Action Figure Blues Forum

I just realised we don't have a dedicated thread.

Anyhoo, here's a couple of DCUC leftovers that are now in Matty's "Infernal Crisis" sub.

http://www.actionfigurepics.com/2012/10/nycc-2012-additions-to-the-mattel-dc-universe-booth-instapics?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+actionfigurepics+%28ActionFigurePics.com%29

Can someone tell me who that is after Marvel Jr? Looks like Red Hood, but I don't recognize the costume. I like Marvel Jr; but I am glad that I didn't get The Watchmen sub :-\

I think it is Red Hood in a one-off costume, the head looks weird. From a design point the costume doesn't look too bad.

Yup. He wore it a couple of times in the Batman & Robin comic when Morrison was writing it. That's all it takes to get an action figure these days apparently.

Well, I think I'll be selling mine off if this is being offered in the sub. I tell you, everytime I cut them some slack they disappoint. And I'm usually the voice of reason when it comes to most toy companies [gah]

OK, thanks to someone over at AFT I found out that isn't Red Hood, but Mr. Toxic (http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Toxic). Who apparently is going to be a villain in the new 52 Universe(If not already). I'm really hoping he looks closer to the picture below by the time it is mailed out to me. If not, Matty's going to have big brass balls to ask me to take a 3rd leap of faith with another sub [cursing]

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5qdzbK5uz1qjcq1co1_500.jpg)

Finally!   [hi5]

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f265/fishmilkshake/News/DC-Club-Infinite-Earths-Huntress.jpg)

Cool, also a really good custom base!

Thank you for posting that picture of Huntress. Really can't wait to hear the complaints about this not being peoples choice of Huntress though ::)

Oh don't worry it's started. Someone elsewhere has already noted that if it's the "Hush" Huntress her belt is wrong.  :D

Really? ::)

More like :o

That bow looks awesome.

First off - that's not Mr Toxic - it's Morrison's Red Hood from Batman & Robin as per the pic on the right:

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2009/11/theredhood.jpg)

Secondly - for CM Jr and Huntress I can tolerate a bone to MA Collectors.  [thumbs up]

Well he's had at least two appearances in that costume and was in a comic by Grant Morrison so of course he deserves an action figure.

It's Over-Excited Dog-man!

Hehehehe, lipstick man!

Yeah, someone else pointed that out on AFT. Sorry about that, shit happens. Lets hope that the other person was correct that this "might" be part of the upcoming Batman line? Like you, I'm digging the other two, but not as forgiving if they waste another slot.

Red Hood or "Penis-Head" is confirmed as being in the 2013 sub.

That was my joke!  [cursing]  ;)

Like I said, another wasted slot for me. That's 3 figures I could give two shits about so far. I'm digging The Huntress and Jr. figures, but c'mon Matty, really [cuckoo] Matty is really going to need to up their game next year if they are going to continue with the sub's.


Guess you better be quicker on the punchline next time [beer]

 [whistle]

That was my joke!  [cursing]  ;)
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Guess you better be quicker on the punchline next time [beer]
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Listen to the next episode of the AFB Podcast and you'll hear where it came from. (I'll give you a hint - IT WAS ME!!!)

 [popcorn] I definitely need to do that. You guys are on iTunes right? Maybe I'll start at the end and work myself back to the first one.

I think this is why we're all suspicious that the sub figures are just from canceled DCUC waves and Batman: Legacy lines.
There's a lot of Bat villains and the assorted rainbow lanterns certainly give the theory some weight.

I received my Poison Ivy and Elasti-Girl yesterday yesterday, but didn't open it until today. I know it looks like Ivy has a flesh tone foot(I double checked), but it is the green and not major issues with her. Unfortunately Elasti-Girl has some issues thanks to doing a porn shoot before getting delivered to my house. She's got some nice glue splotches on her face, boob and around her waist. So now I had to give DR a call and I'm scratching my head on what good they actually do since they have no real authority on what they can do. Apparently they want me to send her back before I receive the replacement figure. Now if it was anybody but them and Matty I might let it slide, but EG is already showing almost gone on the site and who knows when I'll hear from the expedite team via e-mail. This shouldn't be a big deal. "Yes sir, we'll send out your replacement figure. Along with a shipping label to send out the defective product.", BAM!! Done. I don't know, I'm definitely getting a "Shame on me" vibe lately when it comes to the sub.


(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul20.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul21.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul23.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul25.jpg)

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul24.jpg)

Ahhh....jeez. That's pretty poor Don. I think this will be a test of the return system for more than just you. As an international it's worry that something like this will happen to me.

Then again, I'm still waiting on Black Mask.

I've heard that from the UK members too. They still haven't gotten theirs either. Here's my experience so far. Called and spoke to DR rep and was told that I needed to return item before they would issue a replacement. Ask to speak to supervisor, told them I didn't have a problem with returning once I received replacement. I told them this was especially important since they weren't guaranteeing that I'd actually getting the product. A little back and forth and they forwarded information to escalation dept. Before I hung up I did ask what was the point of having a customer service number if they can't actually help me directly. I received a e-mail from the ED and they are preparing my figure for shipping and in a separate e-mail a return label to return the defective figure. Honestly, I didn't expect to hear from anyone and it is basically a automated one. Once I receive the item I will return the defective one. Wish me luck that this one doesn't have an issue.

...at least you don't have to pay for return shipping either.

I hear you on the shipping and agree. I think if they had ask me to send it on my dime I might have gone sideways. What do you guys do when this type of thing happens? It has to suck. Wish me luck. My replacement figure went out today.

Received my replacement today. She's not perfect, but she's better than the first one. Overall pretty happy, as I think she's a great looking figure. Here's the pics of her. Debating on when I'm going to mail off the replacement. Weather has been a little funky and trying to set up a pick up is a bitch for some reason.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul28.jpg) (http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/The-Donster/Toy%20Haul/ToyHaul27.jpg)

Nice one Don!

Hey Guys,

     What's the holy grails of DCUC?



    Since I am new to it but getting them quickly not going to collect them all. An example would be like in the ML Dragon Man, F4 classics kang, F4 Classics Sue both version, F4 movie Annilhus (saw this at k-mart at one point said to myself WTF not in the movie so I passed on him).

Thanks

lol I thought it was Giganta ,I am starting completed from series 1 to 4 nearly 5 and 6 with the c&c

A few of the C&Cs are big bucks like Grundy.

I think that a lot of the unique figures from the 2-packs like Lightray are some of the expensive ones.

B'wanna Beast & Animal Man.

I could take it in loose as I do not have much space but pm me for prices and does anyone have the left arm of kalibak I just need that to complete him?

Got my Planet X (or Zen en arrgh ) and he is amazing. straight out of the pages of RIP which i loved. Quite impressed with the amount of tooling thats gone into him (THERE is a BAT-RADIA on his belt!. Batmight is great and baseball bat is a nice add in. a must for any modern batman fan!

Which one is this? Any pics? Sounds fun! Never got a Bat-Mite....

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=planet+x+batman+figure&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&tbo=d&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=bhwiUc2tB4fylAXX9IGQBQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1111&bih=639#imgrc=_

No luck putting a pic up so heres a link instead!

I am a loose collector now so i take them out of the box as having no space. Does anyone think that Rocket Red comes apart quickly?

I feel like its a c&c my parts keep coming out.

If you don't wear pants, there's nothing for your parts to fall out of though...

I hate stupid pants

Received my Phantom Stranger the other day. Pretty happy with this figure at a glance. I can take pictures of him if you'd like. Kind of regretting not picking up Jitsu and Ram from the MOTU line, but the price is once again a factor for me.

I'm really hoping they do another run of Ram Man.

Fish do you have a DC sub ? cause if he turns up he will be early access only, if not i'll happly try to get him for people here and ship him out at cost.

Yeah I do, thanks. I was gonna get up on the day of release but it equates to 3am here in Oz and I just couldn't be arsed.....and missed out.

Got my Wally West flash today, got me thinking how close we are to a JLA by morrison team (and yet not close...

Superman Long haired / electric blue we got. Wally West flash we are getting got, Batman black with yellow symbol we got, basic wonder woman works fine (although new corset would work better i doubt matty would risk the release just for that) basic Martain manhunter works fine.

Needed
First appearance Kyle Rayner (considering they do every other possible lantern character this aint a stretch )

Peter David style Aquaman ( Aquaman is hot right now, plus its a different enough variant from the already over used orange look in this line )

Done! (for the original team)
expanded roster we have Plastic man and Orioin

Needed
Aztek ( obscure but great character, easy to make with simple buck
Zurial (obscure character once again but can be done with buck reuse for the most part)
Connor Hawke Green Arrow ( easy buck reuse plus green arrow in public eye right now)

Plus now that Super powers line up is nearly all made this could be the start of doing a Total Justice Wave!!!

Hope Matty nocitces this to

Can anyone link me where you can get the subscription for the figures?

GABS1977 there is only a two week window in which you can sub to the DC subscription over a matty, its around the same time as san diego for the next year. you can still buy most of the figures though,

1) monthly figures are mostly released DOS at matty , minus the subscription exclusive figure (Metron, Mallah )

2) you can find them cheap from factory workers selling them on ebay,

hope that helps !

I'm not an 'era' guy so don't really need to build Morrison's JLA, I just want Zauriel and Aztek because they're cool characters.

No love for connor hawke  :'(

Got New 52 hawkman and flash from melbourne shopping the other day

also got metron super cheap from a factory seller in china, i didn't really need the chair (even less for the extra $80 it would cost)

or you can get the dc direct metron which I think has a better scuplt.

Already got that one too :D

Oh yeah, Connor is cool too  ;D

I'm just not an 'era' builder. I quite like the DCUC Zatanna so I have no need for a Satellite era Zatanna, etc.

So the Batman Unlimited line is getting a 6" beware the batman figure? think mattel can do other media? maybe a "Arrow " hood figure?

We got Smallville figures, so they may not be Mattel, but someone might do them. Thought the lack of any kind of costumes (or lame ones that we do get) might be toy restrictive.

true but i wouldn't mind a Hood or Dead shot

Speaking of mixed media in this line I also just ordered an injustice Batman, one cause i am a sucker for batman variants. two cause while i am not a fan i get the feeling these might be better in hand. going to wait till i see bats before i commit to the rest

It's interesting the way people collect so differently. I have the original DCSH Batman in my DCUC display and have absolutely no further need for another Batman figure.

Although not a great lover of the variant figures, If there is a significant costume change then I will consider purchasing a variant as such I have no "Film" Batman costumes only comic variations.

Got myself a few figures today, knocking off some of my most wanted for the line for $20 at a comic store today

Deadshot (chemo wave)
Atom (Metallo WV)
and Captain Atom (Kingdom Come/WIldstorm varient Despero Wave) 

Also nearly completed Despero just need the leg that came with ares (though i brought him loose early on, hope i can find another )

Nice pick-up. Don't forget to start/update your want list

I must do an overhaul of my list too. I must be down to just 3-4 DCUC figs now.

Got my injustice batman today, its actually a nice figure, more in common with the movie masters, there is some really nice paint work on it, mix of metal greys and blues that are well shown in promo shots, articulation is weird, no bicept joint but two knee cuts, ...not horrible just different ...

Heh! I laughed at that last comment.

yeah felt weird to type, the batman is not bad figure to own (accept for you shake since he is a variant of a character i will just assume you have  ;) )

but i will still be catious going forward with more of these ...

Not sure if this is bad news for the Mattel subscriptions -

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2013/04/04/2013-subscriptions-re-openingavailable-from-415-430/

You can jump on board and get the rest of the year subscriptions later this month.

Not so much the variant....but that it's a reminder of the incomprehensible Batman stories that Morrison wrote.


I'd be interested to see how many takers they get. The Black Freighter one is tempting...though I think I like the idea of having the figures more than I actually like Watchmen.

Oh i missed this when i posted in other thread.

1) its great news for anyone who didn't sub but now can/wants too

but

2) its bad news for "Day of sale" (DOS) customers, Toy guru came out today on the COuncil of the first ones he-man podcast and said the stock for these subs is coming out of the day of sale quoter. ie fast sell outs the more of these subs sold, the subs have a limit of the lowest produced item (i am guessing FFM for motu)

Big rumour (from a guy i know who is conected to a guy who knows the horsemen)* is that 2014 will basically be "Sub only", to me this move is cutting back on as much day of sale stock as possible so people are "inspired" to sub for 14.

Toyguru also stated in the same podcast the DCIC will have figures later this year with no DOS stock

So now DC fans will absolutely have no choice but to subscribe to products sight unseen in order to get them?

Sounds like a great idea for a business model*cough netossa cough cough f#*king cough*

Shake: yes, or go through factory friends like i tend to with this line.

Niteowl: in all fairness Netossa was revealed before the sub went on sale for MOTU , but i know what your saying.

