WB feels about classics. But what they have on the shelves now is only appealing to new collectors -- and product does not appear to be moving -- at all!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 08, 2017, 11:55:18 am
I still think there's a chance at comic accurate figures.  Realistically, probably not "classic" though. 

My thinking is that virtually everything can filter through an all encompassing Justice League line under the Multiverse umbrella.  Two Justice League movies on the way and at least one animated Justice League feature puts that particular franchise in the drivers seat.  With virtually all of DC's other feature films feeding into the JL movies, it's the move that makes the most sense.  To me anyway.  FWIW.

Think I'll start a new thread being that I'm snowed in and all.  ;D 

     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: SDcomics on January 10, 2017, 12:47:48 am
Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango? Thunderbolt and lightning, very, very fright'ning me!

No Waller, no Slipknot, no Enchantress.  But hey.  Beggars can't be chooser's or so I'm told.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5810%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5810%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5811%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5811%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5812%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5812%20Large.jpg.html) 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5813%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5813%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5814%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5814%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Superhero%20Movie%20Posters/Suicide%20Squad/th_suicide_squad_ver24_xlg.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Superhero%20Movie%20Posters/Suicide%20Squad/suicide_squad_ver24_xlg.jpg.html)

The heroes of the DCEU:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5815%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5815%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5816%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5816%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5818%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5818%20Large.jpg.html)

The villains of the DCEU:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5819%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5819%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5820%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5820%20Large.jpg.html)

The DCTV stars are waiting for their shot at the big screen:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5821%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5821%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5822%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5822%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5823%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5823%20Large.jpg.html)

Maybe someday we'll see a big screen/small screen crossover.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5824%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5824%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5825%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5825%20Large.jpg.html)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/SDcomics/Mattel/th_IMG_5826%20Large.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/SDcomics/media/Mattel/IMG_5826%20Large.jpg.html)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 10, 2017, 01:01:08 am
Cool pics SD!  [thumbs up]

They really are an underwhelming lot. The only one I want....the only toy Mattel has me interested in is Flagg. That's it.

Meanwhile ML keep pumping stuff out I want.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 10, 2017, 11:03:15 am
I think ML does a better job on face sculpts in general.  Mattel heads all seem to be blobbular/ill-defined - which I think really hurts a TV/Movie line.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 10, 2017, 02:45:53 pm
That's a whoooole bunch of plastic that I simply don't want.  :-\ 

Pretty great looking stuff, but as long as that's MATTEL's priority, I keep my money.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on January 23, 2017, 08:30:25 am
When is the Reaper and Dr. Psycho come out?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 23, 2017, 08:51:28 am
Reaper is in the next Multiverse wave with the C&C Bat-Bot.  The King Shark wave comes out first. 

Dr. Psycho is the mini C&C from the Wal-Mart Exclusive wave of Wonder Girl and DKIII Wonder Woman.  Supposed to be out Q1 of 2017.

This time last year, Multiverse wave 1 and the Wal-Mart DKR waves were all over eBay and Amazon.  And they were popping up at retail too.  So far this year, nothing.  Not even foreign sellers on eBay.  My guess is that there's an embargo for some reason until after NY Toy Fair. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on January 23, 2017, 11:23:26 am
Dr. Psycho only needs two figs to create?  (And I don't care about one of them.)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 23, 2017, 11:26:35 am
Far as I know, yeah.  Two figures.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on January 23, 2017, 07:45:03 pm
I thought it was three figures? Two would be great, since I actually want Wonder girl.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 23, 2017, 07:59:03 pm
If there's a third figure, it's unannounced so far.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on January 23, 2017, 08:17:19 pm
Would classic Silver Swan be too optimistic?  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 23, 2017, 08:40:35 pm
Ya never know.  I chose to be optimistic until I get swatted down.   :P  We did get a semi compatible Silver Banshee a while back.

For some insane reason, I think we'll be happy (for the most part) after NYTF 2017 in terms of DC/Mattel.  Just a good feeling.  Based on nothing whatsoever.   ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on January 26, 2017, 09:34:06 am
Just picked up Vol 4 of Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus. May become even more insufferable asking for more New Gods.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 26, 2017, 02:10:07 pm
Just picked up Vol 4 of Kirby's Fourth World Omnibus. May become even more insufferable asking for more New Gods.

Other than Granny Goodness is there anyone else to do that isn't 'C' or even 'D' list?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on January 26, 2017, 02:50:48 pm
Doesn't matter to me.  Kirby kharacters get bought. 

How cool would the Forever People be?  Or Kanto?  Or Vermin Vundabar?  Fastback?  Lonar?  I'm all in for Mr. Kirby.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 26, 2017, 04:43:11 pm
For some insane reason, I think we'll be happy (for the most part) after NYTF 2017 in terms of DC/Mattel.  Just a good feeling.  Based on nothing whatsoever.   ;D

It's a funny thing GARD....I don't feel as positive as you, but I'm glad you feel positive, I got your back, and I'm hoping for the best. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 06, 2017, 09:52:24 am
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=MAT16165&mode=retail

Official solicit for King Shark wave.  It boggles my mind that Jim Gordon Batman doesn't come in the wave where you build his armor.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 06, 2017, 10:50:59 am
Logistics.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 06, 2017, 07:26:05 pm
It appears the split wave horseshit is over.  Which may mean more distinctive waves.  The movie stuff is coming.  I still think we see some more Rebirth.  Probably a bunch at SDCC.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 07, 2017, 09:16:29 pm
It appears the split wave horseshit is over.

I'm cool with that.  Also, it seems like that would have to mean more diversity.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 07, 2017, 09:43:13 pm
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=MAT16165&mode=retail

Official solicit for King Shark wave.  It boggles my mind that Jim Gordon Batman doesn't come in the wave where you build his armor.

I'm uninterested in a single figure from that King Shark wave, but I want KS.

C'mon Hong Kong sellers then!!  [innocent]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 07, 2017, 10:05:57 pm
It's a funny thing.  I'm pretty much never interested in Movie and TV figures.  However, I would almost like an E2 FLASH figure, but I would rather it be a John Wesley Shipp version.

