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Title: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: B-Lister on July 24, 2016, 01:04:23 pm
So, with the SDCC announcement that Thundercats is gonna get canceled, how much you wanna bet Mattel will blow out unsold stock dirt cheap?

Tcats fans get screwed again. And this time, the figures were nice.

Still, glad I held on to my Bandai Mumm Ra.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 24, 2016, 04:05:35 pm
(http://i68.tinypic.com/j7tcp4.jpg)

I'm not really sure how this is gonna go.  Some folks have hope that it will continue, and others think it's DOA, period.  My fear is that even if SUPER7 pulls this off, a THUNDERCAT figure will jump in price to maybe 40+ bucks.  Let's face it: THUNDERCATS aren't as popular as MOTU, so smaller production runs are a fact.  Sadly, that may mean higher prices.

But at the same time....you have people over on the ORG who keep saying they are happy to pay up to 50 bucks for figures. 


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: B-Lister on July 24, 2016, 06:38:16 pm
The .org is full of retarded children, and sissy boys who never grew the fuck up. They are the internet equivalent of a short bus full of sniveling window lickers too afraid to step off and face the beating that is deservedly awaiting them.

And Val Staples isn't the bus driver, he's the pimple coated ginger with the scoliosis brace, in biggest need of a colossal ass kicking.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 24, 2016, 07:07:23 pm
The .org is full of retarded children, and sissy boys who never grew the fuck up. They are the internet equivalent of a short bus full of sniveling window lickers too afraid to step off and face the beating that is deservedly awaiting them.

And Val Staples isn't the bus driver, he's the pimple coated ginger with the scoliosis brace, in biggest need of a colossal ass kicking.

I always liked Rocko's description...The Taliban of the toy world.   ;D


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Scotty on July 24, 2016, 07:12:51 pm
Sad as it is, I struggle to have too much sympathy for people who continued to give Matty their money after all the evidence of how unwise that was.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 24, 2016, 07:23:19 pm
Well if you're a DC fan, you have many outlets to spend your money.  If you're a Marvel fan, same deal.  If you're a MotU fan, not so much.  Unfortunately, the attitude most of them seem to have doesn't evoke much sympathy to begin with.   


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 24, 2016, 07:46:33 pm
Granted, just because somebody says something on the internet, it doesn't mean it's true.  But you have people over there saying that they buy 2, 3, and often more Subs just to support the line.  I shit you not, one guy said he bought 20 Subs.  I WISH I had money to piss away like that!  

As for THUNDERCATS, I guess it's just wait-and-see.  I honestly think the price will dramatically go up, and that's if it even goes through.  It's entirely possible that it won't go through, and THUNDERCATS dies yet again.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Chooch on July 24, 2016, 08:23:34 pm
I fear MOTUC prices will skyrocket, much less Thundercats.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Gardner Grayle on July 24, 2016, 08:57:54 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=345&itemid=26876

Pixel Dan does the hard hitting toy journalism.  So you don't have to.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: fishmilkshake on July 24, 2016, 09:20:48 pm
*Le sigh*


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on July 25, 2016, 10:28:34 pm
I fear MOTUC prices will skyrocket, much less Thundercats.

If that's the case, which sadly makes sense, I'm done with both lines.  This bullshit of paying 40 bucks or more for a Goddamned 6" toy is not gonna work.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 01, 2016, 02:19:54 pm
So, it looks like we're playing the Wait and See game.  Hell....it might take a year or more for the licensing to be straightened out.  And even if SUPER 7 is allowed to do T-CATS, I wouldn't be surprised to see the price jump 10 bucks or more.  Ugh.

I could be wrong, but it's hard to be optimistic at this point.  [think]


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 01, 2016, 05:09:26 pm
So, it looks like we're playing the Wait and See game.  Hell....it might take a year or more for the licensing to be straightened out.  And even if SUPER 7 is allowed to do T-CATS, I wouldn't be surprised to see the price jump 10 bucks or more.  Ugh.

I could be wrong, but it's hard to be optimistic at this point.  [think]

Yeah, it must suck to then have to pay domestic shipping on top of that  :D

Seriously though, I don't mind higher prices (though there is a limit) if the product is well done. Mythic Legions was one example. Beautifully executed figures with tons of cool and relevant accessories and reusable collector friendly packaging.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Chooch on August 01, 2016, 07:34:38 pm
Even without shipping Matty figs were getting ridiculously expensive.  I share NCM's concerns.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 01, 2016, 07:54:16 pm
Yeah, it must suck to then have to pay domestic shipping on top of that  :D

Sorry FISH, I know overseas shipping is just fucking ridiculous. 

But I'm just saying for me personally, some of these figure prices are really getting out of hand.  Everybody has to have some kind of price ceiling.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Titansfan on August 04, 2016, 07:42:06 am
Got my Thunderkitten set yesterday.  Now I'm really upset about the situation.  These are excellent figures.  I really hope they work out a deal and complete the core team, and the top four bad guys left.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 04, 2016, 09:02:02 am
I don't think Super 7 has quite the resources or legal team that Mattel has.  But I do hope more TC's get made. 