I Like it for the Motu line cause i am 99% down with everything in the line and there is only a limited stick of characters so you have a good idea of whats coming, dc is diffrerent and i imagine has more cherry pickers and could be infinte character possiblities and more like to be given characters you don't wont or don't know then a motu would,

to be honest the rumour of sub only i got from my mate is more in relation to Motu, dc has diffrent contracts and needs to meet different targets (its how the DC sub moves through because they know different people buy different DC figures day of sale, where as Motu its the same people buying figures just in different numbers depending on said figure, hence why dc can survive with lower sub but motu won't )

I was fine with the first DC sub because I considered it a reasonable cost per figure. Now that the price has gone up (both per figure and shipping) I'm not as thrilled at the idea of Saint Walker, etc. SDCC '13 will be interesting.

when is 60's batmobile meant to hit?

August was a date I have in my head but I could be wrong.....its happened once before.

Remember it's a TRU exclusive too.

Sweet i hope so, as i mentioned in other thread i am hitting up the states and don't trust aussie T,R,US . hoping i can grab some over there

Obviously they produced the figure before they knew how many sub take-ups they'd have  ;)

I've wondered about Matty's reluctance to go "back to press" on some items they know will sell. Ram Man and the Legion set come to mind.

OK, so if this was actually the line-up I'm not interested in anyone besides Ice, Doc Magnus and possibly Weather Wizard... Happy for the guys that are putting together a JSA display though.

I'm still holding up for a Ray action figure... But that is not going to happen any time soon I think...

Nicely done Hyp.

Does Doc Magnus fulfill both the suit and the civilian?

If Doc were not a choice, I think the civilian will be Comm Gordon using the Constantine buck, and the suit will be President Luthor.

Weather Wizard, Terry and Rick are great additions.

Aqualad, Mon-El and Miss Martian are fine.

Vice can fuck off.

Well it looks like he has a face designed specifically for that very purpose.

Guarantee me a Doomsady unleashed and I'm in.

Fine. I'm in.

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2013/08/16/2014-club-infinite-earths-dcu-damian-wayne-is-coming/

I wonder what logistics had to be worked out to include a figure that was already tooled and ready to go  [think]

All moot now as it looks like it's officially dead.

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2013/08/20/update-final-count-for-2014-subscriptions-and-ecto-1-pre-order/

Bummer for some.

I kind of wish it was a clean kill. Instead, there's stuff like this:

If anyone is throwing a hissy fit over uncompleted teams and the like and selling their collections in a huff, let me know as there's still a couple of figs I need.

Who are you looking for?

Got the DC unlimited vampire batman at mid town comics today

Just the hassle figures like Lobo, Gleek, Non-armoured Lex and Steel.

No doubles of those, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Interesting. I suppose Lobo was a hassle for me, but my bigger hassles were Black cowled DCSH Batman, nekkid Cheetah and the Lightray/Orion 2 pack.

Lobo is around, but for an unnecessarily oversized figure I don't feel the need to pay a lot for him. More the completist in me.

He was at a local Comic Shop for a long while, but those guys also gouge people. So I felt accomplished when I got him for $20 less on ebay.

the figure Gold for me...the rest above got Steel for $4 and Lobo for $30...from a friend that does not want them anymore.

FYI for all those who did sub:

Bummer.

Makes me wonder how Domsday would go just sold on the Matty website?

Kind of a shame they are gone but I didn't sub so it's my fault really.

So would you like to know what the complete 2014 sub would have been or would you rather not know?

Well since the sub is dead, I'd rather they be up front about shoe horning in BatZarro
and Shizzy-Fo-Nizzle-Zam from dead retail lines.

To be honest, I wish they could swap out Ice and Hookquaman for Batzarro and Ra's in 2013.

Ra's looks ugly and I could always grab the Trinity version.

I still want Ice, but my DCD version is fine. Same with the Hush Ra's.


I'm happy to know what could have been.

Means I'll stay away from them when doing customs in case they do come out.

FYI I got an official refund email for the whole amount today. Not sure if it's reflected in my statement yet though.

It looks like the people who got 400 different "authorization failed" emails are getting as many refunds though. I got one of those and a single refund amount.

Others have been saying they are getting the refund in "installments." Pretty stupid.

Yah, I got two as well. Not sure if that means I'll get $35 or $70?

I got 6 emails for varying amounts. Came to $45 even in the end. Weird.

anyone see DC collectibles is stepping up to fill the void left by DCUC with articulated figures

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=21020

Too bad it's the wrong scale.  ::)

It's the right scale if you're starting a whole new DC collection! O0

I thought exactly the same thing when I saw those. 

$25 a pop.

The price is fine with me, I just hate that they're about an inch too big.

And I'd rather not know what we are missing in not getting the sub. KNowing the few we know already sucks.

http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/9231079938

FUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK YYYYYYOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! 

Its classic Matty folks.  ALL our fault.  Not enough people collect DC.  Not people don't want any more suit bucks and boring sculpts of the blandest possible characters.  Its that not enough people collect DC. 

Sean is a little bitch, just like TG......who's answer to everything  is "check out our awesome Total Heroes line".   ::)  What a fucking joke they've become. 


http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3441044647/m/3541022048

Great example.  Avoid the topic, deny that Hydron gets fully tooled while we couldn't get a DC figure that had more than 3 colors on it, and plug the bullshit of Total Heroes.  Great job!   [moon]

I love and hate DC equally.  [banghead]

I wonder if there will be Total Heroes rainbow lanterns and super powers figures?

I know you're not super familiar with this but that's called "reality". It's not super hard to understand that the line underperformed and got axed. To think that a line that was dedicated to covering the entire DCU as comprehensively as possible would come close to comparing to Star Wars levels of potential is crazy.

Good words Gad - and also, we have to face facts that there isn't the same pool of collectors as there are for some of these larger brands.

Comparing MOTUC or Star Wars to DCUC and expecting the same level of tooling, etc, is ignoring facts. Plain and simple.

I disagree that there are more MotU fans than there are DCU fans.  They are simply more fanatical, devoted and somewhat more unified than we DC are.  They will spend money on characters they don't want to get the ones they do.  There are also several other venues for DC merch.  MotU basically has one option.

I'm fairly sure MotUC would have failed at big box retail.

Yeah, there's a finite amount of figures that can be made with those brands. People are ravenous for more. They'll buy the band. They'll buy an alien that had no lines and 20 seconds of screen time. They'll buy three versions of Boba Fett who was actually a relatively small character. But imagine if Star Wars did Boba Fetts grand daughter from the books. Imagine if they had done Talon Karde (comparable to say, Vigilante) while still waiting on Ben Kenobi (Martian Manhunter).

Whereas in the DCUC line, it's totally different. There are people who love Batman but barely know who Green Lantern is. Let alone the four or five earth Green Lanterns and the Golden Age original.

The distinction I made is "collectors", not "fans". To work, DCUC needed all-in collectors and there aren't the same number of people who will buy "anything".

An important distinction.

Do you guys think Marvel Legends collectors are less divided then DCUC collectors?

Or is that an unfair comparison as the line is technically still at retail in various forms?

When Hasbro made the late 2012 and releases of 2013.I went to Dcuc then Motuc, its dead to me and I am only after a couple of new releases.

It's possible.  Marvel didn't really take off until the 60's whereas DC fans were clamoring for variations back to the 30's.

That's not the point.  Your telling me that the line died because collectors just decided to stop buying them for no reason?  They started to give us lower quality product at higher price.  THATS THE POINT!  It is not the fans fault, its Mattys.  That too, is reality.  

I think at least in terms of price point and quality the two lines are equitable. This is why I would groan everytime Toyguru compared the $22-$25 price point of the "Infernal Crisis" figures as being about the same as retail. Sure the Hasbro Star Wars line has a SRP of $19.99, but I can get a Batman Unlimited SRP for $15.99 and a Marvel Legends for SRP of $14.99. And then thinking about accessories, BAF parts, etc you are paying a dollar less for MORE content at retail. $7 to $10 more at Club prices. I think it's more than a mere all-in customer that Mattel needed.

Matty's perfect customer for DCUC!
(http://preparingyourfamily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Hear-No-Evil-See-No-Evil-Speak-No-Evil.jpg)

His tantrums are irregular.  ;D

Remember that Marvel Legends were cancelled once before. The strength of its' return was twofold, the first was that fans bitched they wanted them back and then had to put up or shut up, the second is leading with two superb B.A.F that almost everybody wanted. There were enough figs in those waves to get a collector like me to buy them all, and enough IronSpiderCapVerines to make it work at retail.

I have noticed no quality difference since the earliest of DCUC figures.. DCSH had great original sculpts, and a few DCUC figures were in that catagory like Ares and Demon hit that level but for the most part we saw consistency.

I do agree that price was probably the main factor in the line dying, but that's not "Mattel's fault". They are a business with a profit margin. As forwhy we got higher prices? Well, that's sort of been the case with everything. Star Wars figures were, what? Six bucks back when DCUC hit? And then you'd see them on sale for much lower. They're almost double that now.

And Marvel's small scale sells for what DCSH figures went for.

Chinese labor and petroleum based material has all gotten more expensive.

Got my 66 batman case 1 today. Some great stuff , so hope this line has a future ...

Also got some of the last dcuc figs
Beware the batman and injustice green lantern

Reduced articulation but enjoyable figures none the less

I'm curious just how many collectors consider price to be the main issue? For me, I wasn't thrilled at the costs rising, but I would have happily paid if the character selection was there.

Character selection is the problem. But it's a tricky one to solve . Everyone has a different opinion on who should be made and despite what us fans think they can't just make anyone , the amount of sculpting and which version play a factor. I know people say we should poll which characters get made but that is also flawed , figure budgeting comes in to play , this character needs less sculpting so this one can has a little more and so on.

With motu folks are less picky as they have a rougher idea of who is coming and what version . DC is so big and so generational it's impossible to please everyone

This is why I think a poll was necessary. Mattel didn't need to list every character, but they could have put together a pretty good list of 60 or so characters that required basic tooling to assess where fan wants lie.

Yep.  Captain Atom could be repainted to Johnny Quick.  No real need for a new head either.  Lots of stuff like that.

FMS, I think price made the selection more critical. People would have had less problem buying figures that may not have been perfect (Rocket Red) or that they did not necessarily want (Batzarro) or that were not the exact version that made the most sense (Red Hood) had they been cheaper. But at 30+ bucks a figure with shipping, it's tough to justify that cost even with great figures of characters you love for a lot of people.

I think it is possible that Mattel will revisit 6-inch DC figures eventually.

I wouldn't mind seeing something called an Essentials line to fill in the gaps with iconic representations of characters. As much as I love my blue camo Aquaman, he is definitely not an essential. Neither is Batzarro, Morrison's Red Hood or Johns' Rocket Red -- or any of the Justice League dressed up as Green Lanterns.

I have a feeling DC creators (especially Johns) pushed that direction -- and we paid the price.

I got the 66 Batmobile today. I am not going to lie. For all the crap I have given Mattel about the Super Powers minority guys they did in wave 18, this thing makes me want the Super Friends Batmobile worse than pretty much any toy out there right now. I'd happily pay them a hundred bucks for a re-release of Batman and Robin with cloth capes and a car as well done as this 66 one.

Sadly, I really feel like the Batman figure turned out horrible for the 66 line, so I won't be getting B&R to go with the car.

I hope you are right about that.  [innocent]

And personally, I think it was both character selection and rising prices that put the axe to the line.  Like you guys have said...there are simply too many characters to figure out who gets made.  Total no-win situation.

That's great to hear (the car not the figs). Still waiting to see if it turns up locally.


I would have been fine with cheap turd figures or paying more for figures I really want like well done Rogues. But not the combination of expensive turds.

 [exactly]

You have MOTU fans that buy multiple versions of every single character, if you can believe what people say on the ORG.  Many of those guys are total fanatics/completionists that will not even sell figures that they HATE because they want a complete collection.

I would recommend going here http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=20500956&csm=476672511&csc=2908242&csa=478757601&csu=2908244 and having them email you when it's back in stock. That's what I did last time it sold out.

It was going to be 13 bucks for shipping or free with a purchase over 80 so I added a Star Wars Black figure effectively meaning I got R2D2 for 7 bucks. (This is how you logicafy the R2D2  to your significant other. Or house plant. Because apparently some of you here are super close to your plants.)

Overall, for how many years have we had DCSH/DCUC/etc, and how many figures were made? And what beats it?

2006-2013
200+
Marvel Legends

You think Marvel Legends has made more individual characters? know they have put shit tons of figures out, but half of them seem like they were Iron Man. Lol

I wasn't sure what the conditions were?  ;D

But for me, Marvel Legends is my line simply because of my greater affinity for the Marvel Universe.

As for numbers, if you include multiple Iron Mans, spin off series like the FF (Ronan) series, recent Iron Man legends and boxed sets, etc, then I have roughly 280+ figs.

There's no 2014 sub because the 2013 sub was like paying a scalper to get front row tickets for INXS and then finding out you're seeing Air Supply instead. 

It sounded like I was arguing the point when I was truley asking out of ignorance. I never followed Marvel or their figures too much so I was sincerely asking. The Iron Man comment was an add on because it seems like that one character has been half the toy isle for five years.

DCUC did do a great job of making a lot of individual characters. Sure, we got plenty of Batmen and a few Supermen, and an odd amount of Hal Jordan's for a guy who's costume has bareley changed since introduction, but it doesn't seem as prevalent as Captain America, Wolverine, and Ironman redos.