Oh well.  [whistle]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on February 08, 2017, 06:51:25 am
If (and that's a huge IF) I was going to get Burnside Batgirl, I'd go with the DCC version that comes with a cool purple bike.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 13, 2017, 04:30:11 pm
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/02/13/mattel-unveils-wonder-woman-figures-upcoming-film/

Scale unclear.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 19, 2017, 03:07:55 pm
Not overly impressed but not crushed either.

Can't link Toyark from my iPhone. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Jase on February 19, 2017, 03:19:45 pm


http://news.toyark.com/2017/02/19/toy-fair-2017-mattel-dc-entertainment-243831


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on February 19, 2017, 03:23:03 pm
Lame as usual.   Sigh


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 19, 2017, 03:26:55 pm
http://news.toyark.com/2017/02/19/toy-fair-2017-mattel-dc-entertainment-243831

Gah!  They could string together one good comic Bat-wave, but instead they divvy them up between TV figs I could give two shits about.  That'll make the CnCs tough.  If I see them in stores I'll likely get:

DC Multiverse
Batman (Rebirth)
Batman (Jim Gordon)
Batgirl (New 52)
Superman (Rebirth)
Batwoman
Jessica Cruz
Reaper
Batwing
Robin (New 52)


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on February 19, 2017, 03:36:28 pm
I can't say I can complain about the direction they are headed, but for me its a big pile of meh.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 19, 2017, 03:41:35 pm
Looks like that's a Rebirth Two-Face.  I might get him as well.


Looking at the two new waves, they're only one TV fig per wave.  I'll probably bite the bullet to get the CnC.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 19, 2017, 04:39:43 pm
Tried to stay positive but this is about what I expected.  Very Bat heavy.  Token Superman and Green Lantern.  I'm in the "better than nothing" camp.  For the new stuff, I'm in for...

Duke/Robin
Superman  (expected)
Batwoman  (long time coming)
Jessica Cruz  (not a shock)

Maybe Clayface and Two-Face.

I bet we see Orphan, Red Robin, Spoiler, and maybe Gotham Girl and a new Azrael at SDCC. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Titansfan on February 19, 2017, 05:05:52 pm
I think  it's time for me to just concentrate on customs.  Retail is completely dead for me.  After Reaper and Dr. Psycho there's nothing at all I want.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 19, 2017, 05:17:25 pm
Well, I'm done.  :P 

KID FLASH leads REBIRTH, and we get TV KID FLASH??  DC is now 90% Movie-TV-Video Game.  The remainder will be Comic Accurate SUPERBAT with a little GREEN LANTERN and WONDER WOMAN mixed in.  Nothing at all that I want.


As I've often said, I still have a few older DC figures to buy.  It's been real.   [violin]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 19, 2017, 06:11:22 pm
I'm not seeing this as a lose event.  Am I an apologist for Mattel?  Probably a little.  History may vindicate or indict me.  Dunno.  But for what we currently know for this year isn't horrible in the least just looking at comic accurate figures:

Jim Gordon Batman
Burnside Batgirl
DKR Joker
King Shark C&C w/alt head from TrU Damian/Robin.
Rebirth Batman
Batwing
Reaper
Finch Wonder Woman (seems to be in question now)
Duke/Robin
Rookie/Bat-Bot C&C
TrU Damian/Robin
Walgreens DKIII Flash w/Atom pack in
Wal-Mart DKIII Wonder Woman
Wal-Mart Wonder Girl (Cassie)
Dr. Psycho C&C
Rebirth Superman
Batwoman
Jessica Cruz GL
Two Face
Clayface C&C

It's certainly not classic, but neither is it terrible.  Add in the four Super Friends and it's way more figures than movie/TV combined.  And I gotta admit, I don't mind buying Batman family figures.  Batwoman is spectacular.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 19, 2017, 06:45:16 pm
I see your point, GARD.  Truthfully, I'm not angry.  These are just the times we live in.  The days of C and D List characters are long gone, and now, the days of non BIG SEVEN characters are gone.  It kind of sucks, but that's just how it is, and there's no going back.

Like I said on another thread, I look forward to a future of fairly-easy-to-get 3D printed figures.



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 19, 2017, 08:03:24 pm
You had my hopes up for a Rebirth renaissance.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Boy Wonder on February 19, 2017, 08:18:18 pm
Reaper and probably Clayface for me.

But that Superman head is pretty great. I might have to get him just to put that head on a regular Superman.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 19, 2017, 08:30:18 pm
You had my hopes up for a Rebirth renaissance.

Me too.  The optimist was hopeful.  The realist got what he expected. 

But the trend of comic accurate is heading in the right direction.  A five figure movie wave along with two new TV figure isn't what we expected either.  I see this slowly going the right way.  Mattel is being cautious.  Plus SDCC is always a bigger deal.  That will be the real test.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 19, 2017, 09:44:26 pm
Just did a quick count. 

80 total Multiverse figures.

34 movie

9 TV

37 comic.  We ain't doin too bad all in all.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: zeekzin on February 20, 2017, 01:11:10 am
Just did a quick count. 

80 total Multiverse figures.

34 movie

9 TV

37 comic.  We ain't doin too bad all in all.

I agree, it's just that he selection isn't what I want. I'm finding it hard to complain though. I'm at the point where I'm grateful to know there's even a chance of getting a couple of figures I want each year.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 20, 2017, 07:15:53 am
Selection isn't what I want either.  I would prefer a wider variety of characters to pick from.  Oh but to just finish my JSA.  But at some level, this is DC's rally point.  Notice I did not say Mattel.  DC is feeding this lineup to Mattel.  Almost no doubt.  DC is digging in behind their big gun characters which isn't surprising.  It's actually a terrific time to be a Bat-fan.  They've made Burnside Batgirl, Gordon/Batman, Duke, Batwoman, and Batwing.  Do you really think they'll leave us hanging for Orphan, Spoiler, Red Robin, and Red Hood?  Red Hood and the Outlaws has become one of my favorite Rebirth books and Red Hood is one of my most wanted figures at the moment.  Gotta come with two heads.  Two Face is OK, but the more I look at him, Clayface is pretty fucking amazing.  Way better than that gooey hunk of animated crap they first released in 2007.