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Chooch on August 04, 2016, 09:35:05 am
Got mine yesterday as well.  Haven't opened the box yet, but they look great!


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 04, 2016, 10:47:53 am
I really hope they work out a deal and complete the core team, and the top four bad guys left.

Agreed.  It's an incredible start to what could be a very nice little line.  At this point, I don't think the Realists are even thinking of 2nd and 3rd string characters....they just want the A-Listers done.

If this is really gonna happen, I would still like JAGA and GRUNE, but I'm not holding my breath.

Granted, if each figure costs 45 bucks, that's going to suck donkey ass.  [thumbs down]


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 05, 2016, 05:50:23 pm
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/mattycollector-com-announce-shipping-delay-on-thundercats-liono-action-figure/


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Chooch on September 05, 2016, 08:07:08 pm
I think every MOTU figure has been delayed this year so this isn't a big surprise.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 06, 2016, 10:03:54 pm
I guess it's better than cancelling and sending us our money back.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 10, 2016, 07:12:48 pm
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/mattycollector-915-releases-announced-thundercats-lion-o-plus-motu-general-sunder-night-stalker/


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: powersthatbe on September 10, 2016, 08:45:17 pm
I'm disappointed we're getting night stalker instead of Stridor,wonder why he wasn't chosen first?


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Chooch on September 11, 2016, 08:25:17 pm
Hasbro's been doing something similar with Transformers lately.  If you know you're going to re-paint, release the less desirable one first, so people are more likely to buy both.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: fishmilkshake on September 12, 2016, 02:56:07 am
I suppose if MOTU and Thundercats are both on their way out....and Matty has quit....then that's the end of anything niche from Mattel.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Gardner Grayle on September 12, 2016, 09:13:19 am
Not all that surprising.  They're not really set up  to do that.  Hasbro doesn't do much of it either.  It's too bad though.  Although I really had no dog in the fight, it's pretty obvious that for the right property, there is a market.  It's finding the right niche with a rabid, loyal fan base that's the problem. 

My consolation is that anything Mattel does with the DC license now has to be retail.  Unless it's a convention exclusive.  And in the event that it is something I want, I'm already prepared to pay through the nose for it.  To a point. 


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: bigraj on September 13, 2016, 08:27:02 am
So, I got charged by Matty and the Thundercats is the only sub I have.  Does this mean that the first figure is on it's way, or soon will be?  I haven't gotten any email from them.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on September 13, 2016, 11:47:58 am
LION-O is supposed to ship in late September.

I agree, GARD.  There really is a niche market out there for lots of stuff, but I hate how smaller lines cost more to produce.  I understand why, but it's annoying.  I suppose a cutback on articulation might help, but people may not care for that. 


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Chooch on September 13, 2016, 08:19:07 pm
I got two emails, each saying I was charged for Sunder and the horse.  I shouldn't get Lion-O until they all ship in December in the bundle.  We'll see what really happens.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 03, 2016, 11:44:06 pm
What a mess.  Over on the ORG, some people who ordered LION-O on DOS are getting shipping notices while some SUBBERS haven't received notices yet.

While I do find that quite strange, it's almost funny.  Many people over there are so Goddamned entitled, and now their heads are exploding because everything isn't revolving around them and what they want!  On top of that, a lot of them scream that if a person doesn't Sub, they aren't a true fan, and they really don't matter.  Again...that's a little funny, because apparently, DOS Buyers do matter!


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 04, 2016, 02:30:21 am
I'm getting mine iteratively and got my international shipping notice. Not surprisingly, it's not shipped. We'll see.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Chooch on October 04, 2016, 11:40:28 am
Iteratively?  As in monthly?


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 04, 2016, 11:22:47 pm
Iteratively?  As in monthly?

Yah, ship each figure as it becomes available, rather than all together later in the year. Difference for international wasn't that much.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Chooch on October 05, 2016, 11:31:33 am
Gotcha.  I opted for to wait for the full bundle for the first time ever.  I'm sadly not optimistic I'll see anything.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: bigraj on October 05, 2016, 03:57:02 pm
Wait, non-subbers are getting their notices, but not my fellow subbers?  I demand justice!
Never mind.  I gots mine.

(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq25/gambitcajun/Toy%20Hauls/BF46D854-CD27-4121-A0DF-C8079894A632.jpg)


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 16, 2016, 06:10:21 pm
http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=291&itemid=27872


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 18, 2016, 12:01:12 am
I'm a sad panda at the thought that Panthro could be it for the line. So close and yet so far.