But, you have to incorporate that Marvel made a lot of movies, so eventually they have spin-off lines and so more figures. DC we got only Superman,GL, Batman + others like Watchmen live action movies.I am going include He-man as DCUC as the comics are DC.

Successful spin-off line Arkham Asylum ...

Let's face it guys: DCUC had a fantastic run and we got a ton of great, mostly consistent figures.  But MARVEL fans have it much, much better than us.  Ten years from now, HASBRO ( or whoever ) will still be pumping out figures.  It doesn't mean many of them will be Classic, or that any of us would even want them, but between movie deals and being backed by Disney, MARVEL figures aren't disappearing anytime soon.

Well that's it isn't it? Marvel fans will get more figures while DC fans will get nothing  :(

DC will be lurking and hoping for any kind of scraps, while Marvel fans await truly classic characters like Batroc, Blizzard and Radioactive Man.

The nice thing about Marvel as far as I can tell is that the various movies, classic, and modern are all the same scale. Whereas Mattel made movie stuff smaller and the Arkham stuff larger.

They would have been so much smarter to work Young Justice characters into the DCUC in comic book styling while having a Young Justice line in the smaller scale. Speedy, Blaqualad, Tee shirt Superboy, Miss Martian, Impulse, and so many others would have been popular amongst many fans and they may have gotten past the half dozen mark.

Oh yeah, and I would have happily bought Major Force, Banshee, Brimstone, a bulkier Superman, and Classic Black Lightning in DCUC style.

Putting aside the usual downfalls of Marvel Legends, articulation translating into fugly sculpts, infamously fugly females, figures can't stand/fall like dominos,
I never see any DCUC threads/folks constantly clamoring for an updated version of character XYZ. If Marvel Legends is so great, shouldn't they be happy with the 400+ figures they have?  Not trying to start crap, as I collect both lines now...but it seems more common for Marvel Legends fans to ask for newer versions of characters b/c they either feel the Toy Biz version doesn't hold up or they have some glaring issue with the Hasbro one.

I know you guys mention the scale of the Wreckers on the podcast, and there are seriously people out there asking for re-do's (like that'll ever happen).

For me personally now, DCUC figures have had way less QC issues in terms of breakage, paint and hopeless warping. Yes, most have the same buck, but I never hear the DCUC guys saying, "Man so and so's buck/figure is awful can we get a new Quicksilver, Captain America, Skarr, Hulk, Spider-Man, Daredevil, etc" To be fair I've left out infamous ones like Scarlett Witch, Toad or Magneto. And to be clear, this isn't people asking for a new costume, they seriously want an upgrade on an existing costumed figure. Usually with the "hot" buck of the week. "I want Daredevil on the new Panther buck!" "I want Quicksilver on the Archangel buck!"

DCUC figures can stand up properly. DCUC guys don't fall over and knock over every other figure on the shelf. You can adjust their poses while they are standing (I now realize this is a huge thing with me) versus having to pick them up and snap whatever POA is refusing to budge because of snap-ticulation.

The main benefit from the increased articulation that I have come to appreciate is the neck-tilting and double knee joints. While I still think they make the aesthetic of the figure unappealing, they help with flying poses that can certainly look better than any DCUC figure. Of course, I see folks yelling about the aesthetic of the round pegs on the arms and legs of DCUC which has never bothered me, so to each their own of course. I ended up being a completest for DCUC, but I really can't see myself ever buying Stevie Wonder Daredevil (this is what I call the maskless Face-Off version).   

I've really no dog in this fight as I don't collect MLs and have bought very few over the years.  But I was a huge BA Marvel fan.  This whole thing with the Wrecking Crew scale bugs the shit out of me.  This version is based on their appearance in Iron Fist #15 in the late 70's.  It's an absolutely acceptable version and would be my preferred version if I collected this line.  [cursing]

I find my Marvel Legends collection to be very unsatisfying as a whole.  It's the same problem I had with DCD figures.  Some are gems, some are "meh", and some are crap.  I can't even put a Fantastic Four together that I'm truly happy with, much less the Avengers or the X-Men.

I am enjoying the RoML though.  Even though there's some crossover, I now look at it as a separate line for building the contemporary Marvel Universe.  Although the scale is all over the place, the overall quality is pretty consistent, so they make for a much more cohesive display.

I had the same issue with DCD that I do with ML.  DCUC is what I'm looking for in a comic accurate line.  When I put a DCUC display together of the Satellite Era JLA, they actually look like they came from the same line.

I'm with Xavion. Truth be told, my want list includes more Marvel than DC. Legion evens it out a bit -- unless you include Marvel's version of the Legion -- the Imperial Guard -- and I actually would buy that entire team -- if they were down 70s style.

But I've largely been disappointed with Marvel Legends from way. Often when they do a 2nd or 3rd tier character, they fuck it up -- choosing to invest all of the time and energy into the umpteenth version of an A-list character. An example is the beatiful blue-flamed Ghost Rider and  modern Thor -- and the crappy versions of Klaw and Constrictor.

Diversity aint' that great. All of these years later, and I still can't assemble the full X-Men team that appeared in G.S. X-Men #1.

Marvel Legends is a line with tremendous potential, and every once in a while they actually produced a top-notch figure or two. But there has been more disappointment than satisfaction in the line.

Thing is, Marvel isn't really broken up by eras.  Most of it flows from FF #1 to last weeks releases.  Although Marvel does have a sliding timeline and a couple of glitchess (No more Mutants/One more Day), it is a more unified, organic feel.  DC is defined by it's eras.  Or errors.

Actually, the number is closer to 340-360ish, if you add in everything-- DCSH, DCUC, DCIE, Young Justice, Public Enemies, Green Lantern Classics, DC & Bats Unlimited, Batman Legacy, and the Watchmen sub. Even if you don't count the 2 toon-related lines (and who isn't displaying the PE Brimstone, hmm?) the total is still well over 300.

The reason for the variance in the potential number is how closely you want to count repaints (e.g. Alex Ross-style All-Star shiny Flash vs. original wave 7 release) or pack-in characters (such as Doll Man, Brain, Bat-Mite). Pretty impressive no matter how you slice it.

Also, you know what else is a DCUC figure, though hasn't been acknowledged is such? Last year's DKR Movie Masters Catwoman. She's a standard DCUC buck.

All the Movie Masters figures should have been in scale with DCUC.

I'm getting Batroc. That is all.

So I messed up when I moved and put an extra zero in my zip code when updating my address with Matty.  I had to go through a bunch of rigmarole, multiple phone calls, emails, and website updates with Matty/DR to get my stuff last month.  This month?  They updated my billing address, but not my shipping address.  Sigh.

Sounds about right. I'm kind of glad they're dumb. I'm thinking I'll cancel my card so Batzarro isn't the final figure I get from them.

 :D

And now I've had 9 hours of "Payment Authorization Failed" when trying to get the non-subscriber item.  I tried multiple cards, multiple addresses, multiple computers, multiple browsers, multiple messages to Matty and still nothing.

It seems that several people had a lot of trouble today with that same issue. I got lucky and placed and order for Huntress and Batros with no problems.  [runaway]

I'm glad you did!  I know I've been a wet blanket about this, I just needed to vent to folks that would understand.

Wow, whilst I was bitching I got an email from Matty.  They gave me directions on how to complete the order (because I clearly hadn't filled everything out correctly), but the prompt they said I would get didn't happen.  Imagine that.  I do have a status of REQUISITION_HOLD_FRAUD_ERROR though.

Oh dear.

 [gah]

As of now, there are 27 Huntress and 2104 Batros figures remaining in stock.

That emoticon is spectacular.

Also, how do you know this?  Magic?

It's the cart trick. From JediJones @ Fwoosh:

That's voodoo.  Also, several more email exchanges with Matty later where they gave me a bunch of ways of fulfilling my original order, I was able to put in a whole new one.  That only took 12 hours!

Glad you got one through before they sold out!  [yess]

Thanks for the pep talk throughout Jase.   [thumbs up]

A little of both.

For characters, I'm missing Polaris and Thunderbird. For versions, I need classic Sunfire (seems more likely as that version is appearing in Uncanny Avengers) and FA Storm. Wouldn't say no to a GOOD Banshee to replace the earlier suckass version.

That is pretty crazy, KC.  I didn't realize that.

That's why I love the 90s GIANT SIZED X-MEN box set, but of course, that's no help when you want the figs in 6" scale.

Got Huntress today.  I give it a D.  It just looks cheap.  I hate all of you who voted for the stupid fucking Question back when we would have gotten a GOOD Huntress!   [runaway]

And no post is complete without...... [moon]

One more thing.  I think its hilarious that Huntress sold out first this month.  Just goes to show that their is PLENTY of customers for mediocre figures of good DC characters. 

and  [moon]

Selling out first means nothing unless you know what the production numbers are.

What's bad about her? (I don't get mine for about 2 weeks depending on the ocean currents)

Sure, but you're a damn fool if you think the numbers differ from figure to figure.  Example, you explain to me how it makes any sense whatsoever for Matty to make less Two Bads.  Putting him up for day of sale is one thing, but to make LESS of a desirable character they are sure to sell?  Uh huh....I buy that.   ::)

She just looks cheap.  The plastic looks cheap, her blank facial expression is cheap, she has no neck, her crossbow is pathetic.  It cheap, plain and simple.

Of course the production numbers differ from figure to figure.  Common sense man.  [cuckoo]

Just curious - do you piss in your own Cheerios every morning?

Nice write-up Hyp.

I've got the Hush version in my display at the moment and since she's not prominantly visible on the shelves I'll have the luxury of choosing which I prefer.

If you can, I'd recommend hunting down the Hush Huntress from DCD. What the figure lacks in articulation, it makes up for in sculpt and over all aesthetics. I see they are releasing a Hush 3-pack with Nightwing, Ivy and anothe figure. So maybe they'll release another 3-pack that includes Huntress.

Oh, and DCD's Ivy was nicer than DCUC's. Shame they couldn't do something original and produced a regular skinned Ivy.

I wish I could do that.  The DCD scale is just a little to off for me to display the regular sized figs with DCUC.  I currently have a DCD Despero, Arkham Croc, and Arkham Freeze displayed with the, and it looks alright. 

You're right though....those 2 figs are pretty awesome.



Can't tell if you're being serious. 

the only real issue i have with the huntress figure is i don't like the eyes

I don't think the Hush figures are off-scale as much as the waves that followed. Maybe someone has done a comparison between the DCUC and DCD versions online?

eBay pics of Ocean Master:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290979455052

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/jasetraber/OM1_zps70407c2d.jpg)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/jasetraber/OM2_zpsa52b2fe2.jpg)

That cape is sensational  :D

If the top of that cape was folded down, it would be just like a 70's collar!  O0

It's a cool looking figure, but I just can't wrap myself around that color scheme.  I'm usually pretty flexible on classic vs modern when modern has become just as iconic, but I don't think I've ever seen him without the purple color scheme (like the DCD version).

Hmmm..... That cape gives me an idea. I might need 2 now.  [thumbs up]

Also, I received Huntress today.  I'm as disappointed with her headsculpt as I was with Cap Jr. Very soft for a Horsemen sculpt. I think they might've been going for a smirk on Jr, but it was a miss. Huntress makes it 2 straight imho.  :(

I think that I'm going to just display Ocean Master battling with the camo blue Aquaman.

Not bad at all, but if I ever buy OCEAN MASTER, I will probably buy the HISTORY OF THE DC UNIVERSE version.

Who would have ever thought there would be two OCEAN MASTERS??  [yess]

True, but isn't the HOTDCU one gigantic comparatively in scale?

You are correct, but I do like that particular buck.  For the most part, I guess I've given up on scale, and am just happy if a particular character actually gets made, period.

I would be happy to sell you mine if you're in the US. Wish that one was this scale but I'll take the proper size over the slightly better version.

Ocean Master has had several costumes with slight differences and I'm perfectly happy with this one. It is a weird color but I like how the purple stands out.

That's me as well -- mostly because I don't display figures -- and if I even do, it won't be a massive display. Despite the bulk, I like the DCD Ocean Master -- and much prefer that color scheme over the shitty version Mattel selected.

Maybe we'll hear something new next week?

So tired of him talking out his ass.  There are supposedly several completed prototypes scattered between the 4H studios and Mattel HQ.  That of course doesn't mean they've been tooled, but that could be the next step.  Offer the stuff online like you did with JLU you tools.

Carded/boxed hook Aquaman:


http://youtu.be/kqz3Yug36VA (http://youtu.be/kqz3Yug36VA)

I still can't get them over putting out a Blank Buck for Total Heroes as a Fan's Choice Possibility.....

It's a totally different market and was fan demanded by a core group of eight year old collectors discussing their DC action figure collections around the sandpit.

Factory versions of Aquaman are showing up on ebay.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mattle-DC-universe-DCU-Signature-Collection-AQUAMAN-Figure-PROTOTYPE-free-shippi-/00/s/NTAwWDM3NQ==/z/NRMAAOxyFjNSSjfq/$T2eC16R,!%294FIZ+!4gc6BSSjfptMFg~~60_12.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mattle-DC-universe-DCU-Signature-Collection-AQUAMAN-Figure-PROTOTYPE-free-shippi-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/stAAAOxyAs9STDrb/$T2eC16RHJHkFFlob+K-RBSTDr,%29f,Q~~60_57.JPG)

I'm not sure if I should be hunting a listing down or expecting a proper release announcement at NY.