SDCC which is a far more fan friendly environment may just shock us.  The Justice League movie figures will be shown.  I'd say we see some Justice League comic figures to go with it.  A new Cyborg would be awesome.     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on February 20, 2017, 10:59:14 am
Could be worse, I guess -- but I'm with Chooch -- the waves are too all-over-the-place to have appeal (don't see these doing gangbusters at retail).

Reaper would be an okay figure in a wave with some other good figures, but with only Batwoman being a must have, I will pass on Reaper.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on February 20, 2017, 12:30:40 pm
I think SDCC has the odd chance of being movie-centric just due to the timing of the Justice League movie.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 20, 2017, 06:37:59 pm
Probably.  But the chance for comic figures is there too.  Jessica Cruz shows that.  I could also see a mirror assortment of comic/movie figures.  The lineups are almost matching.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on February 26, 2017, 09:07:30 am
Multiverse is hitting Wal-Mart, east coast and midwest.  Keep your eyes open people.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on March 01, 2017, 09:21:35 pm
So what's in that wave?

I just mentioned in the ML thread that the wave released late last year is not moving at my Walmart -- and has been reduced to $16 and something. I doubt that price point will be enough to move those figures. That wave is kinda hodge podge -- and even the packaging does not impress. Mattel just can't seem to do anything right by DC.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on March 01, 2017, 09:55:47 pm
I don't expect to find the next wave at Walmart.maybe at target or walgreens.or either at TRU whose multiverse showing has been spotty through 2016.And there's still the wave of suicide squad figures which really hasn't hit big yet.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on March 02, 2017, 09:48:11 am
My Target just stocked the wave with Superman: Doomed.  Those pegs will be full for awhile.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on March 07, 2017, 04:00:28 pm
Found the King Shark wave minus Batgirl at a Toys R Us in Newport News VA.  No Damian yet.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on March 08, 2017, 07:28:26 pm
I found and bought the entire wave this morning at TRU  ;D


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 07, 2017, 08:50:04 pm
Seen the Wonder Woman movie Multiverse figures twice.  Both times at Toys R Us.  Minus Hippolyta.     

There's also a bunch 12" (non Barbie) stuff at Wal-Mart. 

Still no King Shark wave locally except for the one time I saw them in Toys R Us.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on April 13, 2017, 06:28:44 pm
I got the four WW movie figure wave at TRU today.(well,some buttpitt stole the CNC pieces,except for the steve trevor figure.Frag.didn't realize it after the purchase,and even the saleslady said if I wanted to go get another one she noticed the package to Hippolyta was ripped.I just said no,i open them anyway  [cursing])


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 13, 2017, 09:18:57 pm
I don't go in for the Hong Kong knock off figures.....but if, y'know, they could see to it that they do King Shark I'd be might grateful.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Scotty on April 13, 2017, 09:23:30 pm
I got the four WW movie figure wave at TRU today.(well,some buttpitt stole the CNC pieces,except for the steve trevor figure.Frag.didn't realize it after the purchase,and even the saleslady said if I wanted to go get another one she noticed the package to Hippolyta was ripped.I just said no,i open them anyway  [cursing])

Wow. So are you taking them back?


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on April 13, 2017, 10:04:37 pm
I don't know,this TRU is 15 miles away,it's not a must have CNC,and I don't want to be looked at as the one who stole the accessories.The guy was crafty,he carefully opened the right bottom part of the package,where the pieces could come out and close it again.Im almost thinking it was done by an employee cause how could someone do this to 3 figures and not be noticed by someone in whatever time it took why I think it was done maybe in the back room.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on April 14, 2017, 12:59:52 am
....this is why we're starting to see figures behind glass and you have to ask to purchase them.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 14, 2017, 03:12:37 pm
Found B/S Batgirl at Target in VA Beach today.  Nearly a month and a half after finding DKR Joker and Gordon Batman at Toys R Us. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on April 28, 2017, 02:12:55 pm
the next multiverse wave/batman wave is up for preorder at bbts.rebirth batman,duke robin?(I'm unsure what his name is),reaper,tv atom and batwing.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 28, 2017, 03:22:48 pm
The Finch Wonder Woman has disappeared.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 28, 2017, 03:39:10 pm
We sure aren't seeing much 'branching out'.  :P


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 28, 2017, 04:38:50 pm
This is a difficult situation.  Mattel needs to make money, but they have to do it within the limits WB sets for them.  If WB wants the big 2, 3, 5, or 7, that's what they are going to get.  If WB wants Mattel to shift from Rebirth to Dark Matter, that's what will happen.  It's frustrating but to be honest, I'm kinda looking forward to the Rookie wave.  I want Batwing, Duke, and Rebirth Batman.  I'm having fun building out these families.       


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 28, 2017, 05:53:50 pm
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=MAT16196&mode=retail

Out in June.  Allegedly. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 28, 2017, 06:20:36 pm
At this point, I'm totally fine with WARNER BROS going with All-BAT-All-The-Time.  It obviously sells.  No more B and C List characters?  Whatever.  MARVEL LEGENDS makes plenty of them. 

I just want some other company to make some kind of figures I am interested in, be they SCI-FI, FANTASY, or whatever. 



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 28, 2017, 06:48:16 pm
It's kinda hard to do that without some kind of media attached to a property.  Long gone are the days when a toy company could just make up their own stuff and sell it.  Like Marx back in the day.  Cowboys, Vikings, Knights, etc.  I had a bunch of that stuff.  Major Matt Mason never had a cartoon.  Neither did the Outer Space Men.  All of that is done.  Comes down to marketing yet again. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 28, 2017, 06:56:23 pm
And I haven't given up on Multiverse yet, although I have to admit it's not looking good right now.   But anything can happen.  Geoff Johns has a bit more pull these days being that he is a co-President of DC Entertainment.  If he wants some characters made into action figures, one would assume he can call or meet with the folks at Warner Brothers Consumer Products and plead his case.  Johns hasn't talked about it much lately, but he is a big action figure guy.  In a position of great power.  I certainly don't believe he controls WBCP but he can make a pitch to them if he wants to.  Someone at Mattel would have to run with it after that.       


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 29, 2017, 12:51:28 am
You have to admit that it's kind of weird.  All the movies on the horizon, several successful DC TV shows with more on the way, yet WARNER BROS is now streamlining. 