Title: Re: Thundercats crashes and burns...again.
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 18, 2016, 12:12:08 am
Yep.  We have no idea if this line will go on or not.  And even if it does, 2017 is almost here.  You have to assume that there would be a gap of several months between these figures and the next 'wave'.  Heck....maybe even a year or more.  Loss of momentum could hurt it.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 23, 2016, 07:27:31 pm
If Super-7 managed to get out another sub (four figures plus a Club figure) who would you want to see included?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: powersthatbe on December 23, 2016, 08:02:27 pm
well I got the Pumrya sub Tuesday and  I got the Panthro sub today so I was glad to get them before Christmas.so that's that for Matty.looking forward to seeing what super 7 will bring.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 23, 2016, 09:22:57 pm
If Super-7 managed to get out another sub (four figures plus a Club figure) who would you want to see included?

As always, I have weird taste.  That said:

-JAGA
-GRUNE
-HACHI MAN
-LYNX O

I just realized that we won't be seeing any T-CATS at TOY FAIR '17, because, unless they have the license, why would SUPER 7 have any prototypes?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: B-Lister on December 23, 2016, 10:50:36 pm
Very kind to use my thread instead of starting a new one.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 24, 2016, 05:34:34 pm
Very kind to use my thread instead of starting a new one.

Seemed fair enough.

I just wanted Cheetara. I know she's big gun and they were probably leaving her for a second year sub, but damn she will be missed if this is it. I was hoping there was custom potential in Pumrya.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: B-Lister on December 24, 2016, 06:32:45 pm
I wanted everything. But when they said this was it, I decided not to sub. That Jackalman is sweet, and I would have lved to see what they could do with Ssslithe.

Alas, much like the (decent, but not great) Bandai line before it, we are left to wonder what might have been.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 24, 2016, 06:59:51 pm
I might be crazy, but I haven't given up hope yet.  I'm not exactly the most positive person, but I consider it a miracle that MATTEL agreed to share MOTU CLASSICS, which they invented and own.  I consider it a miracle that THUNDERCATS CLASSICS even exists after the failure of both the 8" and 6" lines.  Think about that!

Technically, who would have even thought there could be another MOTU line after the 2002 line died??  It's been going on 8 years now!

It may take a while, but I think THUNDERCATS CLASSICS can still pull through.  It probably won't last nearly as long as MOTUC, but I think there could be another 2 to 4 waves.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: B-Lister on December 24, 2016, 07:29:32 pm
I don't invest in maybes.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 29, 2016, 07:17:12 am
http://www.mattycollector.com/store/matty/DisplayHomePage

Panthro back in stock.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on December 29, 2016, 09:40:28 am
Super Power colored Supes, Bats, and Wondy can't even sell out at half-price.  They really didn't get the retail vs. collector idea with that line.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 29, 2016, 10:29:45 am
I was on the verge of ordering SP Superman.  Then I watched a review on YouTube and realized he's not the Carolina blue version we all wanted.  And had an older head sculpt to boot.  Ended up passing. 

If they wanted to end DCUC with Super Powers, there were a number of ways to go that would've put the exclamation point on the line.  Instead, they went for cheap, easy, and uninspired.  And it blew up on them.  Expect these for ten bucks at Ollie's soon.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on December 29, 2016, 11:29:48 am
I still cannot believe that that hideous RIDDLER was green lit.  What an eyesore!!  [sick]


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on December 29, 2016, 11:46:32 am
You'll notice the the one new character...Mr. Mxzy, did sell out.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Boy Wonder on December 29, 2016, 06:59:39 pm
I only bought one from China on eBay for like $14, which was still too much but not as bad as the ridiculous price Matty was asking.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on December 29, 2016, 08:06:21 pm
I bet Degra is going crazy right now.

Two sets to keep mint, open set for home display, a set for the office, a set to play with in the car while at red lights, etc.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 02, 2017, 01:58:22 pm
Does anybody here really want SUPER 7 to get the THUNDERCATS license, or do you just not care?

Just curious.  [think]


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on January 02, 2017, 06:24:52 pm
I want someone that will create a cohesive, affordable Classic line to get it.  Super 7 may be too small to pull that off in the long run.  I love the figures the 4H did for Matty, but they're a bit bulky and wouldn't work well with a Thundertank.  Bandai's smaller scale figures of the new 'Cats worked well with their vehicles.  The figures were a bit simple though, as is Bandai's way.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 02, 2017, 06:33:15 pm
If SUPER 7 gets the license, I think we could see a couple of decent waves.  But there's no way that THUNDERCATS could last several years.  I mean, sure....there's enough material, but I just don't see it happening.  I think it would last maybe 3 to 5 waves max.