Hmmm.....

What did you search? I need one of these now.

Our old buddy JSay just wet himself.

Oh boy.

As pleased as I am to see Aquaman - the OCD part of me REALLY wants to see Ice.

The DCD Aquaman would have served me in this one's absence.

But still - it gives me hope.

Good thinking.  [thumbs up]

Are you guys still finding it? I am not seeing any.

Somebody on Fwoosh said they bought the "last one" for $105. But I imagine there could be more factory escapees.

Also, I'm hoping maybe they'll will say something at NYCC next weekend.

$105??

Wonder if he subbed?

Pretty sure he did. He admitted it was foolish, but I guess he really wanted to be sure he got it.

To complete my DCUC collection I spent some "foolish" money on nekkid Cheetah and some of the early DCSH like "no teeth" Batman, Two-Face and Catwoman.

Only thing I got a little sick from spending on was the Soul of Chokogin Raideen. I got the GX-41S from Mandrake Japan. For the size of the item (not all the extra crap it comes with, just the robot) it made me feel a little silly.

Though it feels like all the Marvel Legends stuff I buy have been "foolish" prices compare to what the SRP was 5 to 8 years ago when they were actually released. But compared to $20 Toys R Us Legends prices, some of my buys have been better than or about the same as.

I believe this was rodkeith, actually.  He had multiple subs.  :)

He's a keenster.

I think the most I've paid for a DCUC figure is about $70 for Brimstone as a part of an eight figure buy.

Holy shit. That's some serious dough.

I'll just keep hoping Ice, Aquaman, and Robin make it some way, somehow.

At Power-Con, in the 4H panel, they seemed fairly confident that the '14 figs already shown will make it out.  Not that the 4H are the final word or anything, but I came away feeling relatively hopeful. 

Which was especially needed after hearing one idiot ask them if they were "relieved" that DCIE was cancelled.  It was like a ten sentence question where in the middle it seemed like maybe he was figuring out that none of them were liking the question and 2-3 of the Horsemen were actively hostile, but then somehow he wound up back at "relieved" by the end of it.  Good god. 

Other info that may be of interest.  I spoke briefly with Cornboy after the panel and he said several times that Legionnares were on the Sub schedule but fell out.  And that Dawnstar wouldn't be too tough to make.  I asked about a lot of new tooling and he said something like "not really".  So that was nice to hear, at least if they ever make more of these. 

That's pretty cool. Thanks for the info  [thumbs up]

Since I'm new here, I'll say it again...

I would have gladly paid Watchmen sub prices for a Legion sub. Frankly, with the morts I needed to buy in the main sub, my "per figure" price would probably have been cheaper.

Amen, amen, amen.....

You guys are making me sad. No Mon-El.  [violin]

Nice one Zeek.

I agree on the Legion sub, but then again, it was never about the cost for me. Give me unique, well done figures I can add to my universe and I'm sold.

You're welcome, glad I could be of help. 

Meanwhile, I did mention to Cornboy that I wish Mattel had tried a Legion sub in the same way as Motuc, but was very clear I knew he had no hand in that decision and then left after a quick thanks.  I'm sure they get bothered or asked questions by tons of people and didn't want to give a bad impression.

Rod is definitely keen.

As for how much we've spent on figs, I joined the mess just before wave 10 hit. I spent almost $60 on ebay for a Robotman, as I live in Canada and thought the odds were slim of me driving over the border and finding one. Within 4 weeks of my doing that, every single mess member had one purchased for them by someone. It's good to be back on a board again, as experiences like that made collecting more fun.

Me neither, but we're the lucky ones. Hell I even subbed for 2014, even though I didn't want any of the 4 figs shown. (At least not badly. They were all valid, just not my cup of tea)

Yeah, I was in for Ice.....but it was really Doomsday that I wanted  :'(

So did Legion fall out of the 2014 plan as well? What a bunch of shit!  That makes me think that a female Legionnaire was probably among the "quite a few, actually" female figures we were supposed to get this year -- instead of the two they ended up doing instead.

The sub made a lot of promises, but rarely delivered.

If any of you are wanting the Batman Unlimited Vampire Batman, Amazon has him in stock now (Prime eligible), for $15.99:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BIAC2RU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


ETA: They also have Beware The Batman for $15.99.

Thanks Jase. Grabbed both on my phone just now.

I've had several opportunities to leave him on the pegs. Taken each one.

 [beer]

I bought Vamp Bats, but decided against Beware Bats. I've only seen one episode of the toon and while I enjoyed it, the figure just isn't for me (reminds me of the JLU figures). Glad you were able to order them!

Some of you bought that loser ass cartoony Batman they put out?  Seriously?  You spend really money and everything?   [thumbs down]

I feel like it's a lie that Marvel figures cost $20-$22.

End of the road.

Did they say what Doomsday would cost? $40? $45?

Well other than the random scramble of day-of, it's pretty good news all things considered.

I'm listening to the AFI interview. It appears that the figures will cost more than they would have -- had the entire year's worth been made. But it will probably vary by figure. Aquaman required a lot of tooling -- and being that he's a main character, I'd guess he'll be able to swing the additional cost. If they try to sale Ice and more than $30, may take a long time for it to sell through.

It's an interesting interview. At the end of the day, the cost of plastic is what really killed the sub. Okay, there were other issues that contributed to its failure -- but cost is the core problem.

On the other hand, I'm not sure where all of the fans were calling for Blackest Night figures. I guess there were some, but it just goes to show that classic trumps flavor of the day. There is a reason things are called classic -- it means they remain popular or, at least, familiar as years go by. Being that the BN wave failed -- only a year or so after the comic series ended shows why they were naive to do that wave.

Inteview gets cut off as they discuss the Legion set. Yes, it sold out quickly. It did make money, but it was the investment of time that made them not do another. Seems a shame -- especially as the packaging is done, and I do think there were enough popular characters left in which they could do another set of 12 figures. But, guess I'll have to be grateful for what I did get. Would I have purchased the set -- knowing that I would still be missing at least half of the team and nearly all of the females? Yeah. Actually, that's one reason I bitched so much when the set was announced. You just don't know what the future holds -- and it's better to make a more balanced offer early on than to make promises on which you will never deliver (something matty did quite often with DCUC).

So....there's not enough interest in the figures to carry a sub......so they shit on us by releasing one as an SDCC exclusive....thus ruling out 90% of the potential buying market?

That's allways been kind of a hallmark of the various DC lines.  DCC or Mattel.  They piss on us and then tell us it's a warm summer rain.  Even when things were going well.

Look at all that extra tooled stuff

http://toynewsi.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=2013_NYCC%2FMattel%2FDC&pic=IMG_5876.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0&sl=21207

The Doomsday card says its $35.

All whinging aside, those Total Heroes are really fun looking packages. Kids should love those, but if they don't hit regular retail shelves they can get fucked.

Wow to all the extra tooling!
It actually looks like a fun kids line, if they make it to Oz I will pick up some for my 6 yr old son.

Supporting the enemy line to benefit your son over your fellow collectors in mourning. I'm so disappointed in you.

Obviously it contributed, but it was more than that.

I am lucky enough to be able to afford a sub with out having to think twice. However, I was so tempted not to, because of character selection, shipping costs, digital river, and more.

I just got huntress today, one month after it was shipped. For that privilege, I paid $13.75 on a 25 dollar figure.

LAst month I bought a $250 pair of headphones and it cost me $9 to have it here in two days.

Plastic was a factor, but plastic cost didn't stop me from subbing. Lots of other reasons almost kept me away.

That said, I did dub to keep it going. But it was done with a sense of resentment. Who wants to feel that while enjoying their hobby?

Eggszakery.

How is it that I buy hardcovers from thebookdepository and they ship for free? Digital River shipping is also just so freakin' slow.

I'm excited for Aquaman, Superboy and Ice.

Aquaman is the only "must" for me. I wonder if Doomsday will be available for early access sales for the MOTU sub-holders?

They a
They're all available early access.

This is Matty we're talking about.   [whistle]

That Superboy is laughable.  It looks NOTHING like him. I guess all the effort went into Hyrdon that day.   ::)

Anyway, I'm officially done. No good Doomsday, no Maniac!  They've insulted me as a DC fan for long enough, and that containments suit bullshit is the last I will suffer.  They can keep their last 4 scraps.  They don't finish my collection, so I don't need them.   

Have fun selling that Total Loss line you Matty assholes.....for both waves of it before retail cancels your product AGAIN!. 

Yeah, back in 2009, when I had a different job and the White Screen of Death was going full force, it was impossible for me to be at the computer at 9:00 AM PST.  Some companies like to have meetings then. 

But TG doesn't care and there's nothing we can do.  At least now many items last for awhile, when they do have DOS. 

Funny because I remember some people on another board saying how they would buy any DCUC to support the line ... but when the Legion 12-pack came out they didn't buy it. Not that it mattered since it sold out anyway, I'm sure with the help of non-collector Legion fans who came out to buy it.

And after that I heard all too often that Legion fans had nothing to complain about because we got a whole 12-pack!

Found an exclusive Target imaginext Hal and B'dg set. However, it's really just the Ch'p figure from the playset. Wanted this for a while.

I thought it would be a little poseable, but it's just a PVC basically.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/DSC_0575.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/DSC_0575.jpg.html)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/DSC_0576-1.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/DSC_0576-1.jpg.html)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/DSC_0577-1.jpg) (http://s1088.photobucket.com/user/dwcrabbe/media/DSC_0577-1.jpg.html)

I'm surprised that they don't think they could make Unleashed Doomsday work as a MattyCollector sale item? There must be a lot of people who wanted that figure that couldn't commit to the sub.

there was still plenty SDCC items left for DOS this year after early access for subbers, only items to sell out early access have been MOTU items

Damien will be the hardest to get. Ice and Hook Hand Aquaman won't be a problem, each appealing to niche groups of fans. Tough to guess on Superboy. Not that great of a figure and being outdated as a costume may disinterest some.

I don't think Matty will offer Aquaman, Ice, Superboy, and Robin during early access. Doomsday however, will be.

I am not sure how paint apps work for these figures, but is it likely that there is some sort of pre-set deal for the S shield? I am always annoyed with how small it is on Superman, and it's kind of small here. Looks almost exactly the same size as Supermans.

As for the head, I am wanting to see it in person to judge it. It almost looks like the ears are too big, but it's not horrible.

The big thing that I am wondering about is how big it will be. A lot of people are saying it will be too big, but I wouldn't be angry if that was the case. I could display it with my giant ass Red Robin with this book in the back ground.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6800000/Red-Robin-and-Superboy-tim-drake-6840609-1031-1566.jpg)

No chance of getting a real Teen Titans group together so I would be happy with that.

any none sub items go up for early access  any items thats part of a sub does not. since these ain't part of a sub anymore id say the will be going up on early access 

I also subbed -- not based on the figures announced -- they were solid, but lacking a wow factor. I was hoping for some good stuff later in the year, but my hopes would probably have been dashed.

I think, though, that the cost of plastic is what killed the figures at retail -- thus making a sub necessary. The sub could have been handled better -- but there seemed to be external (and internal) forces at work that made the offerings less than they should have been.

I'm in the "wait and see" mode in terms of action figures.  I have high hopes and low expectations for Dynamite Toys.  Some cool six inch stuff might get me back in the game.

In terms of DC/Mattel, I truly believe that 2014 ain't the end.  Dunno why I think that, I just do.  A few years downtime on the property might very well revive interest when all we get from DCC is nU and video game figures.  Can't say I'll be there when/if it happens, but I hope it does.

Well if Gard positively holds out hope then there must be a glorious age just around the corner!!  ;D

Just the lesson of Mavel Legends.  It's never quite "dead".  ;)

I thought the lesson there was "The re-animated corpse is never quite the same."   ;D

You may be right about that.

Pimpin' 70's Ocean Master came in the mail today.

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He looks great in that pic! Point for that. Thanks!

I am pretty happy with him. Compared him to my DCD version and this one is much better. I think the one thing I liked better about DCD was the sea shell belt buckle, but I am not sure what is comic accurate at which points for the character. DCD's seems to be from a slightly different costume.

Oh and I opened Huntress today, too. People are out of their mind for complaining about that figure. They dumped a ton of resources into that one and getting it right. It reminded me of the quality of a DC Super Heroes attention to detail from back in the day.

And once again Matty fucks up the scale.

That was quick

 :D

I got my Ocean Master today as well.  I'm still not crazy about the color scheme they decided to go with, but he's one of the better sub figures we've gotten this year.

I don't have much history with the character. Is the colour scheme reflective of the character at some point in his comic career?

I would say it goes with hook hand Aquaman the best.

http://www.aquamanshrine.net/2009/01/aquaman-vol6-67-may-2000.html

Anyone else notice on back of box is a code for aquaman #14 new 52 digital comic? How long have they been doing this???

Just started. I think we should all use it to try and support Matty figure. If DC has a bunch of digital downloads off this maybe they'll take notice and it'll help us get some more figs.

Also, I would totally take a new 52 Black Manta. I love that redesign.

