Mighty Marvel Comics discussion

[fishmilkshake]

I was still enjoying Conan the Slayer right up until the end.

I feel sorry for Dark Horse. First Star Wars, now Conan.

[fishmilkshake]

Whatever Marvel is paying Garth Ennis to write "Punisher: The Platoon", they need to double it and have him write rotating Punisher mini-series indefinitely. It's fucking awesome!

[Gardner Grayle]

https://www.newsarama.com/38699-marvel-getting-a-fresh-start-in-may-2018-in-line-wide-change.html

So what's everyone think of another "Fresh Start"?  They don't even seem to know if the legacy number will hold up. 

[Chooch]

Not much detail yet.

[kcekada]

Yeah,  it's just a concept at this point. Obviously, something had to be done, but how the execution is what matters --- and we'll get more detail in drips and drabs.

[kcekada]

So, some details.

New Black Panther #!. Same writer (his stuff kinda bored me -- too political, but it's critically acclaimed). Danial Acuna on art.  May try it.

https://www.cbr.com/black-panther-marvel-comics-relaunch/

[Chooch]

Dribbling out the details may not have the impact they want.  Unless the talent attached to an individual announcement is huge I think they'd be better off with announcing it all at once.

[kcekada]

This is pretty big -- Jason Aaron and Ed McG on Avengers -- with a new, pared down line up. https://www.newsarama.com/38753-fcbd-avengers-1-cover-revealed.html

Not as big -- Quicsilver gets a 5-issue limited series (guess they don't call em mini-series these days). But this probably isn't tied into Fresh Start.

[fishmilkshake]

So, some details.

New Black Panther #!. Same writer (his stuff kinda bored me -- too political, but it's critically acclaimed). Danial Acuna on art.  May try it.

https://www.cbr.com/black-panther-marvel-comics-relaunch/

Critically acclaimed or not, Coates as a writer is boring as fuck. I only read the title for Stelfreeze's art. Not a fan of Acuna so easy pass.

Waid was doing good stuff on Avengers, I just don't think Marvel new how to handle the titles. The unfamiliar line-ups were annoying. I'm a fan of Aaron's so I'm in....even when McGuinness leaves after the fourth issue.

I've recently been reading Avengers from #1 (the real #1) and there's a comment from Stan in one of the letter's pages that the reason Cap, Thor and Iron Man have left the team is because they get enough exposure in their other titles. But there's a reason they're popular, so removing them is a stupid move. You need the big three and then you can rotate the rest of the team on an adventure by adventure basis.

[Chooch]

I don't know that you always need all of the big three.  You need one or two to anchor things, but the fun from Avengers stories for me has always come from the b and c-stringers that the writers can actually do something with.

You do need to periodically bring the classics back together to start the cycle anew though.

[fishmilkshake]

I don't know that you always need all of the big three.  You need one or two to anchor things, but the fun from Avengers stories for me has always come from the b and c-stringers that the writers can actually do something with.

You do need to periodically bring the classics back together to start the cycle anew though.

...in a heavily promoted #1 issue with top notch creators who last six issues.

[Gardner Grayle]

As a kid/teen/college student, I was all about Marvel.  Avengers was my favorite title.  Although Kamandi was the first book I ever "collected".  Something shifted in me when the New Teen Titans came out.  By the time CoIE was over, I'd jumped from Marvel to DC.  But even after that, I still bought and read the Avengers eagerly.  For another five years or so.  My favorite lineups were always when the big three took a backseat.  However, that's not why most people buy the Avengers.  And by extension, the Justice League. 

Some writers, like Morrison, have figured out a way to make the threats look credible for the heavy hitters.  His is still my all time favorite JLA run.  Other writers, like Bendis, have to weaken the team to make the bad guys threatening.  Never much cared for that approach.       

[kcekada]

So, some details.

New Black Panther #!. Same writer (his stuff kinda bored me -- too political, but it's critically acclaimed). Danial Acuna on art.  May try it.

https://www.cbr.com/black-panther-marvel-comics-relaunch/

Critically acclaimed or not, Coates as a writer is boring as fuck. I only read the title for Stelfreeze's art. Not a fan of Acuna so easy pass.

Waid was doing good stuff on Avengers, I just don't think Marvel new how to handle the titles. The unfamiliar line-ups were annoying. I'm a fan of Aaron's so I'm in....even when McGuinness leaves after the fourth issue.

I've recently been reading Avengers from #1 (the real #1) and there's a comment from Stan in one of the letter's pages that the reason Cap, Thor and Iron Man have left the team is because they get enough exposure in their other titles. But there's a reason they're popular, so removing them is a stupid move. You need the big three and then you can rotate the rest of the team on an adventure by adventure basis.

I don't think you need all three, all the time. Two of the three full-time -- rotating the third in and out as needed. Then throw in about three second-tier classic members. Tht leaves room for two newbs -- whom never seem to work out long term. I really have a difficult time with Rogue as an Avenger -- she belongs with the X-Men.

[fishmilkshake]

Thrawn is awesome (two issues so far). As are all the Star Wars book s from Marvel

[Gardner Grayle]

Shhhh.  It’s a secret but it seems like the Fantastic Four is returning.