I don't know....maybe people are interested in characters other than BATMAN as far as buying comics goes, but the toys just don't sell.  Or WARNER BROS thinks they don't sell enough.  Maybe I'm wrong and they have something huge planned for the future.  Like we always say....they have an entirely different way of marketing than MARVEL/DISNEY does.



I loved Johnny West as a kid. :)



Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 29, 2017, 04:17:41 pm
I really don't understand why WARNER BROS doesn't just do an All MODERN BAT line.  They could milk the hell out of that till God dies of old age.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 29, 2017, 06:22:10 pm
At some level, Mattel knows they're leaving money on the table by not having a line that goes wider and deeper into the DCU.  But that is not their call entirely.  WB interferes a fair amount.  I just don't wanna give Mattel too much credit. 

And I think that is one of the goals of the Multiverse line...to make a very complete modern day Bat Family.  Modern being defined as Flashpoint forward.  Giving me hope for an eventual Thomas Wayne Batman from Flashpoint.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 29, 2017, 10:45:31 pm
Here's my thinking at the moment:

First Multiverse wave started coming out in Feb.  Next wave is scheduled for June.  That potentially means the Clayface wave could come early Fall.  Leaving room for one more wave for 2017 to be announced at SDCC, and to ship around Christmas.  This wave will be comic accurate Justice League wave to ship roughly around the time of the movie.  And to complement what may be two waves of Movie Master Multiverse Justice League figures.  I for one, definitely want a MA Cyborg figure.  I'm guessing 100% new tool.  Or close.       


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 29, 2017, 11:45:55 pm
At some level, Mattel knows they're leaving money on the table by not having a line that goes wider and deeper into the DCU.  But that is not their call entirely.  WB interferes a fair amount.

Oh, I blame WARNER BROS 100% because in the end, they are the true bosses.  And this is definitely a Modern BAT lovers dream.  They are gonna get every single BAT character because nobody else will be getting made!  Haha!

I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but it actually makes me long for the days of DC DIRECT!!   At least with them, you know we'd get at least 3 REBIRTH waves, and I have no doubt that KID FLASH Barry Allen would have been one of the figures.

It just amazes me that DC has a Universe filled with literally hundreds of colorful, super powered characters of all varieties and styles, and yet the focal point is a small group of dark garbed individuals with no powers.  It's kind of ironic.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on April 30, 2017, 09:39:21 am
As I've said ad nauseam, back to the basics for the Multiverse line (JLA, JSA, Titans, GLC, LSH), would satisfy probably 90% of DCUC fans.  Thing is, it would have to be an omnibus view of these various teams, not just the most recent versions.  I think that's where it gets stuck.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on April 30, 2017, 03:37:35 pm
....back to the basics for the Multiverse line (JLA, JSA, Titans, GLC, LSH), would satisfy probably 90% of DCUC fans.  Thing is, it would have to be an omnibus view of these various teams, not just the most recent versions.

If we're lucky, that's exactly what we would get.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 01, 2017, 07:26:24 am
Yep.  Very lucky.  I'd also drop the New Gods into that.  Young Justice too.  Maybe Infinity Inc. as a JSA spinoff team. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 01, 2017, 01:08:32 pm
Cool ideas. [thumbs up]

Again, I know I talk a lot of crap, and I do get that BATMAN is uber popular.  But at this point, WARNER BROS is beyond SUPERBAT and just pushing BAT BAT.  If that's truly how they feel, then why bother with the CW shows and with other non-BAT related movies?  Why not just do 2 or 3 BAT related movies a year and let it at that?

They could go all in and just do movies with BATMAN, BATGIRL, NIGHTWING, and maybe BATWOMAN.  Then do a big movie with all of them teaming up.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 02, 2017, 07:49:14 am
I haven't been reading all of the Rebirth stuff.  But I do get a pretty good chunk of it.  And over the last year, the creative teams on the SuperBat books have been strongly emphasizing "family".  For instance, Batman made peace with both Dick and Jason early on.  He formed the team in Detective Comics and put Batwoman (his cousin) in charge.  There was a great scene in Batman a few months back where all of Bruce's "sons" were together in a rare meeting in a public place.  Dick, Jason, Damian, and Duke were all there.  In the Superman books, much of the time has been spent with Lois and Jon.  That's changing to include Supergirl, Superwoman, Steele, and even Lex as the Superman family.  Clark has a vague sense that someone (Conner) is missing.  Even Cyborg Superman and the Eradicator are around.  This has certainly made the SuperBat books fun for me.

My point is that Mattel may eventually explore this path.  Maybe WB as well in the films.       


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 02, 2017, 06:04:21 pm
It's never gonna happen, but I wish that if they were going All-BAT-All-The-Time, we could also get these waves:

-80s ROBIN Jason Todd
-Disco NIGHTWING
-Mullet NIGHTWING

-Fishbowl Head MR. FREEZE
-BA TWO-FACE in orange and purple suit
-BA SCARECROW ( creepy facemask with no eye holes )

-Dick Grayson KNIGHTFALL BATMAN on slimmer buck w/ alternate unmasked Head
-90s ROBIN
-BA CATWOMAN ( purple dress w/ calf high boots )

-CROC ( original, more human version )
-BA CAT MAN ( yellow & orange )
-BLACK SPIDER

But nobody wants any of that to happen....not WARNER BROS, not fans....just me. [banghead]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Xavion on May 02, 2017, 08:24:30 pm
I really haven't been paying much attention, so I'm sure this has already been discussed, but what happened to Cassie (Wonder Girl)?  That would have been my first Multiverse purchase.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 02, 2017, 08:49:35 pm
Not out yet.  May still be on the water.  Hasn't popped on eBay or Amazon yet.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 03, 2017, 07:33:13 am
It's never gonna happen, but I wish that if they were going All-BAT-All-The-Time, we could also get these waves:

-80s ROBIN Jason Todd
-Disco NIGHTWING
-Mullet NIGHTWING

-Fishbowl Head MR. FREEZE
-BA TWO-FACE in orange and purple suit
-BA SCARECROW ( creepy facemask with no eye holes )

-Dick Grayson KNIGHTFALL BATMAN on slimmer buck w/ alternate unmasked Head
-90s ROBIN
-BA CATWOMAN ( purple dress w/ calf high boots )

-CROC ( original, more human version )
-BA CAT MAN ( yellow & orange )
-BLACK SPIDER

But nobody wants any of that to happen....not WARNER BROS, not fans....just me. [banghead]

All Bat all the time could work.  But they'd have to be wide open about the lineup.  1939-Rebirth/Dark Matter.  All Bat versions/time periods, all Bat villains, all Bat allies, all alt Bat versions (Elseworld/Multiverse), etc.  And that's just the comics.  Add up all the other stuff and it's a true metric guano ton of Bat stuff.  But I would advocate a second line to do movies, TV, digital, animated, and game figures. 