THUNDERCATS simply aren't as popular as MOTU, and I don't see their fans being as rabid as HE-Fans.  But if SUPER 7 put the pedal to the medal, I think all the main characters would get done.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 02, 2017, 07:17:33 pm
I have the 4" Bnadai line and all the vehicles and while they're fun, my heart is just in the 6-7" scale. I really do want Super-7 to pick-up and finish the line. At least one more sub of 4 figures plus the sub exclusive would be sweet. I just want the rest of the main players. Cheetara, Tygra, Grune, etc.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 03, 2017, 11:36:11 am
Yeah, if it goes through, I see no reason why we cannot get TYGRA, CHEETARA, SLYTHE, MONKIAN, VULTURE MAN, JAGA, LYNX O, and GRUNE.  Granted, I'm no THUNDERCATS expert, so I'm not 100% sure about the most popular characters.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: bigraj on January 03, 2017, 12:44:22 pm
As long as I get most of the main team members and villains from the first season, I'm good.  I don't care if they can't get around to making the robot bears or the Berserkers.  Grune the Destroyer would be cool, though.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 03, 2017, 03:51:00 pm
My main wants are GRUNE, JAGA, and HACHI MAN.  But I also wouldn't mind having VULTURE MAN and LYNX O.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on January 04, 2017, 10:36:34 am
I'd consider complete:

Cheetara
Tygra
Bengali
Lynx-O
Snarf
Snarfer

Sssslythe
Monkian
Vultureman
Powered-Up Mumm-Ra

Anything further would be icing.  For vehicles I'd really dig the Thunderclaw.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 04, 2017, 04:13:48 pm
Disappointed that the Mumm-Ra we got is the "reg" version.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: bigraj on January 04, 2017, 04:36:30 pm
Disappointed that the Mumm-Ra we got is the "reg" version.

Yeah, pretty hard for Mummy-Ra to instill much fear in the mighty 'Cats.  Need the Ever-Living to slap them around.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 04, 2017, 07:15:06 pm
I always assumed that a 'roided up MUMM-RA would show up if the line proceeded.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: powersthatbe on January 04, 2017, 07:31:50 pm
I would be happy with just Cheetara,Tygra,Jaga,Bengali,Lynx-o,Grune and 'Roid Rage MummRa ;) ThunderTank and Cat's Lair would be awesome but that's thinking way too far ahead.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 05, 2017, 12:37:19 pm
You guys know more about the THUNDERCATS than me.  How tall should 'Roid Rage MUMM-RA be?  He's bigger than the Cats, right?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: bigraj on January 05, 2017, 01:49:23 pm
I remember him being larger than Lion-O in both cartoons, by at least a head.  Maybe more in the more recent (and much more awesome, IMO) 'toon.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: bigraj on January 05, 2017, 01:55:39 pm
Original toon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI6l_hkEEmU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI6l_hkEEmU)



2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co2Z4m9i5nY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co2Z4m9i5nY)


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 05, 2017, 03:51:16 pm
Nice!

I'd have been happy if they used the reg MOTU buck. Same size as Lion-O wouldn't have worried me.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on January 05, 2017, 10:45:31 pm
Maybe more in the more recent (and much more awesome, IMO) 'toon.

Agreed, it died too soon.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: bigraj on January 06, 2017, 08:56:36 am
Maybe more in the more recent (and much more awesome, IMO) 'toon.

Agreed, it died too soon.

IIRC, it was because the toys didn't sell.  Of course, the toys were pretty shitty, but it's still our fault for not buying them.   ;)

Despite liking the newer show, I still prefer the original costumes.  Me am odd.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 06, 2017, 01:49:00 pm
Despite liking the newer show, I still prefer the original costumes.  Me am odd.

It's a funny thing.  The newer show was written better, but I also prefer the Classic designs.  Sort of like the cheesy 80s MOTU cartoon vs the 2002 version.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on January 06, 2017, 02:27:28 pm
I don't think it's surprising that later shows written by fans that are now grown-up appeal more to us older folks, but nostalgia is hard to break for visual things like costumes.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 06, 2017, 02:45:42 pm
....but nostalgia is hard to break for visual things like costumes.

Very well said.

I once read in an interview with some actor about how the stuff you take a liking to between ages 9 and 12 pretty much sticks with you for life.  I think back to those years, and it makes a hell of a lot of sense....the BRONZE AGE of comics, HE-MAN, GI JOE, early 80s Sword and Sorcery, STAR WARS, etc....

And also, good point about the writing.  The newer stuff gets written by people who grew up on the original.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on January 06, 2017, 05:47:10 pm
I just got Mumm-Ra, Pumyra, and the Twins.

Now I'm really gonna sulk if we don't get the rest.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on January 06, 2017, 07:34:39 pm
I have LION-O and PANTHRO, and love them both.  I really wanted the 8" and then the 6" line to succeed, so I'm happy that we have yet a third chance.

If SUPER 7 pulls this off and there are enough buyers, this could be a great little line.  Fifteen to twenty more figures would be great!


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Titansfan on February 19, 2017, 12:48:29 am
Super 7 said a deal was close to being finalized.  Fucking Chetara, and Tigra better be the first two they make or the pitchforks will be coming out.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Boy Wonder on February 19, 2017, 07:19:47 am
Maybe a Lion-O that isn't $80?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 19, 2017, 07:59:21 pm
Super 7 said a deal was close to being finalized.  Fucking Chetara, and Tigra better be the first two they make or the pitchforks will be coming out.