Ocean Master came sailing in today! I haven't unboxed him yet, but he looks great in the box!  [thumbs up]

Isn't that more of a tweak than a redesign?

Are these 6-inch DCD for Earth 2?

Spoiler warning if you're reading Earth 2. Looks like Batman II's identity is revealed in the write up. On display are Wonder Woman, Alan Scott, Jay Garrick and Batman II.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/10/11/dc-comics-seemingly-spoils-the-identity-of-earth-2-batman-in-action-figure-tweet/

6.75 I believe.

"The identity of Earth-2′s Batman is something that’s been a subject of furious speculation and debate"

Yeah.

I'm sure it has.

I'll have to consider adding Alan Scott to my Green Lantern shelf, where he'll be "Anonymous Blond Humanoid Green Lantern"

Fixed that for you. You want to keep your publicity stunts in order.

If you would call the Batman, Superman, or Flash costumes redesigns, then it would be appropriate to call this one too.

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Same colors but I like that they added the scaled armor like Aquaman has, I like the silver instead of gold, and I like the general aesthetics of the costume way more than any of the others. The chin spike is the only miss in an otherwise perfect design, and even that Ivan Reis manages to make look pretty okay.

Of the above, I only thought the Superman outfit was a major overhaul -- and not in a good way.

Wait a sec! That's Ocean Master in the pic above! I thought you were referring to Black Manta -- who really looks the same as he ever did -- except for some nu52 seams.

Sorry. Villain mixup. Yeah black manta was mercifully spared any reboot costume butchery.

As a wee lad I always used to wonder why he used to wear the Legion of Doom headquarters on his head  ???

I always wondered why did the legion of doom HQ was a giant darth vader head?

Ice, Ice, baby is on eBay for $17.99 Yankee Dollars with free shipping.   Just do a search for "DC Universe Ice".  As seems to be the norm now,  the final sculpt is lacking,  but I'm still happy that she's on her way.

Looks decent.

thanks for the heads up.  Ice is on the way for me too.

Can't believe she's lasted this long.  The guy had something like 28 of them, but I would think that a character that has...

A) often finished in the top ten in fan polls
B) is needed to complete the Fire and Ice duo
C) was in danger of not being released at all
D) isn't due out for another 8 months
E) could be sold out durning early access
F) has no missing accessories
G) is at least $20 cheaper shipped than the official version...and that's just in the U.S.

...would sell like hot cakes.  People jumped ship on this line in a hurry.

WTF happened to her face?

I got mine. Point to Xavion for the heads up.

Got what was listed as the 'last one' late last night.  Guess more fell off the truck.   [thumbs up]

Damn. Totally missed this. Hopefully that means it was produced and I will get it eventually.

Apparently Hookquaman was up for less than 14 shipped at some point.

Yeah,

I got one for 13.99! That's about what I pay for shipping to Mattel.

Oh, and the shipping from China is free and it actually arrives faster. I'm still waiting for Ocean Master.

I am really bummed out now. Jesus.

Ice showed up on Saturday.  Opened her up this afternoon.  Nice clean apps, face looks better than the pic indicated.  A nice pickup for the price.

Ice in the house!

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Wow... The hair looks pretty bad...

It was the 80's, man! 8)

She looks like Melanie Ackerman (sp?) from Trophy Wife (and Watchmen).

Looks great to me.  Can't wait till mine shows up.

Got my Ice today.  Quite pleased.    :)

Got my Ocean Master and I'm pretty happy. Nice to see a fig with a bit of tooling.

R'as al Ghul arrived Saturday. I still haven't opened the box. The excitement is gone :(

I got Ice and R'as al Ghul today. R'as looks much better in hand.

I think that some of the stuff that was planned is somewhat possible, so anybody think HOURMAN could happen?  I don't think he was planned, but he was predicted along  with AQUALAD.  Both could be made with existing bucks/parts.

Then again, maybe I'm just fooling myself.  [think]

Nailed it!

I wondered where I'd seen that face?

I can understand that.  In a perfect world, we would get both.

After 12 fucking days, I finally got Ras.  What a piece of shit.  Good thing they made all that loser ass Supercrap while this line had a decent budget.   ::) 

Since this is the last figure in the line I will open, I can now reflect.  I regret that I started collecting this line.  It is woefully incomplete, turned into seriously cheap shit towards the end, and wasn't worth all the trouble and money I spent. 

And I cannot express how pissed I am about Doomsday.  He should have been made in wave 2.  And instead they fuck us out a decent figure or an important character.  Fuck you Mattel!

I think that's Jersey's way of expressing indifference.

I totally agree with everything but this part:


It definitely didn't end well, but I still love the line as a whole.  It helps tremendously that neither Doomsday or Granny were all that important to me though.

Really? The impression that I got was, despite a strong argument of solid pros and cons he was still on the fence?

I'd be okay with either. Aqualad was still wearing the trunks as a young adult -- Perez era Titans. But I don't see any new 6-inchers coming from Mattel in the near future.

While I am disappointed how the line is ending, and strongly feel the holes in my collection, if you had shown me a pic of all the figures in the line before day one and said "This is all you are going to get" I would have dived in head first, giggling away.

Sorry for the extremely long sentence.

Agreed.

Scored a movie masters green lantern "green man " who was a Matty website exclusive, but I got him at a toy world here in oz for $12 !

Yep.  That would have seemed impossible back then.

Nice.

Pretty decent figure.

I would have been in shock. I was hoping for five or six waves and a decent representation of the Satellite Era JLA.  Zatanna is a good example of a character that I thought would be on the bubble.  "Maybe...just maybe...if she has some fans among the decision makers and the line lasts long enough, we *might* get a Zatanna."

Needless to say, we went well beyond Zatanna.  Ironically, it was my other favorite DC character, Huntress, that I thought had a better chance than any other female outside of Wonder Woman at the outset that almost didn't make it.

You know it's quite telling that the nu 52 Shazam is on sale on Matty and has been for days without selling out.

Can you imagine that happening with leftovers from any other SDCC exclusive?

people blame a lot of things for the death of DCUC but nothing and I mean nothing contributed more to it than DC's reboot

to play devils advocate ...
Swamp thing and plastic man both did it , (not sure how wonder twins went at the time ) and lobo wasn't created in quantities for other markets other than SDCC attendees
We also didn't have one last year so there is no telling how the reduction of the line reflected people buying these over a two year gap

Just got hook hand aquaman. It's the best figure they've put out in quite awhile. He was very low on my list and I still excited now that I have him.

Still a WTF? figure for me. I know people get wood over the idea of completing a Morrison JLA, but the first Arthur we got was fine for me.

That's how I felt until I got him in hand.

I actually don't!  It would cost WAY too much, and don't think I could live knowing someone had it, and I didn't

Fair enough.

I got hook hand Aquaman today, great figure!

Dammit! I must live at the ass end of the postal world.

I hate all of you who managed to get Hook Hand. If anyone is disapointed in it or realizes they do not want it, please PM me. Thanks!

Those finding Hook Aquaman, was this an 'overseas seller' or did I miss sale day?

Overseas seller for me, $14.99 US shipped.

Yes, overseas at a huge discount! Faster and free shipping too!

Well Batzarro is in the mail according to the email I just got. What a lousy way to end the sub.

Of course, I'm still waiting for Ra's to arrive. So I should see old Batty around late January.

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/dc-collectibles-solicitations-for-items-in-stores-june-2014/

Cheap month for me.

I think I want the Earth 2 figures. But that Rabbit Arkham Batman pisses me off. What a stupid figure.

I wish DCD/DCC was producing figures of this calibre (in terms of articulation and overall execution, not just sculpts) BEFORE the New 52.

The figures are really nice, but most of these new 52 designs do nothing for me.

Batzarro arrived today. I don't really know what to say. It's not a bad figure but it's lacklustre and not the greatest characters selection for a premium series. It would be great as the obligatory Bat-character in a DCUC wave or rotated around in Batman Unlimited or whatever ... but as an example of what the Club Infinite Earths / Signature Collection offered ... just a poor choice. I look at this figure and think how sad it is that next year's subscription would have included more Legionnaires ...

Wait, they took the Ed McG Superman figure you can get for Fifty cents at any LCS and... made it a statue?

They just announced an E-2 Hawkgirl as well. 

She looks pretty cool. I'm hoping this means that we'll be able to get a complete team.

If nothing else, she'll be great custom fodder.

Dawnstar?

Guys, I know I missed the boat on Aquaman, but PLEASE if you see Damien show up from a overseas seller, hook me up. Those are two huge wants and I am hoping not to miss out on Robin like I did Aquaman. I am not on ebay so I don't have that option but I would be happy to reimburse you plus a bit more if you could keep me in mind and it was less than 25. You don't even have to ask. Thanks!

I am on the yogurt shoppe facebook thing so if it happens and I am not on here, post there and I will see it.

Here is a link to hook hand Aquaman...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Mattle-DC-universe-DCU-Signature-Collection-AQUAMAN-Figure-RARE-/201003640824?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item2eccc027f8

Here's butt ugly Superboy...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=291041531637&globalID=EBAY-US

Perfect buck for an update to my Badger.

LURCH!

They made a Bigfoot Silva figure?

http://alvgear.com/image/data/Antonio-Bigfoot-Silva-UFC-146-weigh-478x270.jpg

;D

.."Jinkiees, What HAppened to His Head?!?"

I wouldn't pay 12 cents for that piece of shit.  That is the most mailed in, half assed head sculpt of all time. 

What about 11 cents?

Maybe not the place for this, but I saw the first wave of the DC Multiverse 4" figures at a comic/toy show today.  Not sure how much the guy wanted, but are these being spotted at retail anywhere?

Actually I saw them marked waaaay down at my Target. They were $2.98 a piece and lumped in with the marked down Avengers 5POA Crap. Obviously a mistake, but they've been out there.

Weird.  What was the original price on them if you remember?

I'm not sure. I heard another story where they did not have the item in the computer so the cashier made up a price.

On Amazon they are $8.99, so I'd imagine around that point or a few bucks more is the SRP.

This happens at my TRU all the time. They put the stock out before it's entered into the computer. Didn't think it'd be that hard to remember the order to do things.

Just saw them at Target today.  The toy aisles are a mess, so I didn't see a price.

Have a pic you can share for scale purposes?  I want the figure but have been very undecided on it.

And that's why he'll stay far away from my collection.  That stuff just bugs me way too much

would make a good iron munroe

Wow! It's like a competition to see who's the biggest turd.

That's what I'm going to make out of mine. Believe it or not in the early stages of this costume design there was apparently going to be some connection between the characters.

Why did they stop manufacturing white jeans? Oh, and are black jeans back in style? Saw some when I was doing my X-mas shopping.

Were they ever in style?

I suppose emo's keep the brand alive.

I'm sure Levi's still make white jeans, I used to wear them all the time and have seen them at surplus stores. Surprisingly they always stayed white!

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Yeah, but if he cops grief about his fashion choices he can tell people to go fuck themselves.

And they will!
 jaw_drop jaw_drop

Superboy is garbage.

Ice looks cool. Enough. I do not have an ebay account so hoping it will stay up long enough for a friend to buy one tomorrow and I can give him the money.

I really don't like how Superboy came out, but I need one down the road for the collection.  Could be worse.

Not much. I was okay with him being over sized because I figured if nothing else it could go with the huge ass Red Robin they made but it's just not a great figure. The head is weird (huge ears, big eyebrows, and he looks really old.), his skin is way too dark, the previously mentioned size is an issue, they used the same tiny S shield that hurts the Superman figures, but it looks even more undersized on this, the collar on his tee shirt is really wide, no wrist band, and I think its a pass for me. Have a friend ordering Ice, who I am unsure of the head sculpt on, but I need) and Aquaman, who looks perfect and I hope will arrive free of any QC problems.

That jeans and tee shirt Superboy was a horrible design. While I liked the character, I never liked the look so I am okay with not having it. If I had a shot at getting more Teen Titans from this modern era that would be cool but since they're dead and not getting made, I don't care.

Now if I can score Damien, I will be a happy guy.

And if they eventually put out those Doomsdays and I can get those, I will be elated.

Finally got my Batzarro. Wow! Just so underwhelming.

Never opened mine either.

Speaking of 'zarros, if anyone has and is tired of their light blue Bizarro or Superman I'm in the market for them :-)

Gotta love ToyGuru throwing in several jabs at the collectors for not continuing to support a line that was only becoming shittier and more expensive and then try to drum up excitement for a horrible retail line.  Oh, do keep pushing that containment suit Doomsday that helped kill the sub as your SDCC exclusive.  Fucking Mattel.

Alright, time to start up the guessing game contest.

What's the final figure going to be?

Will they spend money on tooling? Or will they cheap out?

Regular or oversized?

What are you guys thinking?

Dawnstar.

I'm not even going to try and guess because I simply don't have a fuck to give anymore.

"2014 is dawning and it’s a great time to be a DC collector on Mattycollector.com!"

Seriously? Seriously? Are you on fucking crack?

A line beloved by so many is dying, replaced with a line collectors don't care about and the remaining figures are $25 each. With international shipping and the exchange rate I'm looking at $44 for a 6" toy.

Shove it up your ass.

 [applause]



It'd be nice if the "surprise" was Johnny Thunder/Thunderbolt, I mean I know technically you'd need a classic Mister Terrific, but he would at least round off the JSA.