But there could still be a slick way to get other (comic related) stuff out of it too.  All teams Batman has been a member of (JSA, JLA, Outsiders), plus the teams his progeny have been a part of (Titans, Young Justice, Birds of Prey, Outlaws, etc.).  When you come right down to it, Batman and his kin touch a huge chunk of the DCU all by themselves.  However unlikely, this would leave the door wide open for a lot of off the wall stuff like Earth 2 Robin, Flashpoint Batman, SA Batwoman, as well as a 70's (fro) Black Lightning, Halo, Katana, and all the missing JSA members from the GA.  And I'm not sure who else would buy it, but I'd love a New 52 Earth 2: Society team.  There's three different Batmen who were members of that crew.  Plus Huntress. 

So yeah, I could get behind all Bat all the time.   ;D   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on May 03, 2017, 08:28:02 am
Not to mention all the characters from Brave & the Bold that teamed with Batman -- in the comic and on the TV show.

Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 03, 2017, 11:03:39 am
Not to mention all the characters from Brave & the Bold that teamed with Batman -- in the comic and on the TV show.

I remember joking about something like that years ago.  I said that you could pretty much release any character....just have he or she be in a 2 pack with BATMAN.  Just throw in some artwork on the card of BATS either fighting, or teaming up with said character.

Granted....that leaves you with hundreds of extra BATMAN figures. [crazy]

But back to my point....I think the days of seeing anything pre-2000 are pretty much done.  Even the majority of BAT stuff is Modern.  Something is going to have to change drastically for us to get any kind of true variety considering that the DC Universe is decades and decades old.  I know I'm beating a dead horse, but to me, that BAT Heavy Multiverse wave all but cut off the rest of the DC Universe.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 03, 2017, 11:15:04 am
To continue beating, we now have WILD DOG, KILLER FROST, VIBE, MON-EL, ARSENAL, MERLYN, COUNT VERTIGO, WEATHER WIZARD, The TOP, GYPSY, and many others who have made TV appearances, but have no comic figures.  Think about those characters.  Go back 10 years, and the mere idea of them being on a live action TV show would have been laughable.

Maybe none of those characters would sell nowadays.  And I admit that I was very spoiled by DCUC.  I'm just saying it's aggravating that there's so much media exposure to non SUPERBAT characters, but they might as well not exist.

I have no problem with them wanting to milk the BAT cow.  Make as many BATMANs as you want, but just don't forget that there are a few other characters that exist in the DC Universe, too.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 03, 2017, 12:53:51 pm
Plus 1 kcekada.  Forgot B&B completely.

As with everything with me unless stated otherwise, I am talking comic accurate omnibus Bat line.  This would not include comic adaptations from other media.  Batman can get us halfway through the DCU.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on May 03, 2017, 08:39:10 pm
two additional WW movie figures tru exclusives with added Ares weapons  http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=28845


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on May 03, 2017, 08:42:11 pm
and if you think there are too many bat figures now his 80th anniversary is in 2019.next year is supes' 80th but doubt anything major will be made about it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 04, 2017, 12:24:32 am
and if you think there are too many bat figures now his 80th anniversary is in 2019.

Holy Perfect Opportunity, BATMAN! 

Maybe WARNER BROS should split the license with HASBRO, and let HASBRO do all things non-BAT.  I'll bet they wouldn't mind doing B, C, and D list characters.  Just kidding, of course. ( But maybe BANDAI would be interested... )

I will say this much: If WB is cool with this much BAT stuff now, then in 2019, there should not be a single BAT related character left untouched.  If they're gonna go all out, then really GO ALL OUT!!


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 04, 2017, 03:15:13 am

Maybe WARNER BROS should split the license with HASBRO, and let HASBRO do all things non-BAT.  I'll bet they wouldn't mind doing B, C, and D list characters.  Just kidding, of course. ( But maybe BANDAI would be interested... )


I don't think that's such a bad idea. They've obviously got a good model set-up for 6" action figure production.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 04, 2017, 02:17:55 pm
Thanks, FISH. ;)

Pretending that it could happen, I'd have no issue with BANDAI being 'limited' to any Comic Accurate versions up to 2000.

I'm not expecting to collect dozens more DC figures.  Those days are long gone.  But for Chrissakes it would be nice to have at least a few figures a year to look forward to.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 04, 2017, 06:43:41 pm
I've contemplated this and in my mind, there's only one way to split the license.  Since Mattel holds the master license and will for the foreseeable future, they would keep what I presume got them to pay for the license in the first place...major media.  And it's not just for DC.  Mattel has an ongoing and deep relationship with WB that goes back a long time.  Mattel would retain the rights to all movie, TV, animated, digital, and gaming character/looks.  Throw in miscellaneous media as well.  Every platform but print.  That would also include comics based on these other media as well.  Say Young Justice blows the doors off next year on the DC streaming service.  Mattel could make figures off both the cartoon and the Young Justice comics DC produced based on the cartoon.  The original Young Justice comic featuring Conner, Tim and Bart would not be a part of that, and thus, the split.

Whoever takes over the other half would have the rights to all DC comic accurate characters no matter the source as long as DC owns the character outright.  No creator owned or licensed product.  No Astro City or Fables.  No T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents or Peter Cannon.  No Red Circle/Archie.  No Milestone.  But everything else from 1934 to now would be on the table.  Including Slash Maraud, Camelot 3000, Outcasts, Iron Wolf, and any other oddball stuff you can think of.  Because now, by virtue of the Watchmen entering the DCU, it all fits.  This would also include Wildstorm and any DC/Vertigo. 