I think THUNDERCATS will be handled in a much more streamlined, cut-the-fat type of fashion.  I don't see it going more than 4 more waves, and I think pretty much all your main characters would be produced.  Very meat and potatoes.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on February 19, 2017, 08:01:50 pm
And they'll probably kick it off like they did MOTU - re-releasing what's come so far.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Titansfan on February 19, 2017, 10:32:28 pm
Honestly if I can get the last two core Thundercats, a transformed Mumm-Ra, and three more mutants I'll be happy.   I don't need the supporting characters.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Titansfan on February 19, 2017, 10:34:03 pm
But I would buy Jaga,  Grune, Lynx-O, and Bengali.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 20, 2017, 12:34:24 am
And they'll probably kick it off like they did MOTU - re-releasing what's come so far.

Good point!  And that would be a great way to start.  [thumbs up]

Personally, I'm a very casual THUNDERCATS fan.  I wanted LION-O and PANTHRO more than anything.  All else is gravy ( for me ).

That said, I would love JAGA, GRUNE, and HACHI MAN.  ;)   And LYNX-O.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on February 20, 2017, 08:11:38 pm
Here's to an announcement at SDCC then.  [innocent]


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 09, 2017, 03:13:31 pm
WARNER BROS says no to SUPER 7 having the T-CATS license.  At about the 3:25 mark:

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=291&itemid=29125

Possibly a reboot on the way?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on June 09, 2017, 07:19:26 pm
More likely they didn't like the deal.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Titansfan on June 09, 2017, 10:09:11 pm
Fuck it


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 09, 2017, 10:09:25 pm
I can't lie and say I'm too surprised or disappointed.  Even if S7 had gotten the license, I half expected the figs to cost about 45 or 50 bucks a piece due to the unique body styles.

This doesn't bode well.  It's the third try and fail for Classic T-CATS.  Either WARNER BROS is planning a reboot, or they are forever dead.  Nobody else is touching this license.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on June 10, 2017, 01:41:15 am
What the fuck do WB have to lose here?

Fuck them!!!!  >:(


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 10, 2017, 05:11:42 pm
Let's face it....there's a 99% chance that any reboot is gonna suck.  :P



Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: bigraj on June 12, 2017, 12:42:37 pm
Let's face it....there's a 99% chance that any reboot is gonna suck.  :P



Maybe not.  The 2011 take on the 'Cats was very good, though I liked the 80's costumes better.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 12, 2017, 01:12:35 pm
Maybe not.  The 2011 take on the 'Cats was very good, though I liked the 80's costumes better.

That's a very good point, RAJ.  I think that for both HE-MAN and the THUNDERCATS, their reboots were far, far stronger and more well thought out than the original material, but at the same time, they weren't the smash hits that the originals were. 

Why weren't the reboots hits?  Bad time slots?  Cartoon Network didn't show enough support?  Kids from the 80s were a lot different than kids from the 2000s?  The Sword & Sorcery genre is a thing of the past?  They should have been on a major network instead of cable?  Maybe it was everything.

I'd love to think that a reboot would be a more fleshed out version with 80s costumes, and a cheaper, easy-to-buy retail toy line, but that's probably just a pipe dream.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: bigraj on June 12, 2017, 02:34:23 pm
IIRC, the recent Thundercats 'toon was cancelled not because of low ratings, but because the toys were selling poorly.  I'm sure the TV ratings weren't as good as the 80's version, simply because there are so many more channels to watch and other ways to be entertained than there were back then.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 12, 2017, 03:10:29 pm
That's why I can't imagine any reboot doing gangbusters.  I could be wrong, but I just don't see it. 


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on June 12, 2017, 06:37:46 pm
I really don't think any TV show does well anymore in regard to translating to action figure sales.  Outside of Power Rangers and Ninja Turtles (which are boosted by the now adults that were kids in the 90's seeking a nostalgia fix) is there a line based on a show with any staying power?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 12, 2017, 07:48:48 pm
I'm not thinking reboot here.  I'm thinking complete relaunch.  For those of you old enough, think Crisis on Infinite Earths.  Think JJ Abrams on Star Trek.  Think Battlestar Galactica 2004. 

In this world where entertainment companies keep getting bigger and more vertical, it's all about content.  Some at brainiac at Warner's has probably identified ThunderCats as a property that can be relaunched and monetized.  Movies, TV, cartoons, games, digital, comics and yes, toys.  In my opinion, T-Cats are a cleaner version of MotU.  The source material is very limited as opposed to the sources for MotU which are many and all over the place. 

As a side note, when you start poking around into who owns what in the entertainment industry, it's eye opening.  Turns out Magnus, Solar, and Turok are owned by NBCUniversal (Comcast).  Which ultimately means any of them could show up on SYFY as some shitty CanAm sci-fi pilot.  Painful.     


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 13, 2017, 12:07:22 am
A big relaunch does make sense.  If WB has something huge planned, S7 definitely would not have the resources to handle it.  Why else would they yank the license?



Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 13, 2017, 08:51:25 am
But it could be a few years before anything happens on our end.  The potential might be there though.  Think of a T-Cats movie like Lord of the Rings.  Think of a T-Cats TV show like the Shannara Chronicles.  Not Game of Thrones.  This is probably a long term plan.  Announcement at SDCC?  Maybe?  WB needs to fill two sizable holes left over from Harry Potter and LotR/Hobbit.  Wonder Woman is a baby step in doing so. 

Just my mental diarrhea kicking in again.  Sorry.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on June 13, 2017, 07:51:53 pm
Why else would they yank the license?

Because Super 7 wasn't offering good terms.  Because Super 7 wouldn't offer the reach another licensor could.  Because someone at WB had a bad burrito that day and wanted to settle the matter quickly.  It's the entertainment biz - logic is a minor factor.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 14, 2017, 07:24:47 am
I disagree.  In the entertainment industry, logic=$$$.  Follow the $$$ to find out the real reason. 

Of course, that information isn't accessible to the public, so we may never know.   


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 14, 2017, 11:24:35 am
Well, I suppose it's entirely possible that THUNDERCATS will undergo a big relaunch.  Who knows?  I'm quick to go straight to doom-n-gloom, but it could be that MATTEL or somebody else will pick up where the recent line left off.  TPTB would have to feel pretty confident about it, and I can't see it being anything other than direct-to-consumer, but it could happen.  Especially if there were already a movie, TV show, or new comics.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: KOLOBOSREXX on June 14, 2017, 03:43:24 pm
...Cornboy from the 4 Horsemen seemed to indicate on FB that Super 7 was at fault for T-Cats falling through... I'm guessing Brian tried to peddle his overpriced novelty crap as inclusion to a Thundercats Classic license, and WB was like, "Thanks but No Thanks!!  His entirely inappropriate glibness while revealing the news in his podcast speaks volumes, IMHO. >:D


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 14, 2017, 04:55:58 pm
Well, I suppose it's entirely possible that THUNDERCATS will undergo a big relaunch.  Who knows?  I'm quick to go straight to doom-n-gloom, but it could be that MATTEL or somebody else will pick up where the recent line left off.  TPTB would have to feel pretty confident about it, and I can't see it being anything other than direct-to-consumer, but it could happen.  Especially if there were already a movie, TV show, or new comics.

Doubtful Mattel will.  They've gone out of their way to get rid of any vestiges of any collector niche lines.  If they can't sell it at big box retail, apparently they want nothing to do with it.  Getting rid of mattycollector.com is a sure sign of that.  And it may be part of the reason why we've seen no Mattel SDCC exclusives yet.

Be that as it may, T-Cats has a loyal fan base.  Who knows what's up?

Were it up to me (and it's not), I would roll it all together with all of the other appropriate Cartoon Network/Boomerang shows like Space Ghost, Johnny Quest, Herculoids, Thundarr, etc, for one big sci-fi cartoon line.  Six inch scale of course.  Basically the cast of DC Comics Future Quest + Thundarr and the ThunderCats.       


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 14, 2017, 05:15:05 pm
Jeez, GARD, stop bustin' my chops!  I'm trying to be positive for once! [gah]


I kid, I kid. ;)

But I do love your Cartoon line.  Totally sweet idea!

It really does make me wonder what's going on.  Is it like REXX said?  Did Brian Flynn annoy a WARNER BROS exec with the idea of THUNDERCATS Marionettes and salt and pepper shakers?  Is WARNER BROS planning a huge relaunch?  Or did WB just cut all ties because it's their property to do with what they please?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 14, 2017, 06:35:23 pm
Sorry dude.  Reality compels me to shoot straight.   ;)

After a bit of Wikipedia detective work, this toon line could be virtually never ending.  WB owns or controls most everything on CN/Boomerang including all those old shows as well as Samurai Jack and Ben 10.  Even if we're just talking the Superhero type stuff, it's dozens, maybe hundreds of characters.  Include Bugs Bunny, the Flintstones, the Jetsons, Tom and Jerry, Scooby Doo, Secret Squirrel and the like, it's thousands of potential figures.  Do 'em all in the same scale/style, I might be tempted.  I'd love Foghorn Leghorn.         


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on June 14, 2017, 08:27:13 pm
A shotgun approach like that doesn't seem to work at big box though.  Most people don't have a big desire to have Johnny Bravo in sync with Cheetara.

Because they're fools, but still.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 14, 2017, 09:20:42 pm
CHOOCH may be right, but man....I would LOVE a line like that!

Sorry dude.  Reality compels me to shoot straight.   ;)

Haha!  It's ok...I just like having stuff to look forward to.  Looking at it from the outside, I would say there is no chance in hell of another Classic T-CATS line.  The frustrating thing is that it wasn't bad  sales....it was simply MATTEL wanting out of the 'specialty' business.  Sure, MEZCO might put out more statues, but I want AFFORDABLE toys.  And I don't want cute little, big headed, cartoony, blocky figurines.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 14, 2017, 10:30:34 pm
First wave:

Porky Pig
Johnny Bravo
Samurai Jack
Top Cat
Barney Rubble
Ookla the Mok

C&C Frankenstein Jr.