Carolina blue Supes.

Every time I see a leaked one of those that somebody got, it makes me feel like the version I have is no good.  [violin]

I would think it's the Super Powers 3pack that people have been speculating about forever.

And yeah, I wish I'd gotten the light blue Superman and Bizarro :(

Of course it's a great time to be a DC collector on Mattycollector.com! You can buy $25, $50 or $100 Matty Money gift certificates to spend on ...

... Flying Stands  :(

I accidently reported someone for spam on this thread. I meant to report Toy Guru.

I forwarded it accordingly.

Fuck                                    You                             Mattel! 

That will be all

oh wait.    [moon]

ok, now i'm done

Hey guys! I think I fixed Superboy!

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Love it :)

Point!

 [applause]

Well done.

Reading this latest pitch from Toy Guru is like bumping into an ex-girlfriend that acts like you just split up yesterday when you've been over it for years and you're so in love with someone else that you can barely even remember the time when you were with her.

We've moved on, TG.  You might want to think about moving on too.

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/mattel-video-pre-new-york-toy-fair-update-dc-figure-availability-tf14/

Carolina Blue Superman pretty much confirmed.  Or maybe a red herring?

What is it about Scott's face that just makes me want to curse?

Lol!   [applause]

AH, Toy "Guru", he always manages to fuck something up a little. For me, this time, didn't even have to do with toys but when he says stuff like "All of your favorite fan press will be there, we've talk to all our favorite fan sites and all the actual media".

Actual media?

Dude, not only fan press is also actual media, but they are the ones that are mostly showing news of your very niche based toys show some respect and say "other media".

Good points.

Where was the "real" media when they should have been pimping their DCUC sub?

Can we unsticky this thread now?

Nah, we're still hatin' Mattel, we can unsticky it when it stops being funny  ;D

But that was almost a year ago.

http://news.mattycollector.com/blog/2014/02/16/2014-toy-fair-reveals-straight-from-the-action-in-new-york/#more-3568

[size=18]FUCK YOU MATTEL!!!!!!!pt[/size]

Top dollar for a bunch of fucking repaints?  Yea right!  And more Super Crap to boot.  What a fucking joke.  I'm selling my classics.  I don't even want to look at them anymore.  They have completely disgraced the line that was once my favorite.  What a bunch of fucking assholes!

I probably won't be happy when I find out the price, but as a long-time fan of Super Powers, I'm pretty pleased with this turn of events.

You're seriously going to pay money for the Green Lantern Riddler?  Really?  Seriously???????

I love Super Powers and this is great by me. The Super Powers Kalibak was one of my biggest "wants."

I don't mean to come off as confrontational by mentioning this, but from an outsiders perspective, I've heard you (let's be generous and say) be unhappy with the nu52 comics as a whole. I've seen you write about the nu52 DC Collectibles new product reveals disparagingly. I suppose I could chalk that up to pure love of classic DC Comics. But then this gets Mattel a "Fuck you"? Seems a little extreme, unless it's all in good fun.

A Johnny Thunder would have been nice.

Maybe Mxy is just a pack-in with one of the Supermen, like the K-Mart Bat-Mite?

Makes sense to me. [thumbs up]

So the piece must come in a little baggie.

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 :D :D :D  I feel a "special sale" for these coming in the next year or 2. 

They don't have a fucking chance at selling them at that price.  Or any price. 

Nah, Jersey likes gettin' his hate on  :D

To be fair though....as many people on this forum are DC diehards and couldn't give a crap about Super Powers, it's a bit of a kick in the nuts.

No big deal then I guess. Just offering a take from someone who I guess overheard the middle of a conversation is all.

As far as a kick in the nuts, I guess that's weird to me. I would say I'm a DC Die Hard who grew up on Super Powers. And I would imagine Scotty is fairly similar to myself. I don't see Super Powers or even nu52 as these mutually exclusive things. DC is DC to me.

I posted these to share with friends who are much in the same vein and the only thing that was really balked at (fair enough) was the price point.

I would imagine in ToyGuru's mind this line-up of repaints is in the vein of his "altered road map" for MOTUC.

I mean I could sit here and whine about no Rima or no Wendy, Marvin and Wonder Dog or personal fan favorites being left out of a send off, but to me I was thinking we'd get one last figure. Instead we get 7 and the Kalibak was one of my major BAF wants that I'd thought I'd never see.

I almost want to buy these directly from Matty collector. Almost.  ;)

Yeah... This is super stupid to me... I'm not sure they'll sell a bunch of repaints and when they don't it's all going to be the fans fault for not doing their part.

I like Super Powers, but franlky, my dear? I don't give a fuck about these...

See, Dozy... Hatin' on Mattel is never not entertaining...

 ;D

That Kalibak looks nothing like the SP Kalibak.

Who was the guy that always bitched about the Kalibak we got?  He's going to explode.

Hate to admit it, but I really do want the standard and gold Superman from that line.  The rest of it can burn in hell.

I did:

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Honestly, I can't think of a more fitting way to send off the line than one last pathetetic cash grab at the expense of lifelong Super Powers fans.  I don't happen to be one, so I could care less either way, but to trot out something that obviously took no thought or effort whatsoever and then have the gall to ask $30 plus shipping per figure makes me glad that better men than I stood up for themselves and put an end to this crap by refusing to buy a subscription this year.

I would get all of these and hang them carded on my wall, but not for that price. They should've just put them out packaged that way at retail to begin with, maybe a Target exclusive or something.

Exactly.  They won't produce anything anymore without a built in nostalgia fanbase a la MotU.  No way were we ever gonna get GA Mr. Terrific. 

Degra.

And yet, "2014 is a great year to be a DC Collector!"  ::)  What DC are they talking about?? 

-Dog Collars?
-Dead Cows?
-Damaged Circuits?
-Dinosaur Cocks?
-Damaged Cuckolds?
-Davy Crockets? 

He's fine and happy with these.

Somebody's buying that shit. It's weird, but there's a whole other bunch of people, and they're buying that shit all up. Gimmick covers work. Jim Lee art works. Didio's editorial decisions are working from the only point of view that matters to his masters: financially.

How's that for depressing?

Very. Dido is to DC what Miley Cyrus is to her record company.

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Making a bunch of money for them while putting him/her on the line and probably ruining his/her career for the future?

Yeah, I can see that...

Even the totally off-model Kalibak?

Oh why, oh why can't we get a brown Grodd too?  ::)

I'll try and get Mxy via one of those Chinese ebay sellers. Matty is not getting a cent from me.

I don't recall any negative comments.

For me, it was between nothing and a repaint. I'll take a repaint from a dead line and be happy and surprised.

THIS

"Wrecking Ball" indeed.

Well it sounds like he's only buying the trinity repaints and Mxy. So maybe he's not happy with it? He'll have most of the parts to build one if he wants.

If it's this or nothing, I'll take this. No, they could not have done one last wave with just a few new sculpts -- that was the subscription that no one bought. No guaranteed money flow means no new figures.

I won't call it a hurrah, but one last wave of figures for a niche fan subset, overpriced by necessity, that no one "needs". It's fine.

At least there's no Captain El Rey. 

Fuck you Chip.  ;)

A Carolina Blue Superman is hard to resist, but they aren't making it easy.

I'm pretty sure I'll bite the bullet to get Mxy, and may get Carolina as well. I'd be easier if they came out the same month to help with shipping, but of course thats not the case.

On a related note, I'm still looking for the Carolina Blue Bizarro if anyone disgusted with their DCUC collection wants to get rid of it :)

I call dibs on any discarded 30 inch Anti Monitors. ;D

I still need Lobo  [thumbs up]

Tangential comment: Lobo was the craziest get ever for me. Traded with John Moores and through a nearly impossible to believe series of trips back and forth between countries Stray Cat Blues ended up with it and got it to me. I honestly thought it wasn't ever going to come. Took about a year and a half.

You know what? For all my anger about the Super Friends minority guys and Golden Pharaoh I have to say, this is an appropriate way to wrap it up. This line was a fantastic representation of the DC Universe but it was always obviously a love letter to the Super Powers line with many of the people involved and most of the collectors having had a part of their childhood and fandom influenced by the cartoon and toy line.

The price is shockingly high. I thought when people mentioned 30 bucks they were including shipping and tax but these will be totally 45+ dollars. That's insane. Mr. M especially is hard to justify that price for even if the head sculpt is fantastic. It would be cool it had two bodies or something but as a tiny statue? Wow.

If money was not an issue I would likely get most of them (Trinity and Mr. M. No gold supes) twice. Probably one of the only toys I would ever want to keep carded because of the feels that packing gives me.

And while some people complain about the Hal/Riddler thing, I think it's fantastic. This line was about diving deep. It is what got Kamandi in a Wal-Mart. Bat-Mite at K-Mart. Etrigan to start the line and Fire and Ice closing it out. This Super Amigo thing is funny and exactly the kind of fun, fan-centric nod that made this line great.

With all the nU stuff, can we really complain that they took one more swing with classics?

This is probably the most fitting, laughable ending to the line I could imagine.  A couple figures people actually wanted, some figures that no one asked for, all done on the super cheap and at the most ridiculous price point imaginable.

"Riddler" is such a waste of time and production costs.  Mxy is neat... for a pack in.  Not for a $30 stand alone figure.  Gold Superman and Kalibak might have been neat as an exclusive a couple years ago.  Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman all should have been at retail years ago.  At least Wonder Woman is finally getting rereleased for people who don't have her and we're finally getting a proper Superman that will match in color to Superboy, Eradicator, etc (I have a China light blue Supes and he's too light, IMO).

Instead of Gold Supes and Diddler we should have gotten modern Red Tornado and pretty much ANYTHING else.

I'll just get Superman and Mxy from China.  Fuck this line.

 :D

And these last two posts are what i love about this hobby and this forum.

If the 'Mess hadn't died when it did, I'm sure this announcement would have caused a meltdown with all the opinions and assorted rages that would have gone on.

Hey Matty , how about this instead?

We all just buy the fucking Super Powers Kalibak, Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman figures, They would cost the same...

Heh, good point.

Ha. I agree with every single thing on this page.

^That seems impossible. ^

As for how this would have played out on CM? Here's the Mess thread about this.

Gard: *Posted first because he always beats me to the punch. Follows with question to generate discussion*  ???

Gad:  [dunno]

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing]

Degra:  [yess]


Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing]

Moores: (something with a gorilla)

EvilFred'swife:  [crazy]

Degra:

           Quote: Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing]

 [moon]

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing] [cursing]
Scot:  [tap]

Chooch:  [rock] (Chooch rocks. Get it?)

Fuckwhitmcforumruiner:  [cursing] [cursing] [cursing][cursing]

Degra and Fuckwhitmcforumruiner for ten more pages

 [slapfight]

The entire Critical Mess:  [runaway]





AFB:  [beer] We got koalas or some shit.

That's fucking awesome.

Now, can we stop talking about how this is better than the mess, and just BE better than the mess? OK? Good.

Sounds about right.  [thumbs up]

Subject aside, Gad is a god damn emoti-poet.

http://thefwoosh.com/2014/02/toy-fair-2014-mattel-dc-universe-super-powers

So its a re-release and has a cool vintage box, but also one new character.

A bit cheaper, and I would have considered it plus i've already got the Dc Direct Mister Mxyzptlk.

http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/3441044647

Read these!!!  They're.. [sick]....thanking him!  WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!  How the flying FUCK could you thank a guy for $30 repaints, a statue, and an abomination of a Riddler? 

No wonder the line didn't last if this happy horseshit is what some people actually wanted.  Fucking pussy ass losers!   [moon]

 :D

I missed you guys

I don't disagree with everything you're saying, but you do realise the Riddler is an homage to the Super Amigos Riddler, right?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2kjisMm3M9Y/SpOYVZNhDGI/AAAAAAAAJ1g/cEl-o0NZo-4/s400/5-the-riddler-argentina-super-powers-figure.jpg)

According to TG, Mxy was the first figure of the next sub had it gone through.

Just because its "homage" to something, does not make it any less fucking horrible.  If I took a shit, in homage to the shit I took last time I shit, its still a shit. 

OK, just checking. Carry on.

Does anyone know who is Toy Guru?

I know he was featured on Toy Hunter for his Heman collection.So Matty offered him a job.

That's almost poetic

If Mxy was a sub figure and they've been planning on screwing us over along, then really fuck them to hell. Can you imagine how furious we'd all be if we were forced to buy this little turd for the full price if an already overpriced figure?

Based on hints, I think we all kinda knew Mxy was coming, we just assumed it would be as a pack in (as he should have been).

A repaint of the wave 17 Luthor should have taken a spot in this final poop bomb they're releasing

Seriously, I see this Super Powers send off as a big "Fuck You" by Toy Guru and Mattel to the people who have loyally followed this line for over six years.  More if you collected DCSH.  It's simply spite for THEIR fuck ups regarding this line.  Blaming us for it's ultimate failure.  ::)

Just because its "homage" to something, does not make it any less fucking horrible.  If I took a shit, in homage to the shit I took last time I shit, its still a shit. 
[/quote]



Ha!

I caught TG in a chatty mood.......