But no starting over.  It would have to be done the way Hasbro took over from Marvel Toys.  The figures still have to look like they fit together.  Make improvements.  Tweak sculpts.  Do whatever.  But as you can see the evolution from the first wave of Spider-Man Classics from back in 2000 up to the most recent Marvel Legends waves, it all has to hold together.  And it has to be a retail line.  It's pretty obvious that the subscription model and online store, as a concept and in practice, don't work for DC characters.

This is the solution to our quandary that we'll never see since Mattel will never give up Batman and whoever would takeover the sub license wouldn't do it without Batman included.   [slapfight]           


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 04, 2017, 09:25:22 pm
This is the solution to our quandary that we'll never see since Mattel will never give up Batman and whoever would takeover the sub license wouldn't do it without Batman included.

And there you have it.  [banghead]

But if it could be worked out, I would suggest something like this:

-BANDAI: All Comic Book rights to the BATverse up to the year 1999.

-WARNER BROS/MATTEL: All Comic Book BATverse stuff post 2000.

To me, that leaves plenty of meat on the DC bone for both to thrive.  And I agree....the stuff would need to fit in seamlessly.  I suppose there would be 2 different types of packaging, but who gives a crap?  It would be the best of both worlds:  Evergreen BAT, plus the rest of the DCU.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 04, 2017, 10:28:41 pm
I think it would have to be all or nothing.  I thought about doing it by date or time period and it just doesn't work out.  1999 sounds like a good place to cut, but it's probably not.  For most folks in our generation, the DCU starts with CoIE #1 and ends with Flashpoint #5.  It is an era unto itself.  1985-2011.  Making that cut in 1999/2000 splits the DCU at a pretty awkward point.  2011 and Flashpoint/New 52 makes more sense as a cut point.  And even then, Batman and Green Lantern kinda fuck it up. 

Removing Batman from the equation is an even tougher call.  How do you build the JLA without Batman?  How do you build the Teen Titans without Robin?  How do you build the Birds of Prey with only the Black Canary?  You don't.  You can't really.  The best option IMHO is to spin the entire comic accurate part of the DC license off to someone who is interested and capable of doing them justice and giving them the attention they deserve.  And what we comic fans deserve.  Rant over.         


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 05, 2017, 07:39:22 am
To me, the obvious, best solution is for Mattel to go back to a separate comic based line like DCUC.  But if the word "Classic" is objectionable, call it something else.  1934-2017 and call in DC Universe Legends.  I don't really care.  I just don't wanna buy movie and TV figures. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 05, 2017, 10:54:26 am
 Yeah, you're right GARD.  No company would want DC rights sans BATMAN, and a split would probably have 10,000 miles of red tape.  It's just too much trouble.  Plus, WARNER BROS proved that they don't have much interest in the rest of the DC Universe when they put a premature end to a line that was selling just fine. 

To me, the obvious, best solution is for Mattel to go back to a separate comic based line like DCUC.  But if the word "Classic" is objectionable, call it something else.  1934-2017 and call in DC Universe Legends.  I don't really care.  I just don't wanna buy movie and TV figures. 

Same here, GARD.  That's my beef.  I don't care if they put out an ALL BAT wave every month from now till the end of time....I just want some other stuff.  I love variety.  I know the days of C and D Listers are over ( for DC anyway ), but there's more to the DCU than SUPERBAT, Movies, and TV.

Looking back, it's funny to think that DCD started out without the rights to SUPERBAT.  At a time with no movies or TV shows, WARNER BROS struck out with their own direct-to-consumer action figure line without the 2 Heaviest Hitters.  Amazing.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 05, 2017, 05:04:03 pm
Looking back, it's funny to think that DCD started out without the rights to SUPERBAT.  At a time with no movies or TV shows, WARNER BROS struck out with their own direct-to-consumer action figure line without the 2 Heaviest Hitters.  Amazing.

We should all thank Todd McFarlane then.  In 1994 he started making Spawn toys based off the Spawn comic in six inch scale.  Selling straight to collectors in big box brick and mortar stores.  And comic shops too.  He put out around 40 waves altogether.  DCD wanted a piece of the action and in 1999 put out their first DCU superhero figures.  A year later, Marvel Toys put out a couple of waves of Spider-Man Classics which led directly into Marvel Legends in 2002.  MLs has been around in some form since 2000.  Shit I'm old.

And jealous as fuck too.  If there were a comparable DC line, just think of what we might have after nearly 20 years like the Marvel guys.  DCD/DCC doesn't count due to all the scale/style issues and a huge number of movie, TV, animated, and game related figures in the line.  If only...


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 05, 2017, 07:04:51 pm
He put out around 40 waves altogether.... Shit I'm old.

I had no idea there were that many SPAWN waves!!  And I just turned 47, so don't feel bad.

And jealous as fuck too.  If there were a comparable DC line, just think of what we might have after nearly 20 years like the Marvel guys.  DCD/DCC doesn't count due to all the scale/style issues and a huge number of movie, TV, animated, and game related figures in the line.  If only...

I'm right there with ya.  I hated seeing INFINITE HEROES die.  Most people didn't like that line, but I loved the simple, uniform style and fact that they could pump out characters very fast.  If that had lasted even 5 years, we could have had hundreds of characters.  Sigh....

There's just something about DC....it just seems they are ALWAYS meant to play 2nd fiddle to MARVEL, even though they are 20+ years older.  Less monthly comic sales, less fans, less box office hits, less toy selection, less advertising.  What the fuck??


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 05, 2017, 09:38:42 pm
All I know is that I know nothing.  DC Comics is trying very hard to win back old readers and draw in new ones.  By and large, Rebirth has been very good.  Dark Matter looks like it could be great.  Young Animals has been interesting.  Hanna Barbera looks like fun.  Wildstorm is some crazy shit.  Good kinda crazy.  And I've been reading all afternoon about DC restructuring it's editorial dept.  A healthy rivalry seems to have developed between Johns and DiDio bringing about stuff like Dark Matter in the first place.  DC is getting (and now keeping) big name talent (both writers and artists).  I feel good about DC Comics for the first time in a while.  JSA, LSH, and more are waiting in the wings.  I'm really looking forward to the next year or so.   