Second wave:

Bugs Bunny
Captain Caveman
Space Ghost
Magilla Gorilla
Penelope Pitstop
Race Bannon

C&C Grape Ape

Third Wave

Foghorn Leghorn
Wilma Flintstone w/pack-in Pebbles
Cheetara
Secret Squirrel
Mightorr
I am Weasel

C&C Shazzan

 ;D


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on June 15, 2017, 08:08:34 am
CHOOCH may be right, but man....I would LOVE a line like that!

Sorry dude.  Reality compels me to shoot straight.   ;)

Haha!  It's ok...I just like having stuff to look forward to.  Looking at it from the outside, I would say there is no chance in hell of another Classic T-CATS line.  The frustrating thing is that it wasn't bad  sales....it was simply MATTEL wanting out of the 'specialty' business.  Sure, MEZCO might put out more statues, but I want AFFORDABLE toys.  And I don't want cute little, big headed, cartoony, blocky figurines.

I'm with you.  I can't afford the upscale stuff either aside from the fact that I have no display/storage room.  I don't like the POPs or any of that other stuff either.  I want good old fashioned articulated action figures in six inch scale. 

I dunno what's gonna happen with the T-Cats.  But there may be a better option than Mattel/S7.  I really just threw it out there about a Cartoon Network line, but the more I think of it, it would be kinda cool to be able to buy Jonny Quest, Thundarr, Lion-O, Space Ghost, and Zandor in one unified line.         


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on June 15, 2017, 11:01:24 am
I really just threw it out there about a Cartoon Network line, but the more I think of it, it would be kinda cool to be able to buy Jonny Quest, Thundarr, Lion-O, Space Ghost, and Zandor in one unified line.

Who knows?  Maybe something like that is in the works.

We live in a day and age of Collecting.  Sure, collecting has always been around, but it's more exposed than ever, even in a negative way as seen in HOARDERS.  But we see it in shows like PAWN STARS, AMERICAN PICKERS, and COMIC BOOK MEN.  So called Geek Culture is highly popular currently.  Maybe WB has something huge going on, and T-CATS is just a small part of it. 

My point is that even if Brian Flynn from S7 pissed WB off, I can't think they just yanked the license with the intention of merely sitting on it.  Of course that's possible, but I just cannot think the CATS are dead and done.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 08, 2017, 12:21:02 pm
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=27259&start=180

And rumors begin to swirl again from NTCC...


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Boy Wonder on October 08, 2017, 03:02:35 pm
I'm very tempted to get a set of 7 off eBay. They're not crazy priced for a whole set like that. That news makes it even more tempting.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 08, 2017, 03:50:18 pm
Go ahead and get 'em now, BW.  They are very high quality, very sharp looking figures.  I don't think you'll regret it. 

As a Cherry Picker with a limited budget, I mainly want JAGA, GRUNE, and possibly HACHI MAN if it would go that far.  But I'm already wondering how much these things will cost.  MOTU Classics are now at about 35 bucks a pop not including shipping.  Why would T-CATS be any different?

Sigh....I have to laugh about myself: Already worrying about the cost of something that doesn't even  exist yet, and may not exist for another year or so!


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Boy Wonder on October 09, 2017, 10:06:06 am
Paid $190 shipped for all 7 figures. I'm happy with that.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 09, 2017, 04:11:27 pm
Sounds reasonable.  Those prices will shoot up if they make a deal.  Then again, they'll fall if the deal falls through. 


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Boy Wonder on October 12, 2017, 09:39:35 pm
Got them tonight. I'm really happy with them. Glad I went all in. Besides the kids and Pumyra just kind of being OK, the rest are awesome. Didn't realize they had ML style ankles too. I'm realizing how little I actually know about ThunderCats. I need to watch some episodes to refresh my memory/learn for the first time. 


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 13, 2017, 01:05:00 am
Got them tonight. I'm really happy with them. Glad I went all in. Besides the kids and Pumyra just kind of being OK, the rest are awesome. Didn't realize they had ML style ankles too. I'm realizing how little I actually know about ThunderCats. I need to watch some episodes to refresh my memory/learn for the first time. 

This could have been a truly epic line  >:(


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Boy Wonder on October 13, 2017, 10:25:49 am
Yeah, it's a double edged sword with having these now.

On one hand, I've got some pretty good figures of a few ThunderCats characters

On the other hand, now I'll be pretty sad if we never get anyone else. S7 seems pretty eager to keep it going. I'll be optimistic. This is only going to get compounded by me watching the show.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on October 13, 2017, 11:32:24 am
I'm optimistic someone other than S7 can continue, or at least start over with the license.  My one complaint about the Mattel Cats is that they're a bit more roided out than they were depicted on the cartoon.  I've suffered through multiple false starts, I can suffer through one more.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 13, 2017, 12:50:30 pm
Got them tonight. I'm really happy with them. Glad I went all in. Besides the kids and Pumyra just kind of being OK, the rest are awesome. Didn't realize they had ML style ankles too. I'm realizing how little I actually know about ThunderCats. I need to watch some episodes to refresh my memory/learn for the first time.