Hi TG,

Thanks for the TF announcement. Most of the figs aren't my cup of tea, but I will pick up Mxy and Carolina Blue Superman. I am so grateful they re coming. Long time wants.

I've been following the boards, and of course I'm aware of Mattels stated reason for cancelling DCUC. Price was becoming prohibitive, I agree.

I understand how the sub model allowed for lower tool'd figures to compensate for figures requiring higher tooling.

What I still don't get is the continued insistence the sub model is the only way DC figures could be sold online.

I'd be happy to pay sub prices for figures that require minimal tooling. Johnny Quick, Element Lad, Mr. Terrific come quickly to mind.

I remember how the 2 packs didn't do very well. However, we were buying 5+ waves a year at that time. It was far easier to skip some offerings at that point. I think the only online DCUC item that went for sale during "sub times" was the Legion pack. Fairly successful. With no sub or retail, 2 packs would draw much more attention.

For me, the cost was approaching being prohibitive, but mostly because I resented getting figures like Batzarro.

I remain convinced that if you put out demanded (and relatively low tool'd)figures and charged higher prices for day of sales, you'd be surprised the appetite for them.

If you charged what a figure costs for the amount of tooling at the low runs , why is a sub needed? There are those that would pay it. ****, I'm about to dish out $45 for Mxy with shipping and taxes.

There is a way to make this work. Truly there is.

A pre-sale with two tiers for price ($30 if we get so many customers, $25 if we get more) would be very interesting, no?
    
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   posted February 20, 2014 01:45 PM   Hide Post
We know what day of sales are for the past few years as well as sub sales. In the end the numbers just don't add up. We need a committed audience or "full year buy in" to still move forward.

Incidentally, this is no different from any other toy line for any other brand or company for retail too. Retailers are only shown a handful of figures to commit to a full year's worth of product (ie to carry the line for a year). When the DCU line moves online after retailers passed, the commitment for a year of product simply shifted from retailers commiting to carry, to fans directly willing to purchase. That is what happens on a high end low run collector line.

But really, the concept of viewing a small handful of prototypes and commiting to a full year of product is something that goes on with every toy line for every company. Without retailers willing to carry a line, Mattel is willing to continue producing, but only if a full year will be committed to, hence the sub sales. It is the only method that works.

This might be true, but somehow I'm pretty sure companies go out of their way to wow the retailers into buying lines (not with Batzarros and Green Riddlers) and don't tell them that it's their fault and that they should feel bad when they decide not to.

 :-\

The problem is that collectors are too fickle in their character tastes and Mattel refused to recognise that. Instead of saying "OK you only want core characters in their best known costumes, here you go!" they said "Look everybody needs to be equally happy and unhappy or we're cancelling the line!"

Not to mention the MASSIVE discounts retailers get. Retailers have the ability to drive down manufacturers to insanely low prices, which the retailers then upcharge to increase their profits. Retailer also decide what figures get in what assortment, and if the companies don't do as the retailers wish, then the retailer drops the line.

We sure as hell didn't have ANY say is pricing OR selection, so this is a non-truth... AGAIN.

I'm still confused about the Matty website stuff like the Legion and 2-packs selling out....but they weren't successful.

Duh, they didn't have Super Powers in them, so in TG's eyes they weren't any good.   ;)

It's weird as fuck if you ask me. Remember when people we're buying the Sinestro Corps 2-pack as they were good army building bases? Try finding that sucker now.

It's the same as Marvel Legends. I don't understand why Hasblo doesn't do another run of the Hand Ninja, SHIELD 2-packs? Those things sell for a crapton on ebay.

I gave up trying to figure out mass retail toy companies a while back, really.   ;D

I think there is always the impression that there is a huge market for high cost second hand figures but the reality is the base of people who need them and drive the prices so high is extremely small and plenty would pass at a reasonable price.

This was the best explanation ever given for the set up of the sub. Might have cleared things up if mentioned when it mattered, but I doubt it would have made a difference.

Can you even imagine the SHIT STORM of hate? Oh my god, we as a collective internet community would have absolutely went berserk at being forced to pay full price for a pack in. There's always the chance it would have in fact been a pack in with light blue Supes, which while it would have still generated some repaint complaints would have overall been okay I think, but on it's own? TG wouldn't be safe.

Superboy hasn't officially gone up for sale yet, right?

Next month I think.

Thanks Gard. People talk about getting figures early but not how they got 'em, and it fucks with my internal calendar.

I can't remember the last time I laughed out loud so hard!!!

I'll be over paying for Aquaman compared to the ebay prices, but I will hopefully be getting one. Or two. I love what I have seen of that figure and it was a major want for so long I may indulge in two just in case something is wrong with one of them.

Thanks. I want both, so I appreciate it.

Well all the teeth gnashing about the DCUC maybe selling out in early access was for naught.

Here we are hours after sell time and Hook hand Aquaman is not even "nearly gone".

Everyone is waiting for the Super Powers stuff.

Well I guess people are just over DCUC. Who wants to collect a dying line? The momentum is gone and people move on to current and exciting things. I was more worried about the Total Justice Green Lantern Corps since people have been embracing that line and had talked about getting multiples. Between that and the possibility of me being on the road all day I asked a friend to order them for me during Early Access.

Nice. I regret missing them so this is tempting.

"Buy us! Buuuuuy Ussss!"  ;D
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i332/dwcrabbe/WatchmenGroup-Front.jpg)

my worry is damion is at the end of the year so might not be in full production yet, aquaman not selling might mean son of the bats numbers are cut drastically and so some folk might miss out (im assuming he is the one most are after )

I can't afford Aquaman at the moment. Though I want him.

Maybe if some of the crap I listed on ebay sells...

I was in Toy Traders the other day (local toy shop. Google it- it's fantastic) and saw all 6 Watchmen figs clearanced for 19.99 each including all the packaging.

When I was there I saw the total heroes figs in person for the first time and somehow they look even worse in hand than in pics. No chance of me getting any of them.

Fish, do I recall you being in BC? If so, Toy Traders is a good optioon for you getting these.

Would someone be able to purchase an Aquaman for me and I can pay them in two weeks?

I owe the Taxman...

Two word apply for this Aquaman for me.  Cyber Monday.

Gotta have 'im but now is a really bad time...

I bet JSay bought an armload of 'em.  Fuck.  I said Beetlejuice. ;D

I purchased an Aquaman during the first 10 mins of Early Access.

I paid Fast Shipping (as it's the only tracked option).

It came to over $60 (!!!) Australian - I know, I know...

And the order is still "In Process" 6 days later.

When you paid for fast shipping, did you remember to pay for fast processing as well?  That's $10 extra

Man. I wish I had the loot to scoop up Aquaman and the Watchmen. if they're still on by Friday when I get paid from my second job I will get Comedian, Rorschach, and Aquaman. Hook Hand is the only must have though.

And yeah, Damien is the one I am really worried about too. He could be tough to get. There may be a few other Damien figures between now and then to sate demand though.

I completely forgot that "Hook-hand" Aquaman was on sale from Matty Collector earlier this week.  Glad there was still some available when I remembered a few minutes ago.

 :D

....and if you ask for someone competent at Digital River to process that order, well, you'll wake up in a bath of ice with something missing.

Choked down the 33 bucks for Aquaman. Feel bad for you guys who have international shipping.

Wish I had the money to buy the Watchmen too. Or even just Comedian and Rorschach as the shipping would have been a bit more tolorable and I want those figures but it's just not meant to be right now.

Aquaman Showing 'almost gone'. Sure, not a same day sell out, but it did sell.

Got my Hook Aquaman for One dollar.

How did you manage that?

I said if something on ebay sold, I'd be able to buy one. I sold an item I only purchased for a dollar, and purchased Aquaman.

"So what I told you was true....from a certain point of view."

(http://afcmin.org/ateam/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ben-kenobi-ghost2.gif)

I fuckin' hate Star Wars quotes.  [gah] [thud] ;)

[mwaha]  Shit.  That was funny.  Plus 1, Derek!

What's the update?

Finally shipped out 7 days after the order was placed.

Such crap service.

And I get to go through it again for Ice, The Super Powers and Robin. Jusft release them together FFS.

And Levere gets a big +1 for making me laugh.

Anyone actually paying $30 each for that Supercrap deserves the hassle.  Just sayin

your logic is flawless. Premium pricing should always equate to shitty service.[rock]

I'll never buy a Lamborghini then because it'll come with a kick in the nuts.

A KICK IN THE NUTS IZ WUT U DESRV 4 BUYIN STUFF YOU LIKE WITH MONEY YOU HAVE!

Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to stop by and offer such invaluable input.

I laughed out loud at that.

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Alright, I want you to explain to me why ANY of these are worth $30.  Forget the fact that they're based off a show from 500 years ago that 10 people still care about....I'm talking value.  VALUE!  They are fucking REPAINTS!  And whats most ridiculous....they're not even GOOD REPAINTS!!!!!   [mwaha] [mwaha] [mwaha]  Does that really look like SP Kalibak to you?  No...it doesn't.  It that other multi shaded green figure the Riddler or Green Lantern?  I guess we'll never know.  And I know when I think Superman...I think red and gold.   Very iconic color scheme. 

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQD-IRl4TaXu4SZv-481botjKZd13Yi7798T9oWQi0qA7tOfmMO)

This is the best one.  A little teeny tiny hunk of unarticulated plastic.....$30.   [applause]  This is a blatant rip off that some people are actually excited about!  A pack in for full price!  FANFUCKINGTASTIC!

(http://www.actionfigurefury.com/wp-content/uploads/mattel-toy-fair-2014-dc-universe-super-powers.png)

And then we come to bunch that someone who has never touched paint, or customized a figure in their life could do for about $5 each. 

Any of you that actually buy these are enabling Mattel to give us more CRAP!  Unfortunately, that was all the sub was for the past two years......way too much money up front for sub par figures.  We got NOTHING in the two sub years where I thought "they could not have done any better than that on this figure".  NONE!  And what we were they?  $25?  I cannot believe anyone is going to give them $5 more per figure for a REPAINT!  No tooling....no sculpting....just paint!  Once these sell well, I can't WAIT to see how they rip us off next. 

You guys have NOTHING here.  You cannot intelligently defend them.  Go ahead and try. 

I'll most likely buy Superman Blue and Gold.  And I'll be damned happy to!*



*Probably

As a Universe builder, Mxy is the only one I care about. And no, I won't be getting it off Matty.

If you think Jersey vents here, try being an owl.  :D

Thank you Jersey for posting those pics! I was considering doing it last night and didn't want to waste the space in my Photobucket :)

Yes I'm getting these and no they aren't worth it. I do however want the majority of them, and have a standing order on one of each from someone who collects every single figure regardless of price. Ordering two or more plus getting a few dollars for my efforts makes them worth my while.

Kalibak - do not want. He's getting sold and even if I only get $10 for him it's fine.

Gold Superman - yes I want this one. I've always thought the planned gold Super Powers figure was a dumb idea because no one would buy him. Over the years though I've seen kids go nuts for any color Superman or Batman. And I like variants of those two.

Riddler, or more properly Acertijo - probably one of Mattel's biggest mistakes. This goes beyond being a weird homage, it's just a an expensive joke. I can only hope that they will underproduce these to the extent that the rarity will make them actually valuable.

Mxyzptlk - we all need to be on the lookout for this one to show up cheap and help each other out ;)

Carolina Blue Superman - factory paint beats my paint any day. And it's a Superman variant. I want it.

Wonder Woman - same as above paintwise. Don't really need her ... but I need the Kalibak part ... we'll see

Batman - again, variant.

As for enabling ... the line is over. No sub because people couldn't deal with supporting the entire line instead of just their personal favorites. Oh well, I don't get the Legionnaires that were planned for next year. At least I'll get a few more fun figures to give myself a laugh.

I've actually been pretty nice since we moved over here Hyp.  Not in THIS thread, but just about all others.  You still don't have to like me or anything, but at least get your facts straight.

In reply to the rest of the above posts....as long as we can all agree they are not even CLOSE to worth the money, we can be done here.  Buy what makes you happy folks....even if it is a rip off.   ;)

He's been downright corking in the Lego thread. I will vouch for that. But then, we've always gotten on.

I do want. Totally worth 10 bucks to me. PM me if you want to talk turkey.

They are actually casting that Haldler with different color plastics and they nailed the paint job. I don't care about it, but I would argue for it's novelty and how well it was done, it's totally worth the money.

The others? Nope. But fuck it. Are they really worth 20 bucks? Is a Big Mac really worth 5 bucks? Is a pair of sneakers with a logo for a guy who hasn't played basketball in a relevant manner in almost two decades worth almost two bills? No. But fuck it. If you like it and you want it, it's there to buy.

Arguing about what this does for what Matty will make in the future is pointless because they're done with DC figs we care about anyway.

I will buy a Superman, Batman, Mr. M, and Wonder Woman.

I don't give two shits about that Haldler but I may have to buy it because it's kind of hilarious. Waiting to see it on the card to know for sure.

They'll have to paint the hair black to get it completely right ;)  I just think it's a pointless figure. Kalibak in brown is at least something people have asked for. If anyone asked for Acertijo even as a joke I'm sure it was in the $6.99 days. I'm sure that many more have asked for Capitán Rayo ... that's one I'd have no problem with!