On TV, they're killing it.  Not so much in the movies, but I hear that Wonder Woman is very good.  Whether that's truth or spin, we'll know in about a month.  A dedicated DC streaming service is genius.  I've heard that a lot of their animated releases are very good like Justice League Dark.  And I've seen several on HBO/Cinemax OnDemand (WB subsidiaries).  The only game that interests me is Injustice and I've never played.

Which brings us to merchandise.  By definition, action figures for the purposes of our discussion.  First of all, Geoff Johns, one of DC Entertainment's co-Presidents is an avid action figure collector.  I know he has no day to day oversight of it, but my guess is that he's at least aware of what's going on.  The last year and a half of DCUC was pretty much based around books he wrote.  I also know that the 4H, if they are still involved with Mattel, are also big DC comic fans.  And although Scott Neitlich is gone, there are still people at Mattel who love DC Comics too.  Hopefully some of them are still working on the DC license and know that we comic accurate fans are still here and relevant.  The execs at Mattel, whether they know or care about DC Comics or not have to know that their biggest rivals are crushing it on the boys toys aisle with a primarily comic accurate line of action figures that goes deep and wide into the Marvel Universe.  If they don't know that, Mattel is truly fucked. 

SDCC is two and a half months out.  It just feels like it's time for a change for DC/Mattel.  It's time for Mattel to blow the roof off the place again like they did in 2008-2010.  I remain hopeful.  Because I choose to remain hopeful. 

EDIT:  I'm really not a Pollyanna.  I know for sure that the days of Kamandi and B'Wana Beast are over.  But I just can't help thinking that some comic accurate JLA, JSA, and Titans might be around the corner in the Multiverse line.  Call it a hunch.  Or just hopeful.                   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on May 05, 2017, 10:09:01 pm
The streaming service may very well be where they release their equivalent of the Marvel Unlimited App.  That'll be a tough call for me.  I'd love access to the comics, don't feel much like paying for streaming stuff I'm not overly interested in.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 05, 2017, 10:55:18 pm
The streaming service may very well be where they release their equivalent of the Marvel Unlimited App.  That'll be a tough call for me.  I'd love access to the comics, don't feel much like paying for streaming stuff I'm not overly interested in.

I get that.  But what if the streaming service ended up offering a GoT type DCU show?  A big budget, high production value show that could stand alone even as it touches on the greater DCU.  Like New Gods or Legion of Super Heroes?  If it were up to me, I'd go with New Gods for the better narrative.  Tom Hardy as Orion.  Ian McKellen as Highfather.  James Earl Jones as the voice of Darkseid.  Idris Elba as Metron.  Etc.  Interested now?   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Chooch on May 06, 2017, 08:14:26 am
Depends on pricing. If I wait long enough can I get it another way, etc. It won't start with multi-million dollar new content though. They'll be conservative until they can show a profit.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 06, 2017, 09:32:55 am
CBS All Access or whatever they call it is $5.99/mo.  You can even combine that with Showtime OnDemand.  Dunno how much that costs.  WWE Network is $9.95/mo.  Both have thousands of hours of content.  I don't see how DC could justify more than 5 bucks a month initially. 

And yeah, a big budget TV epic is a ways off.  But don't think Geoff Johns hasn't gamed that one out in his head.  Something huge to grab the attention of the WB Corporate Overlords.  New Gods could be that.  Between Jimmy Olsen, New Gods, Mr. Miracle, Forever People, and Hunger Dogs, you can carve out a story for the ages.  I've always wondered how much the New Gods influenced Star Wars.  LSH would be my second choice.  There's certainly an epic feel to it, but this could be more open ended.  Both can be cut off from the DCU and not lose much.  But it would make storytelling much simpler.   


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 06, 2017, 04:22:04 pm
All I know is that I know nothing. 

If that were true, I wouldn't keep dredging up the same old shit that I whine about!  I love these discussions with you.  And for the record, I have no doubt that I have the lowest IQ and the least amount of common sense on this board.

Not so much in the movies, but I hear that Wonder Woman is very good.  Whether that's truth or spin, we'll know in about a month.

Ever since I saw the first trailer, I have been hopeful that WW will break the DC movie curse.   

The execs at Mattel, whether they know or care about DC Comics or not have to know that their biggest rivals are crushing it on the boys toys aisle with a primarily comic accurate line of action figures that goes deep and wide into the Marvel Universe.  If they don't know that, Mattel is truly fucked.


That's what I've never understood.  It's like "Hey guys....your 'neighbors' have a retail product that they are very successful with.  Guess what?  You have practically the SAME THING.  There's no reason you can't be doing just as well!"

EDIT: But I just can't help thinking that some comic accurate JLA, JSA, and Titans might be around the corner in the Multiverse line.  Call it a hunch.  Or just hopeful.

I'm bi-polar with this.  I go back and forth all the time, but I truly hope you are right.  Sure, I want C and D Listers, but an extension of A and B Listers will be just fine.  There's plenty of material to work with.  I will never believe that people want every conceivable STAR WARS character, a shit ton of MARVEL C and D Listers, but only BATMAN and SUPERMAN from DC.  That's crap.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 06, 2017, 05:49:40 pm
First off, thanks.  And I doubt your IQ is low.  Your posts are intelligent and thoughtful.  What I mean is that I know nothing about WB/DC/Mattel's game plan.  That's why I say I know nothing.  Because I don't.  All this is speculation and conjecture. 

As for why Mattel is so cautious about character selection, I've no idea.  Maybe because the sub failed.

It seems so simple especially with the Justice League movie on the way.  Extending that to the JSA, Titans, GLC, and LSH isn't much of a jump.  If you can't do that, how about Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, and Aquaman. 

Sadly, we may never get Warlord or Amethyst.  Aqualad, or even Tempest shouldn't be in the same category.  Nor Kingdom Come Superman, or GA Mr. Terrific, or a lobster head Zatanna (Perez costume).  And dozens more.           


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: powersthatbe on May 06, 2017, 08:41:14 pm
you know with the LOSH teen bucks they could have done a set or wave of teen titans like speedy,aqualad,malcom,changeling,jericho I guess we'll never know.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 06, 2017, 11:28:15 pm
you know with the LOSH teen bucks they could have done a set or wave of teen titans like speedy,aqualad,malcom,changeling,jericho I guess we'll never know.

That's EXACTLY what I always wanted.