I'm glad you like 'em, BW.  They're very well done.  I only wanted LION-O and PANTHRO, but I think they're all fantastic.

I'm optimistic someone other than S7 can continue, or at least start over with the license.

I agree with you about another company.  From what I heard, WB ended things after S7 lowballed them.  Giving S7 a second chance tells me that somebody really wants to continue the 'CATS, and I figure that if S7 can't do it, they'll just move on to another company.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on October 13, 2017, 03:55:53 pm
I agree with you about another company.  From what I heard, WB ended things after S7 lowballed them.  Giving S7 a second chance tells me that somebody really wants to continue the 'CATS, and I figure that if S7 can't do it, they'll just move on to another company.

I often wonder about these kind of decisions. Isn't some money better than no money?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 13, 2017, 04:41:36 pm
I know absolutely none of the details between WB and S7, but I find it a little funny that WB approached them a second time.  I mean....what changed?  Where there no other companies they could go to?  Or maybe they did, and they weren't happy with any of the results.

Never the less, I hope S7 or somebody can make about a dozen more CATS.  But then again, can S7 match MATTEL's quality?


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on October 13, 2017, 07:36:12 pm
I often wonder about these kind of decisions. Isn't some money better than no money?

Not when you think the license is going to be so mishandled that it hurts future chances at money via a new film or another company at a later date.  What's odd here is you can get Thundercats in 13" scale, Dorbz, Pops, and Vynl - but not good ol' action figures.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on October 13, 2017, 08:31:45 pm
Perhaps they don't want the Orgers to attach themselves to the property.  Too late skippy.  [slapfight] 

Imagine He-Man without the acrimony.    [banghead]


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on October 15, 2017, 12:47:34 am
What's odd here is you can get Thundercats in 13" scale, Dorbz, Pops, and Vynl - but not good ol' action figures.

[exactly]   [banghead]   [gah]



Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: powersthatbe on February 17, 2018, 11:23:26 am
Well Funkonis doing thunder cats in vintage he man style


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on February 17, 2018, 11:41:05 am
I just saw that. 

It's probably better that they do something rather  than S7. 


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Titansfan on February 18, 2018, 11:12:38 am
Those look horrible.   Pass


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: powersthatbe on August 25, 2018, 11:23:55 am
Thundercats back from Mattel?they showed Grune and Jaga figures at this weekends power con.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on August 25, 2018, 03:52:14 pm
Looks like they were showing off the unused prototypes, probably to gauge interest in a resurgence.  I would love it if Mattel finished off the main group somehow.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: fishmilkshake on August 25, 2018, 07:08:14 pm
Looks like they were showing off the unused prototypes, probably to gauge interest in a resurgence.  I would love it if Mattel finished off the main group somehow.

Puhleeze let it be so!!


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: powersthatbe on August 25, 2018, 07:43:33 pm
also,Mattel seems to be doing he-man stuff again,but the classics line still at super7.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 27, 2018, 01:37:41 pm
I always wanted JAGA and GRUNE.  I hope these happen, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.  There are too many "if's" and "maybe's".

Have you guys read the short article about these over on TOYNEWSI.com?  The guy raises a lot of good points.  I hope this happens, but I'm afraid of them being 50 bucks a piece, or only being available in big multi-packs that are over a hundred.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Chooch on August 27, 2018, 02:54:44 pm
A Mattel rep saying the burden is on the collectors is exactly the wrong way to go about this.  I get that it's probably a low-level employee hoping to drum up interest to get his bosses to pull the trigger, but blaming fans never wins them.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Boy Wonder on August 27, 2018, 04:24:41 pm
I’d be happy to get Jaga and Grune and realize they were already sculpted, but they don’t bring us closer to what I consider the essential remaining characters.


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Non-Chick Magnet on August 27, 2018, 04:31:23 pm
Well said, CHOOCH.  That is exactly what I meant!  If you watch the video, you can actually see Pixel Dan change facial expressions when Brandon says that.  I could be wrong, but I think it actually shocked him a little.

It's hard to be positive. [think]


Title: Re: Thundercats (Mattel)
Post by: Gardner Grayle on August 27, 2018, 05:46:58 pm
IMHO, this is the ultimate dick move. 

Without the Toys R Us, Mattycollector.com, the online Mattel Shops and the Mattel eBay store, they have no way to distribute these pieces even if they can find enough people to buy them.  My best guess is that these would be a GameStop exclusive.  I've no interest in these but probably have at least 30 GameStops in my area.  But what if you live in Montana?

Or maybe that dumb twat at Super Seven can blow some more smoke up his own ass.