I was thinking ebay with no minimum bid, but we'll see what my financial situation is at the time  :D

I might buy Supes, and Batman.

What is the release schedule for the remaining Signature Series figures?

Well now. Aquaman has finally sold out.

Total Heroes Green Lantern Corps on the other hand is "No Longer Available".

Glad to see Aquaman sell out.

We have Superboy in June. When are the other two released?

No shot it sold out.  Cyber monday folks.....cyber monday. 

If the stick to the others being "Quarterly" it'll be September and December or thereabouts.

Fwoosh just did an Ice review so I'm sure she's next.

I wish that Superboy didn't suck. No way I am paing thirty bucks for that thing. Even if I do like the character.

*Bet I buy it anyway*

I can't wait to drop thirty bucks on Superboy.

I'm not interested in superbly,ice or robin so I can say hook aquaman is the last of my Dcuc collecting.

At least it ended with a good figure for you then. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

it really is a good figure.more attention given to detail then usual.

Glad to hear. Just wish we had gotten a full Morrison Big Seven. Though we did get close.

So, so close!

I wish we had gotten Classic Kyle Rayner, Classic Huntress and Connor Hawke Green Arrow.

But I 'm glad we got what we did.

My Hookquaman arrived today. Great figure, but the action hair puzzles me a bit.

Oh well, Arthur's Morrison Badassery makes up for it. Though I wish the harpoon hand could turn.

Might have to do a team shot of The Morrison League such as it is.

Mullet Superman or Electro Supes?

Mullet.

Though standing next to Aquaman may give him an inferiority complex.

Anybody got a list of everybody who was a part of the Morrison League?

A great idea, but Mattel never did an Aztec, so you're kinda screwed I think...  ::)

Or Zauriel, sadly.

Too true, my friend... You can always use the Total Justice one...  :o

Ah Total Justice...... Loved the sculpts but hated the execution and action stances that didnt allow for logical posing.

He'd be way out of scale, I don't have a loose one, and I prefer the first outfit.

Total Justice should have been Super Powers 2.

Let's see if memory serves:

Big 7
Superman (Mullet/Electric Blue/Electric Red/Clean Cut)
Batman (Black, Black and Gray, or Dark Blue and Gray? - Never could figure it out - Oval shield a must though)
Wonder Woman (Diana)
Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
Flash (Wally West)
Aquaman (Hook)
Martian Manhunter (Classic!)

Later Additions
Aztek
Green Arrow (Connor Hawke)
Wonder Woman (Hippolyta)

Next 7
Oracle
Big Barda
Orion
Zauriel
Plastic Man
Huntress (pre-Jim Lee hoochie outfit)
Steel (crooked hammer, squared-S look)

Debatable
Catwoman (Purple)
Atom (Ray Palmer)
Antaeus (or something like that)
Moon Maiden

http://cosmicteams.com/jla/jlafaq02.html#field

I think I'd toss in Tomorrow Woman and Hourman III.  The DCD versions are at least somewhat compatible with DCUC.

I was really hoping HOURMAN would show up in the sub.   :(

Robot Hourman looked cool. I have the DCD one. Might put it in the team pic, not sure.

Ah, can't believe I forgot Tomorrow Woman.  Did Hourman III actually join the JLA as a recurring member?

I think so, for a little while, but deffinitely a member...

I had to look it up.  [think]

Yeah it should have been.  I kind of considered the JL/JLU series to take that place until they started doing far too many weird costume variants.

JLU was actually Secret Wars II.

You go to hell!

No, think about it.

Secret Wars reused body bucks and relied on deco to make up the difference.

Secret Wars had 5 poa

Both were made by Mattel. It makes a stronger case than any other.

Secret Wars had vehicles and playsets.  JLU had bump-n-go cycles and nothing else (and it breaks my heart).

Super Powers was Kenner's Secret Wars.

The Javelin and Watchtower don't count?

Thought those came before the line switched to JLU.  Maybe I'm incorrect.  Both good ones, though.

I consider one a continuation of the other much like Batman to DCSH to DCUC to Signature Series

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/afis-9th-anniversary-scoop-week-day-5-mattels-dcucdcsc-super-powers-card-proof/

Gives a new perspective to the entire line.  Looks to be one long excuse to do Super Powers.

The card looks great, appropriate for most of those figures. This is exactly what I thought they should have done years ago as a store exclusive, Super Powers figures in Super Powers packaging so that people who liked that line could have those decos in nostalgia packaging. They probably could have gotten an era-appropriate Batmobile to retail that way too.

That would have gotten me excited.

Seconded.

I came across the Marvel Legends SpiderMan 2 action figure today on the pegs.

The BAF is some kind of steroided up Green Goblin. It looks like it could be an excellent base for a "unleashed" Doomsday figure for you customizer types.

On ebay now.  Almost here..

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s546/Kal_zor/Batman_zpsfb646e03.jpg) (http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Kal_zor/media/Batman_zpsfb646e03.jpg.html)

I would have loved these in 6" scale! The tiny figures do nothing for me though :)

Yeah, it's a rehashed Hulk figure.

Marketing geniuses! All of them!

Not much confidance in Cyborg at retail I guess, though I guess all the extras here could be SDCC exclusive and eventually they will release a bare bones version at retail.

And that Batmobile is surprising. Lots of features and pretty pricey for an exclusive.

I assume Batmobile is for the 4" figures?

So many Cyborg figures.

Yeah, that Batmobile is for the 4" line. I don't hate the 4" line, the Bane and Mr. Freeze I have are great little toys. this Batmobile is really nice, that price though.....too much for me right now.

(http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r735/Mesozoic25/20140509_140801_zps7901fdf7.jpg)

I think Kenner did better Keaton sculpts than that.   [mwaha]

Yeah I picked those up with Zod today as well.  The unmasked Keaton is horrendous.
And Zod looks more like Jack O'Halloran

Oh dear! That just didn't work did it.

People are buying them, that's all Mattel cares about!

It's so great that this man was able to fulfill most of his dreams using our money.

It really warms my cold, tiny heart a little bit. But there's no need to thank us Scott Nigh... Nichl... Nighlichjj (or whatever you spell it), and no reason to do it either.

After all, it was us in our selfishness and greed that prevented the line for carrying on and kept you from all your other dreams, like some more cool repaints, or toys based on the 1997 Justice League series pilot, or whatever other crap you like. 

 [banghead]

Just as tone deaf as ever...

So Scott started collecting DC Comics with the Death of Superman bandwagon huh?

I hate Scott so much.
Shame that I kind of dig the box, though.

I wonder if he's disappointed that the skin-tight, vein-showing prison outfit on the figure doesn't match the baggy one from his first comic :)

I'm happy with the figure other than the size. It's HUGE. Still buying it though. Doomsday has been shown at a bunch of different heights and I always like Superman villains big. Hope we get the unleashed one someday but I'd have chose this out of the two simply because it hasn't been done.

I would have bought as part of the sub -- but it's never been a figure I wanted, so whatever. And Thanks Scott for making one lone female Legionnaire -- and a shitty version to boot. But I'm not bitter.  [tap]

Yeah, it
Same here.  There's a part of me that thinks "Aw, that's really nice"

But at the same time I think of how much better it would have been if this were the SDCC exclusive and the version that everyone (except Scooter) actually wanted was on Matty.  Or better yet, if it was available as a CNC at retail as part of an entire wave.

Between this and Hordak, I'm pretty happy that I don't need to spend money on Matty after SDCC, end of Summer is always my toughest time of the year, financially.  Of course Hasbro had to go and F that up by actually making an ML exclusive that I want.

That Super Powers Superman looks nice though.  It will be nice to finally get the Superman we should have had since the beginning of the fucking line.

Ordered Ice today.  Hated paying so much for her (I can ship the same figure to someone else in the US through Priority Mail for $3 less), but I think she's the last DCUC I order from them, so that eases the pain somewhat.

I like how it's the one we've all be waiting for.....delivered in a way that means most of us won't be able to get it.

Cunts.

I feel so bad. A friend of mine ordered Ice for me during early access and it took him so long he was too late for the Baby Skeletor he wanted. And Ice is still available :(

Hasn't Ice been available on eBay from China for months?

I never saw one with her ice accessory.

Ah, OK

Ordered Ice, and picked up the Total Heroes Black Manta  - for research purposes.....

To research how he looks beside Total Heroes Aquaman?  ;) I'm not judging. I own TH Aquaman too.  :D

For the podcast, man. I have do my due diligence. ;)

Just like Nu, I can't bring myself to give them money for this crapola. It only encourages them.

I find it really strange that Total Heroes John Stewart, Black Manta and Cyborg are all non-retail exclusives. Yes, DCUC Cyborg was a failure at retail but John Stewart and Black Manta sold fairly well.

DCUC Cyborg was a failure? If that's true, it's no wonder we didn't see team characters make it to the shelves outside of the Justice League (and Super Friends  [banghead])

It's in Geoff Johns' contract.

There's also the Artfx statue, and the Kai arts variant thing.

Completely forgot about Ice. She still available from China? No way I'm paying that much for such a terrible figure.

60's 6" bat mobile is at big w ! 88 now, 75 during the toy sale next week

Just found this at Target
(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s546/Kal_zor/100_2726_zps2659c3f4.jpg) (http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Kal_zor/media/100_2726_zps2659c3f4.jpg.html)

What's the verdict?

Shoddy paint, sculpt could use work and is a definite step down from the prototype, needs the hell out of some bicep swivel and a better ball-joint head.  Overall, I still love it.

Perfect review!

I saw the Keaton Batman and Devito Penguin. Batman is passable, but anybody who has a collection of Kenner Batman Returns figures needs to ditch the Super Powers Repaint and replace it ASAP.

I'm not hearing a lot of people say it's worth $75.

I really like the idea of it, but when I had it in my hands I couldn't buy it. I didn't realise that the doors don't even open.

I think that Batmobile is a great prop. It's incredibly detailed and the paint is near-perfect. It does however feel very cheap in-hand. As a toy, the 2003 Batmobile is much better.

It's one of the few toys I just can't open so I really can't say how good it is in hand. I'm happy I got it though. Love the car!

Same. Had it in my hands, couldn't pull the trigger.

I had bought it when it was 100 bucks , I still like it and it is a good prop

my 60's Batman...


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/SilverAgeBatman5.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/SilverAgeBatman5.jpg.html)


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/SilverAgeBatman1.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/SilverAgeBatman1.jpg.html)


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/66Batmobile2_zps545336bc.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/66Batmobile2_zps545336bc.jpg.html)


What's Batman without Robin?


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/Robin60s.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/Robin60s.jpg.html)


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/Robin60s3.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/Robin60s3.jpg.html)


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/78t-topps/Dynamicduo60s.jpg) (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/78t-topps/media/Dynamicduo60s.jpg.html)


of course now I have to build the Batcave  ;) and add some lights and maybe even sound to the Batmobile......ah the life of a customizer :)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b121/levere/12_Inch_DC_Figures__scaled_800.jpg)

Yeah, MATTEL will sell TONS of those!  [cuckoo]

SV

That Joker and Batman aren't DCnU, are they?

12" with no elbow and knee articulation? Ridiculous.

But it's a new form factor.

I don't like 12" figures and I'm not a fan of Total Heroes articulation, so no. Would kids like these?

Kids with bad taste.

As a kid these would have been fun....as an adult collector, not so much.

I guess that's why we have Sideshow and Hot Toys.

So close to being done with this hobby.

I didn't notice the shiny colors when I looked at this on my phone, wow those are crappy. Wonder if they smell toxic.

It kind of looks like they have elbow articulation, but does it really even matter?  Pretty damned craptacular.

I guess I can't really complain...DCD and DCUC have given me a shit ton of characters I wanted over the years, so I guess I have to expect a lot of garbage to come along with it.  Still....it's disappointing to see our hobby turn into explosive diarrhea that glows and melts through stuff.

Isn't this just DC's equivalent of:

(http://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/imageid-1738285.jpg)

I'm not a fan, but the boy has a few.

I have a bunch of money that Mattel has no idea how to take from me.

Wow - two different shades of green on the one limb - it could be a Mattel product.

I kind of like the Superman, but it'll depend on the price point.

If those DC figs do have some articulation (more than the titans) then I could see them being good custom bases for oversized characters.

That's because you're in the DC Universe.

For me it'd be The Stranger, Eternity, The Living Tribunal, Goliath (T'bolts), etc, etc.

Good ol' Matty, still comin' through in the clutch:

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/darthfoley/batgirl66_zps76eb1e86.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/darthfoley/3pack1_zps09588e76.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/darthfoley/3pack_zpsc277ba47.jpg)

Here's your '66 Batgirl.  You don't mind paying 50 bucks for her, right?

 ;D

Urgh

Good ol' Mattel. Finger on the pulse  :D

I'd rather have batgirl with her bat cycle for fifty bucks then two figures I already have .reminds me of Hasbro with their Han Greedos set.Idjits.

So fucking glad I never bought Batman & Robin for my Batmobile!  ;D

Hrrrrm.

So are we getting a single card Robin?

Might be the wrong place to ask but is the supergirl nu52 figure out yet? and I suppose if not do we know when?

If you mean the DC Collectables one, then I don't believe so.