Sadly, we may never get Warlord or Amethyst. 

From what I understand, WARLORD came extremely close to being made.  More than once.  [cursing]


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 07, 2017, 09:23:38 am
Never understood why the Teen Titans got so little attention from DCUC.

I heard that about Warlord too.  Very Frustrating. 


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 07, 2017, 10:57:07 am
So ultimately, what are our options in six inch DC figures from Mattel?  With two and a half months to SDCC and DC on a roll of sorts, it's worth discussing I think.  In no particular order: 

1) Most likely, the Multiverse line continues as is.  A mix of DCWTV figures and modern age (post Flashpoint) comic characters.

2) Spinning off a comic accurate line all inclusive of DC's history and diversity (of genres).  It's depth and width as a universe.  1934 to 2017.  Atom to Zatanna.   

3) A comic accurate line using the Justice League as a tent pole  giving us JSA, Titans, GLC and maybe LSH in the process.  This would include all members, associates, villains, and misc. 

4) A comic accurate line based on DC's current set of heavy hitters.  Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, and Aquaman.  This would include all family members, villains, and teams that they belong to. 

5) A straight up Rebirth comics line based on the DCU of the last year.

6) A line based around the big two.  Batman and Superman as far as the eye can see.  Extended families and teams obviously, and all the way back to 1938/39.  Multiverse/Elseworlds included.

7) A Batman line.  All family member, teams, eras, historical looks, and Multiverse/Elseworlds.  1939 to Dark Matter.  Plus any guest stars that have been in Batman and any other characters books that Batman has guest starred in.  Brave and the Bold comic roster is also eligible. 

Finally, the split.  Mattel takes everything but the comics.  Someone else will put out a full line of comic accurate figures based on DCUC looks.  This is all inclusive of all DC comics back to 1934 as long as DC owns the property outright.  Everything.  Just compatible with what's been put out so far.

Just some thoughts.  ;D     


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: kcekada on May 07, 2017, 01:14:16 pm
The streaming service may very well be where they release their equivalent of the Marvel Unlimited App.  That'll be a tough call for me.  I'd love access to the comics, don't feel much like paying for streaming stuff I'm not overly interested in.

I get that.  But what if the streaming service ended up offering a GoT type DCU show?  A big budget, high production value show that could stand alone even as it touches on the greater DCU.  Like New Gods or Legion of Super Heroes?  If it were up to me, I'd go with New Gods for the better narrative.  Tom Hardy as Orion.  Ian McKellen as Highfather.  James Earl Jones as the voice of Darkseid.  Idris Elba as Metron.  Etc.  Interested now?   

I find the New Gods are somewhat equal to Inhumans. They are good as guest stars -- boring in an ongoing series.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: fishmilkshake on May 07, 2017, 04:55:22 pm
The streaming service may very well be where they release their equivalent of the Marvel Unlimited App.  That'll be a tough call for me.  I'd love access to the comics, don't feel much like paying for streaming stuff I'm not overly interested in.

I get that.  But what if the streaming service ended up offering a GoT type DCU show?  A big budget, high production value show that could stand alone even as it touches on the greater DCU.  Like New Gods or Legion of Super Heroes?  If it were up to me, I'd go with New Gods for the better narrative.  Tom Hardy as Orion.  Ian McKellen as Highfather.  James Earl Jones as the voice of Darkseid.  Idris Elba as Metron.  Etc.  Interested now?   

I find the New Gods are somewhat equal to Inhumans. They are good as guest stars -- boring in an ongoing series.

Same.

I've tried to read the stuff in the past where Byrne and Simonson have tried to continue what the King had done, but I just couldn't take to it.


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Gardner Grayle on May 07, 2017, 05:52:42 pm
You're right of course.  They are the ultimate ensemble cast.  Plus all the add ons for 40 plus years weigh down the concept.  On top of all that, no one outside of Morrison really seems to "get it" where the New Gods are concerned.  These aren't aliens from another galaxy, these are gods from another realm.  The offspring of our mythology.  The gods of the industrial revolution and technology.  At least Darkseid is. 

So first of all, bring back Morrison and pay him whatever he wants.  Start with what Kirby left us and forget the shit like Jezebel, Dr. Impossible, and Sleez.  Combine all the Fourth World books into one and tell us story that reads like Norse Mythology meets the Bible meets a Spaghetti Western meets Star Wars meets Gone with the Wind meets Game of Thrones.   

Then put it on TV.  ;D       


Title: Re: DCUC Discussion thread
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on May 07, 2017, 06:05:32 pm
You put a lot of thought into that GARD, so I don't want to take that for granted.  I'm going to list my personal thoughts about everything you listed, because nobody asked! Haha!

1) Most likely, the Multiverse line continues as is.  A mix of DCWTV figures and modern age (post Flashpoint) comic characters.

Very, very likely.

2) Spinning off a comic accurate line all inclusive of DC's history and diversity (of genres).  It's depth and width as a universe.  1934 to 2017.  Atom to Zatanna. 

As awesome as that would be, those days are over.  We will NEVER see that kind of variety again.

3) A comic accurate line using the Justice League as a tent pole  giving us JSA, Titans, GLC and maybe LSH in the process.  This would include all members, associates, villains, and misc.

If WB are going to make a change, this could be it.  The name recognition of the movie is a strong, solid connection.

4) A comic accurate line based on DC's current set of heavy hitters.  Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, and Aquaman.  This would include all family members, villains, and teams that they belong to.

If a JUSTICE LEAGUE line doesn't happen, this would be the next best thing.  In fact, it's almost the same thing.

5) A straight up Rebirth comics line based on the DCU of the last year.

Strangely, I kind of hope this doesn't happen.  You said earlier that you looked for a major even to take place afterwards, so that might have been why there hasn't been a REBIRTH line.  After some thought, that makes perfect sense.

6) A line based around the big two.  Batman and Superman as far as the eye can see.  Extended families and teams obviously, and all the way back to 1938/39.  Multiverse/Elseworlds included.

Entirely possible, and not far from where we are now, but I hope for something else.

7) A Batman line.  All family member, teams, eras, historical looks, and Multiverse/Elseworlds.  1939 to Dark Matter.  Plus any guest stars that have been in Batman and any other characters books that Batman has guest